Rookie needs gyno insights

[DataDude]

Hey All,

I'm new to AAS, to the point where I'd hardly call myself a "user". Any advice you can give I would very much appreciate. I'm only 2 weeks into taking Test, but have experienced some unusual symptoms that make me wonder if I'm less prepared than I originally felt coming into this. I planned on taking 500mg weekly of Test-E (split into two 250mg shots). I read that it takes a few weeks for Test-E to build up in your system, which is why I was surprised when a few days after my first pin my nipples became hyper sensitive (like a burning sensation) accompanied by unusual tenderness in the side of my pec; no visible changes, lumps, swelling, or puffiness. This freaked me out so I reached out to users on various forums and got conflicting advice. I ended up cutting my Test-E dose to 200mg per week and jumped straight onto Nolvadex (20mg a day) and Arimidex (0.25mg a day). Someone with a lot of experience suggested I save the Arimidex until I really need it or am running higher Test doses. I followed this advice and have been off Arimidex for 3 days now, and only taking Nolvadex every day still. My nipples are still a little sensitive, but mostly my symptoms have faded. If it matters: I'm in my mid-30's, between 12-15% BF, long-time disciplined diet and exercise regimen. Labs before I started pinning were normal with Test levels in the 600's. I just got new bloodwork 2 days ago as a precaution to see if anything changed as a result of those few injections (waiting on results).

My question is: What the heck happened that would cause my nipples to feel like they were burning? It happened after a single pin (250mg) of Test-E and was definitely not a mental thing. If this is an indication of sensitivity to Test, should I be supplementing another compound with anti-estrogenic properties like Proviron (instead of Nolva)? Should I "cruise" on this lower Test dose (~200mg/week) until I better understand what my body is doing? Should I stop taking Nolvadex? Should I get back on the Arimidex? Should I stop being a bitch and resume my full planned dose? Maybe 500mg is too much for a first-timer? Thank you all so much for your help!

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Hey All,

I'm new to AAS, to the point where I'd hardly call myself a "user". Any advice you can give I would very much appreciate. I'm only 2 weeks into taking Test, but have experienced some unusual symptoms that make me wonder if I'm less prepared than I originally felt coming into this. I planned on taking 500mg weekly of Test-E (split into two 250mg shots). I read that it takes a few weeks for Test-E to build up in your system, which is why I was surprised when a few days after my first pin my nipples became hyper sensitive (like a burning sensation) accompanied by unusual tenderness in the side of my pec; no visible changes, lumps, swelling, or puffiness. This freaked me out so I reached out to users on various forums and got conflicting advice. I ended up cutting my Test-E dose to 200mg per week and jumped straight onto Nolvadex (20mg a day) and Arimidex (0.25mg a day). Someone with a lot of experience suggested I save the Arimidex until I really need it or am running higher Test doses. I followed this advice and have been off Arimidex for 3 days now, and only taking Nolvadex every day still. My nipples are still a little sensitive, but mostly my symptoms have faded. If it matters: I'm in my mid-30's, between 12-15% BF, long-time disciplined diet and exercise regimen. Labs before I started pinning were normal with Test levels in the 600's. I just got new bloodwork 2 days ago as a precaution to see if anything changed as a result of those few injections (waiting on results).

My question is: What the heck happened that would cause my nipples to feel like they were burning? It happened after a single pin (250mg) of Test-E and was definitely not a mental thing. If this is an indication of sensitivity to Test, should I be supplementing another compound with anti-estrogenic properties like Proviron (instead of Nolva)? Should I "cruise" on this lower Test dose (~200mg/week) until I better understand what my body is doing? Should I stop taking Nolvadex? Should I get back on the Arimidex? Should I stop being a bitch and resume my full planned dose? Maybe 500mg is too much for a first-timer? Thank you all so much for your help!

Welcome to EVO!

What happened? you got the first symptoms of gynecomastia (bitch tits), it happens to guys at different times. Some are more sensitive to estrogen, some are less, you might the the one more sensitive to estrogen. I would suggest you do the following, go back on your cycle but use aromasin instead of arimidex, it's a better quality aromatase inhibitor. Use 12.5mgs aromasin ED with 20mgs novladex ED and 500mgs of testosterone enanthate, add ostazol preworkout to natural combat estrogen and get better pumps energy, this way you're doing any-gyno with aromasin/nolvadex and herbals at the same time. Overall you shouldn't have bad gyno from 500mgs of test in general and if you do that means your AI is not good quality, make sure to get good quality aromasin and nolvadex.

 

[stevesmi]

1. post up the blood results that will help
2. you can post up pictures of the nipple
3. worst case go see a doctor and have him look at it

 

[DataDude]

Welcome to EVO!

