Sarms Dosage/ With Testosterone During Cycle.

[Sdem]

I’m 38 in decent shape less than 6% body fat with lean muscle (around 42” chest) I’ve never cycled anything other than creatine before and I’m looking for a boost in my physique and training.

I’m new to Sarms and want to start on a light cycle. I started taking 20mg rad140 and 20mg mk677 split over 2 doses in the morning and early evening. Along with this I was also taking a Testosterone supplement with Turkestrone 400mg, Beta-ecdysterone 180mg, Androst-3,5-diene-7,17-dione 50mg also split over two doses. This gave me side effects, light nausea, headache and poor sleep so I halved the dose only taking the morning helping. This stopped the side effects. After about a week I went back to original dose and the side effects started again. From what I’ve read the sleep problems are from the Rad140 so would it be wise to increase the MK677 to 20mg and keep the Rad140 at 10mg? I realise this is probably trial and error…my main question is re. testosterone. Do I need to take this alongside the sarms? Is it helpful. Or should I wait and do PCT? If I carry on with the test and Sarms will I need PCT after that? Any advice greatly appreciated!

 

[dylangemelli]

where did you get your sarms? you should not be getting sleep issues with rad...

what is the "testosterone supplement" you are taking and what brand is it? where did you get it? what time of day are you taking everything?

 

[LevButlerov]

I’m 38 in decent shape less than 6% body fat with lean muscle (around 42” chest) I’ve never cycled anything other than creatine before and I’m looking for a boost in my physique and training.

I’m new to Sarms and want to start on a light cycle. I started taking 20mg rad140 and 20mg mk677 split over 2 doses in the morning and early evening. Along with this I was also taking a Testosterone supplement with Turkestrone 400mg, Beta-ecdysterone 180mg, Androst-3,5-diene-7,17-dione 50mg also split over two doses. This gave me side effects, light nausea, headache and poor sleep so I halved the dose only taking the morning helping. This stopped the side effects. After about a week I went back to original dose and the side effects started again. From what I’ve read the sleep problems are from the Rad140 so would it be wise to increase the MK677 to 20mg and keep the Rad140 at 10mg? I realise this is probably trial and error…my main question is re. testosterone. Do I need to take this alongside the sarms? Is it helpful. Or should I wait and do PCT? If I carry on with the test and Sarms will I need PCT after that? Any advice greatly appreciated!

@Sdem welcome to the evolutionary.org family, you are smart to ask about this because you're in a bad situation
you have done something thats giving you a lot of sides going from creatine to sarms and prohormones can lead to problems and more side effects
so what i need to really help you is for you to start a NEW thread with your cycle log journal diet training cycle so we can see what you're doing

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

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[stevesmi]

we get this question a lot and its a great question

The answer is no you never need to use testosterone in any sort of cycle

 

[ceo]

bros I hate pro hormones never like them even back then when you could buy them over the counter
you need to get a log up

 

[ROIDDERS]

make sure that you start a log Journal
this will be the best thing you can do so that we can guide you

 

[chesty]

you are very lean and you don't want to screw things up by making yourself sick like this
I felt like if you had put up a log originally we could have guided you much better away from these toxic compounds

 

[Ulter]

it is too late to turn back the clock but from here we can definitely help you. Get your full died and Training Up and also pictures that would be the best

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

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[e2]

log this one for sure
I would love to see your physique you seem like you are really ripped with a wide chest

 

[2Thick]

I'm going to say on this one that sarms would be fine
go with rAD and MK677 that is fine
might want to add in GW too
log it!

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

stay away from pro hormones there is no telling what they are putting in them these days
for all we know they could be putting dangerous chemicals in them
log your sarms stack

 

[MONSTRO]

i like s23 and GW together
make sure you do a nice Journal would love to see the results

 

[Mobster]

I’m 38 in decent shape less than 6% body fat with lean muscle (around 42” chest) I’ve never cycled anything other than creatine before and I’m looking for a boost in my physique and training.

I’m new to Sarms and want to start on a light cycle. I started taking 20mg rad140 and 20mg mk677 split over 2 doses in the morning and early evening. Along with this I was also taking a Testosterone supplement with Turkestrone 400mg, Beta-ecdysterone 180mg, Androst-3,5-diene-7,17-dione 50mg also split over two doses. This gave me side effects, light nausea, headache and poor sleep so I halved the dose only taking the morning helping. This stopped the side effects. After about a week I went back to original dose and the side effects started again. From what I’ve read the sleep problems are from the Rad140 so would it be wise to increase the MK677 to 20mg and keep the Rad140 at 10mg? I realise this is probably trial and error…my main question is re. testosterone. Do I need to take this alongside the sarms? Is it helpful. Or should I wait and do PCT? If I carry on with the test and Sarms will I need PCT after that? Any advice greatly appreciated!

This is strange

 

[LittleTimeTrouble]

Less than six percent body fat is almost impossible to keep going year round.

 

[Sdem]

where did you get your sarms? you should not be getting sleep issues with rad...

what is the "testosterone supplement" you are taking and what brand is it? where did you get it? what time of day are you taking everything?

They’re by Nordic Labs. Both the the sarms and the test. It’s called ‘test x pro’ and the rad and mk are 10mg each in a combined pill called Final. I’m taking them in the morning with breakfast 1 pill dose of the test as described above and 1 of the rad/mk pills 10mg in total of each. Sleep better now I’ve stopped taking the same dose in the early evening. Is the test necessary? 6% body fat was optimistic to be fair, I’m probably more like 8-10, thanks!

where did you get your sarms? you should not be getting sleep issues with rad...

what is the "testosterone supplement" you are taking and what brand is it? where did you get it? what time of day are you taking everything?

Sarms and test by Nordic labs.

 

[25homes]

I wont run a cycle without test in it but thats me personally

 

[dylangemelli]

They’re by Nordic Labs. Both the the sarms and the test. It’s called ‘test x pro’ and the rad and mk are 10mg each in a combined pill called Final. I’m taking them in the morning with breakfast 1 pill dose of the test as described above and 1 of the rad/mk pills 10mg in total of each. Sleep better now I’ve stopped taking the same dose in the early evening. Is the test necessary? 6% body fat was optimistic to be fair, I’m probably more like 8-10, thanks!

Sarms and test by Nordic labs.

THATS YOUR PROBLEM! NEVER and I MEAN NEVER take a sarm that is an "all in one" and that certainly is not a trusted site for sarms whatsoever... that is why you got side effects that you should never have gotten! FUCK that pisses me off to the highest level!

https://umbrellalabs.is is by far the most trusted and best quality you can find!

 

[RickRock]

Are you sure you're 6%? That's not realistic

 

[ballin2504]

Post a pic up