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So I made a decision: I will use primobolan for a first cycle

Where are you get fibrosis as an issue from?
When you rip off the muscle during injection, it will either fully heal or partially heal. When many not full but partial headings happen, this will he fibrosis.

Fibrosis is like a scar - it replaces muscle with just connective tissue that isn't muscle and has no muscle fibers.

In skin, fibrosis (scars) are not skin.
I've been very clear in one of the replies above regarding the benefits of my ensuring others who are young and might read this. You be clear on a point - you might ask and question, and if lucky get a reply, but you do not OWN the answer. It serves a further purpose when others read it.

Example: I have a log. I get a few replies. It has been read 1000's of times. The same works for those who research an answer vs just asking. Not everyone ignores good advice
This answer isn't related to what I said.

Here is what I said:
As for the HPTA, if sterility and TRT for life are the worst side effects that can happen, keep in mind I have already stated multiple times these are trade offs I'm okay with.
As you can see, I'm not afraid of the side effect you think I'm afraid of.
 
When you rip off the muscle during injection, it will either fully heal or partially heal. When many not full but partial headings happen, this will he fibrosis.

Fibrosis is like a scar - it replaces muscle with just connective tissue that isn't muscle and has no muscle fibers.

In skin, fibrosis (scars) are not skin.

This answer isn't related to what I said.

Here is what I said:

As you can see, I'm not afraid of the side effect you think I'm afraid of.
I don't care at this point. I care only that others reading replies may be persuaded into what I consider a negative. It's about what you think for you vs what I think for the many.
 
I dont believe your age. I think your lying. You already got caught multiple times lying on this board. I do think you have major issues. You are way too young and immature to use steroids.
 
I don't care at this point. I care only that others reading replies may be persuaded into what I consider a negative. It's about what you think for you vs what I think for the many.
Correct.

But see, thing is, you still failed to list at least 1 serious reason why I shouldn't use steroids before the age of 25 and before the end of full HPTA development.

Again, if sterility and TRT for life, which are extremely unlikely to happen, is the scariest you can come with, I'm not afraid. These 2 health issues aren't even dangerous.

At some point, i will have to go on TRT anyway. What is the difference between going on TRT at age of 25 and going on TRT at age 45? In both cases, you are going on TRT.
I dont believe your age. I think your lying. You already got caught multiple times lying on this board. I do think you have major issues. You are way too young and immature to use steroids.
I probably mistyped my age. Currently, I'm 23 years old and will be 24 years old less than 6 months ago. That's my real age.
 
bros seriously you keep promising that you're going to get a log going

why don't you put it up so we can track your progress
 
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your issue is you are all over the place

you are supposed to put up a log and detail your training and diet but you never did
 
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I will say it again you're not 100% serious and all in we haven't seen anything from you
where are your pictures that you promised you'd put up in your log?
 
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I don't see the big deal about your age 24 or 25 same thing

what is a big deal though is you haven't put up a log as you promised and that's not good because you're going to end up with problems and then come back and blame us
 
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they approved your log weeks ago and we still haven't seen it
all we see is you keep making threads and arguing the same things over again
 
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we are still waiting for your log absolutely
we need you to be serious and get this done
 
either log this the right way
or just stop posting threads
you already promised you would get it up we need your full information and be truthful
 
You keep over complicating things, make it simple 250 test 400 primo and be done with it you don't need anything else or just 400-600 primo a week and be done with it, no need for AI no hassle easy clean cycle log it up with detail on diet training etc G2G this is so simple
 
You keep over complicating things, make it simple 250 test 400 primo and be done with it you don't need anything else or just 400-600 primo a week and be done with it, no need for AI no hassle easy clean cycle log it up with detail on diet training etc G2G this is so simple
Yes, it's simple... when you have done it multiple times and you are experienced and know what to expect.

I'm still not experienced and don't know how my body will react. However, I will still do it.

No way to use 250 mg T a week, that will most likely cause gynecomastia if I don't use estrogen inhibitors. For my first cycle, I have chosen non-aromatizing primobolan and a TRT dose of 80 or 100 mg a week, which will be done to counteract the suppression of natural testosterone caused by primobolan. The goal is keeping my T levels at 600 ng/dL, where they are now, naturally.
 
Yes, it's simple... when you have done it multiple times and you are experienced and know what to expect.