What happened? you got the first symptoms of gynecomastia (bitch tits), it happens to guys at different times. Some are more sensitive to estrogen, some are less, you might the the one more sensitive to estrogen. I would suggest you do the following, go back on your cycle but use aromasin instead of arimidex, it's a better quality aromatase inhibitor. Use 12.5mgs aromasin ED with 20mgs novladex ED and 500mgs of testosterone enanthate, add ostazol preworkout to natural combat estrogen and get better pumps energy, this way you're doing any-gyno with aromasin/nolvadex and herbals at the same time. Overall you shouldn't have bad gyno from 500mgs of test in general and if you do that means your AI is not good quality, make sure to get good quality aromasin and nolvadex.

Hey Eddie, I really appreciate the response man. It's awesome to be able to come on here and hear from guys with a lot of experience. I'm going to order some Aromasin now, I imagine it'll be a couple weeks before it gets to me. Do you think it's best I cruise on a minimal Test dose until I have Aromasin? Or should I adjust my Arimidex dose in the meantime? I've read Arimidex can crash your E2 (which I'd prefer over growing tits). 12.5mg Aromasin would be 1/2 tablet, but I know Aromasin uses a different mechanism to control estrogen than Arimidex. I'm still not seeing any visual changes to my nipples, so I'm grateful for that. I'm waiting on my doctor to call back with lab results, so hopefully that will give more info too. My Nolvadex and Arimidex are from Geneza, which I've heard is an OK lab. I'm assuming they at least partially work as my symptoms have improved while on them.

 

[Mobster]

So mistake No1 was waiting until you had symptoms. I ALWAYS use an AI from day 1

 

[BodyMonster34]

So mistake No1 was waiting until you had symptoms. I ALWAYS use an AI from day 1

bro that true. happened to me one time. never do that again

 

[JasonPriest]

I would be using an AI from the first shot and you need bloods asap to see what is going on

 

[DataDude]

I would be using an AI from the first shot and you need bloods asap to see what is going on

Thank you so much for the reply. Definitely will do this going forward. My priority should be safety. I did get my blood drawn a week after symptoms started, and am expecting my doctor to call me today with results. Either way, I ordered some Aromasin last night. I'm back on Arimidex .25mg ED until my Aromasin gets here. If I continue to experience the nipple sensitivity (the pec tenderness and burning sensations are way better since I started Nolva and Arimidex), I will up the dose to .5mg of Arimidex. Fortunately, I'm not even 3 weeks in so I'm hopeful I can get this under control and learn a valuable lesson without permanent damage. Other than the tenderness/sensitivity, there are no visual changes to my nipples.

 

[MONSTRO]

Hey All,

I'm new to AAS, to the point where I'd hardly call myself a "user". Any advice you can give I would very much appreciate. I'm only 2 weeks into taking Test, but have experienced some unusual symptoms that make me wonder if I'm less prepared than I originally felt coming into this. I planned on taking 500mg weekly of Test-E (split into two 250mg shots). I read that it takes a few weeks for Test-E to build up in your system, which is why I was surprised when a few days after my first pin my nipples became hyper sensitive (like a burning sensation) accompanied by unusual tenderness in the side of my pec; no visible changes, lumps, swelling, or puffiness. This freaked me out so I reached out to users on various forums and got conflicting advice. I ended up cutting my Test-E dose to 200mg per week and jumped straight onto Nolvadex (20mg a day) and Arimidex (0.25mg a day). Someone with a lot of experience suggested I save the Arimidex until I really need it or am running higher Test doses. I followed this advice and have been off Arimidex for 3 days now, and only taking Nolvadex every day still. My nipples are still a little sensitive, but mostly my symptoms have faded. If it matters: I'm in my mid-30's, between 12-15% BF, long-time disciplined diet and exercise regimen. Labs before I started pinning were normal with Test levels in the 600's. I just got new bloodwork 2 days ago as a precaution to see if anything changed as a result of those few injections (waiting on results).

My question is: What the heck happened that would cause my nipples to feel like they were burning? It happened after a single pin (250mg) of Test-E and was definitely not a mental thing. If this is an indication of sensitivity to Test, should I be supplementing another compound with anti-estrogenic properties like Proviron (instead of Nolva)? Should I "cruise" on this lower Test dose (~200mg/week) until I better understand what my body is doing? Should I stop taking Nolvadex? Should I get back on the Arimidex? Should I stop being a bitch and resume my full planned dose? Maybe 500mg is too much for a first-timer? Thank you all so much for your help!

Welcome brother to this great forum . When we are sensitive to estrogen we should use some AI , i always go with Aromasin and to fight gyno i use tamoxifen .

 

[RoySimpson]

You gotta make sure to get bloodwork done and run AI from the beginning.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

On the positive side, you learned that you are super estrogen sensitive. This is important as you go forward. What I would do next time is just run aromasin or arimidex from the first day of your cycle. It will take time to dial in what dose works for you but you know you cannot wait.

 

[DataDude]

On the positive side, you learned that you are super estrogen sensitive. This is important as you go forward. What I would do next time is just run aromasin or arimidex from the first day of your cycle. It will take time to dial in what dose works for you but you know you cannot wait.

Thanks for the response. You're right. I'm glad I had SERM and AI on hand. Looking forward to learning from this community/forum.