Should I test myself for allergies before using steroids?

[GoldenPlague]

This whole 'being a pro' as a fix to a persons life is about as common as winning a Million on the lotto. It happens (to the genetic freaks) but it's rare. I've got $50 says you do NOT have those genetics. Heck, based on info you have provided, you don't even have the (currently) the mental fortitude. I'll go so far as to suggest the last few posts border on trolling.

Heck I come under being a pro and I've no pro card. I get paid to do what I do. I represent brands (inc a clothing line) in return for product and so on. Do NOT think winning an event or becoming a pro as a fix for any mental issues. Life doesn't work like that. Changing how you think about stuff is far more of a fix and that starts with YOU

I didn't say I will become exactly pro. I said amateur or pro, meaning I'm ok with amateur level, too.

What about genetics? I have V-shale and a potential for fast muscle growth. When I trained hard naturally, I was seeing results by the day, especially at the biceps area.

 

[GoldenPlague]

and holy moly demanding that other people tell you exactly what doses you need to take at all times and for the length and explain every single compound to you says you havent even bothered to do any work yourself.

100% not ready for steroids regardless of your age.

I need to know the doses. I also want to know how to avoid the side effects related to lowered e2 hormone due to T-bol suppression of natural testosterone and block of aromatization.

If they just tell me what I need to know, I will know how EXACTLY to do the cycle.

 

[stevesmi]

i think people have to remember the OP is east european. its a different culture there and a different world and he had a very different childhood and background.. between that and a language barrier.

and on the flipside golden you are being extremely unrealistic. i get it you think once you are out of there and move to Dubai you will be driving fancy cars and getting women blah blah blah. that is all just marketing in the bodybuilding world. everyone thinks the grass is greener. . it is a huge ruse and you are falling for it. I know people in Dubai and if you aren't making minimum 200K a year you are poor and its all just a party party lifestyle. so if you think you will just bodybuild and be able to make a living there then you are being foolish. you better work for a top notch company and have atleast a masters or you will be living out of your car in dubai

also i appreciate you wanting to learn about this stuff but cmon man. did you take any time to listen to our podcasts or read the articles? its all FREE to do and we answer all of these questions there. you gotta do more to educate yourself then getting frustrated arguing on here with vets about what you think/want vs what is reality

 

[s.gentz]

let's be a little more understanding here

Have you read this madness and his other posts? Many have givin him the answers he is looking for but he keeps asking the same questions over and over. Different culture or not he's 23yo and his maturity level is decreasing with every post.
He is more worried about gyno, a fixable issue than fucking up his hormones for the rest of his life.

 

[stevesmi]

I need to know the doses. I also want to know how to avoid the side effects related to lowered e2 hormone due to T-bol suppression of natural testosterone and block of aromatization.

If they just tell me what I need to know, I will know how EXACTLY to do the cycle.

the articles and podcasts lay all that out. i would spend the next month reading and listening

 

[s.gentz]

What do you mean by "near natural limit"? Testosterone levels don't increase with age, they are stable. The testosterone levels I have at 23 will be likely the same as the levels I will have at 25, and are probably the same as the levels at 22 and 21.

What I mean by natural limit is what you can accomplish naturally before using PED's.

I already answered the questions about my training and diet. Here is the answer: at least 6 sets of 12 or 15 reps, and sufficient amounts of protein per day.

This is not an answer. What is your training split? What exercises do you do and what weight are you moving. Specifically what foods are you eating every day? I can eat pizza all day and get my protien in but it's not gonna help me reach my goals.

As I've mentioned before. Take a look at some of the logs on here. That's what you should be doing. Posting training and diet info so we can see what's going on and then can help you determine the best course.
Everyone that has replied to you is giving you good info but you are not listening.

 

[stevesmi]

Have you read this madness and his other posts? Many have givin him the answers he is looking for but he keeps asking the same questions over and over. Different culture or not he's 23yo and his maturity level is decreasing with every post.
He is more worried about gyno, a fixable issue than fucking up his hormones for the rest of his life.

i actually updated my post after reading this last page lol

 

[GoldenPlague]

i think people have to remember the OP is east european. its a different culture there and a different world and he had a very different childhood and background.. between that and a language barrier. let's be a little more understanding here

If you mean I grew up in poverty, it's not true. I didn't grew up poor and hungry, but I have additional wishes and desires that go beyond basic survival and "enough money to survive".

I want to make it big! I want to be a rich, important person. This will happen one way or another.

 

[stevesmi]

If you mean I grew up in poverty, it's not true. I didn't grew up poor and hungry, but I have additional wishes and desires that go beyond basic survival and "enough money to survive".

I want to make it big! I want to be a rich, important person. This will happen one way or another.

having dreams is good
you can do what you want in life

but also being unrealistic is unfair to yourself.

and this whole Dubai bodybuilder myth is as dumb as 20 years ago when every 21 year old packed their bags and moved to vegas to become the next poker millionaire. 99.9% of them went broke. i watched a friend of mine with a broke mother pack a suitcase of cash and life savings and go to vegas. 2 weeks later he was broke.

reminds me of the whole Tony Huge thing. you realize he PAYS women to sit in hot tubs with him. it is MARKETING, don't fall for it

 

[s.gentz]

reminds me of the whole Tony Huge thing. you realize he PAYS women to sit in hot tubs with him. it is MARKETING, don't fall for it

This is the biggest problem with social media and YouTube. It's all marketing and perception. 90% of the people on there could give 2 shits if you live or die as long as you follow and like them.