I'm still not experienced and don't know how my body will react. However, I will still do it.

No way to use 250 mg T a week, that will most likely cause gynecomastia if I don't use estrogen inhibitors. For my first cycle, I have chosen non-aromatizing primobolan and a TRT dose of 80 or 100 mg a week, which will be done to counteract the suppression of natural testosterone caused by primobolan. The goal is keeping my T levels at 600 ng/dL, where they are now, naturally.
Are u serious right now? I've done one cycle, my knowledge comes from years of research, videos reading the podcasts on here as well as asking questions and learning from the veteran members on this fourm and other fourms.

So when I tell u it is easy it is easy, primo has the safest steroid profile in existence you will have zero issues or sides running just primo, I've run it for 12 weeks with low test perfect blood work before and after no estrogen issues absolutely zero to worry about at all. I'm not blowing smoke up your rear end here about it.
 
Are u serious right now? I've done one cycle, my knowledge comes from years of research, videos reading the podcasts on here as well as asking questions and learning from the veteran members on this fourm and other fourms.

So when I tell u it is easy it is easy, primo has the safest steroid profile in existence you will have zero issues or sides running just primo, I've run it for 12 weeks with low test perfect blood work before and after no estrogen issues absolutely zero to worry about at all. I'm not blowing smoke up your rear end here about it.
Yes, I know primobolan is relatively safe. And I'm planning, as I already said, to run it with a low testosterone dose (80 or 100 mg a week) to prevent my body from having zero testosterone, aromatization and estrogen, since such hormonal imbalance will cause brutal side effects.

Primobolan shuts down natural testosterone production without adding exogenous testosterone, meaning using synthetic testosterone during a primobolan-only cycle is needed to keep testosterone levels within normal range.

I know how to do the cycle, but I still haven't figured out some things.

I can inject testosterone and take primobolan pills, yes, but I don't know how my body will react to these substances.

Recently, I have contacted an immunologist who promised to test me if I'm allergic to the substances I plan to use for my cycle - primobolan, synthetic testosterone, tamoxifen and clomiphene.

I already know what doses to use of these substances, but I can't know if I'm allergic and if I will get a deadly allergic reaction (anaphylaxis).

I have already contacted people from Hilma Biocare's RoidTeam and Domestic-Supply, and I'm waiting to get the allergic tests; if the tests show I'm not allergic, I will proceed with my order.

I can be thought of as a paranoid hypochondriac who is too afraid to inject substances his body has never been exposed to before.

People say I need to just start the cycle. Okay, but what if I get a sudden allergic reaction? I don't want to risk, so I'm going to wait until after the tests are ready. Once it becomes clear I'm not allergic, I will finally make the giant leap in my life!
 
Wait what primobolan pills ? Did u mean primobolan injections? While primo tabs do exist they are useless and won't do anything for u. Primo also has anti estrogen properties and can act like and AI and help keep estrogen down, u don't want to run AI to high alongside primo and low test because you can tank estrogen badly and that will cause alot of issues for u.

Brother I can cross the street tomorrow and get hit by a car and die, point being life in general is a big gamble, either u take the gamble because the risk is worth the reward or you sit on the sidelines and live in a bubble, nothing benadryl can't help u with if u have a reaction, i think u will be fine, paranoid and gear doesn't mix at all so I would consider not running anything at that point, it's only gonna get worse and your headspace will ruin your cycle I promise u that
 
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Stop overthinking. You have no experience with gear use so listen to us fellas who have been using gear as well as coaching others for years.

If you want to start with a test and primo cycle. Run test and primo at a 1:1 ratio. A good first cycle of these would be 200 test e and 200 primo. It's that simple. 1:1 ratio with test and primo is always the best starting point. Out of the majority of guys I have coached, this ratio worked well and kept estrogen levels in a good spot. You aren't going to just instantly get gyno. Stop panicking about it.

You can adjust your doses from there based on estrogen levels via feel and then bloods.

If your estrogen is low, up the test slightly. And vice versa if estrogen is high.

No hcg. No clomid. Run clomid in your pct.

Thats it.
 
y, and I'm waiting to get the allergic tests; if the tests show I'm not allergic, I will proceed with my order.
Please clue me in on this? I have never heard of an allergy test for steroids.
 
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