 

[GoldenPlague]

having dreams is good
you can do what you want in life

but also being unrealistic is unfair to yourself.

and this whole Dubai bodybuilder myth is as dumb as 20 years ago when every 21 year old packed their bags and moved to vegas to become the next poker millionaire. 99.9% of them went broke. i watched a friend of mine with a broke mother pack a suitcase of cash and life savings and go to vegas. 2 weeks later he was broke.

reminds me of the whole Tony Huge thing. you realize he PAYS women to sit in hot tubs with him. it is MARKETING, don't fall for it

To put it simply, I'm the next Andrew Tate, but much more good-looking.

As for Vegas, most rational people know casinos are made to take money from people, not to give money to people. Investing money improperly means you will lose them. Investing/giving money to slot machines and NFTs, for example, won't make you rich.

On the other hand, I have ALREADY developed my strategies. However, having an unnatural body is among the top requirements for these strategies to work. The 4K camera is already available. Now, I'm waiting for the muscles.

 

[GoldenPlague]

If you mean I grew up in poverty, it's not true. I didn't grew up poor and hungry, but I have additional wishes and desires that go beyond basic survival and "enough money to survive".

I want to make it big! I want to be a rich, important person. This will happen one way or another.

To add some additional context: In modern world and society, being average is no longer a viable option. I don't want to be average. I want to be way above average in means of wealth and fame. I'm gonna make it big in life!

Currently, my financial condition is just fine, but I want to have so much money I can't spent it.

 

[Mobster]

Those pro bodybuilders that have been to Dubai (esp Oxygen Gym) lay it out for you. It was thought that they somehow had access to secret drugs and training protocols. They do not. Truth is they live for 3-6 months like a Monk. They are told when to get up, when to train and what to eat. They are actually nagged about eating (you missed a meal... here's an other... eat eat...). It's gym, rehab and recovery or the apartment. No chasing skirt, no fund days at the beach etc. That's why we saw 20-30lb gains.

Even Larry Wheels, who has now moved to the US (as has Andrew Jacked) worked every damn day. Collabs and editing of videos and working on his product line. NOT sunning his ass or driving 4x4 up and down dunes. Nice gym to train in (the 4 floor Binois) with other pros but that's 2 hours from 16+ WORKING. And he fucked it up at least 2x ($100,000+ on live sex chats).

Meanwhile Yates trained himself and later in his career other pros in a gym in a cellar. Go do a google streetview and you'll see the air vent next to the bins. It literally smelled of garbage until you stopped noticing it. Won the MrO 6x

And the whole grass is greener thing is unbelievably stupid. I've old European and US based BB magazines. Both had ads. The EU based ones. would have ads for 'secrets of the West Coast' and the US 'secrets from Eastern Europe. If what you do now isn't working - CHANGE IT. You do NOT need to fly to the Middle East to do so.

 

[Mobster]

To put it simply, I'm the next Andrew Tate, but much more good-looking.

As for Vegas, most rational people know casinos are made to take money from people, not to give money to people. Investing money improperly means you will lose them. Investing/giving money to slot machines and NFTs, for example, won't make you rich.

On the other hand, I have ALREADY developed my strategies. However, having an unnatural body is among the top requirements for these strategies to work. The 4K camera is already available. Now, I'm waiting for the muscles.

Every post like this is pushing you into troll No1 of all time.

Post a leg workout complete with sets, reps and weights. Include a picture (face blurred) and hold up a bit of paper with golden plague on it in which we can see your quads. Do that inside the next 2 hours to look legit

 

[s.gentz]

Post a leg workout complete with sets, reps and weights. Include a picture (face blurred) and hold up a bit of paper with golden plague on it in which we can see your quads. Do that inside the next 2 hours to look legit

Prob not gonna happen. This is def getting into troll territory now.

 

[Mobster]

Prob not gonna happen. This is def getting into troll territory now.

The whole living in Dubai winning at life... yep

 

[stevesmi]

the grass is greener thing is like the meme i saw a while back. wish i could find it but 1 guy was stuck on a deserted island and was holding up a sign saying "help me get out of here" pointed to the ocean to another guy on on a tiny sailboat with a sign saying "get me on the island" pointed towards the guy on the island.

both think that things would be better in the others shoes when it will be no different.

 

[Mobster]

the grass is greener thing is like the meme i saw a while back. wish i could find it but 1 guy was stuck on a deserted island and was holding up a sign saying "help me get out of here" pointed to the ocean to another guy on on a tiny sailboat with a sign saying "get me on the island" pointed towards the guy on the island.

both think that things would be better in the others shoes when it will be no different.

Back in the day (and what seemed like a deal at the time) an ex (mother of my daughter) and the then current GF both said how they had a grass is greener vibe. At times great (for me) and awful (also for me lol). But deffo made me realize you need to make the most of the here and now

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

I need to get myself on steroids, so I can look better than what's possible naturally. I need to do this in order to build a mature or professional career in bodybuilding so I can solve my body dysmorphia issue, my inferiority complex, and earn popularity, fame, and money, and have a lavish lifestyle, with top models, yachts, private jets, and super cars in Dubai.

This goal will be achieved, even if I have to trade off my HPTA health, resulting in TRT for life.

This goal will be achieved, even if I have to face permanent health consequences.

This goal will be achieved, even if I have to literally learn chemistry, build my own small lab, and make steroids by myself.

This goal will be achieved, no matter what happens.

As I already said, I'm chasing a specific goal, and I'm ready to risk. Only death will stop me.

@GoldenPlague so get on a cycle and start your LOG journal
why havent you started your log?

 

[Mobster]

@GoldenPlague so get on a cycle and start your LOG journal
why havent you started your log?

He's changing his mind... lol