Some questions about primobolan

[RickyLam]

Dear all,

I am currently looking for information about primobolan which might be used in my future cycles. May I ask:

1. How can primobolan do the cutting and bulking at the same time?
2. I know primobolan has aromatase inhibition property, hence many web sources said that stacking it with test E is necessary. But what should be the Primo-to-TestE ratio? 1:1? 1:2:? 2:3? Seems opinions about this aspect are quite mixed...
3. PIP issue: Will primobolan 100mg/mL alone gives bad PIP? Test E 400mg/mL is known to give severe PIP. If I stack Test E 400 with primo 100, would the mixture also give severe PIP?

My background: Currently running a cycle with 20mg dbol per day (for 6 weeks) and 250 mg of Test E every 3 days (for 11-12 weeks). So far so good. No water bloat and no other side effects so far. I still have stocks for dbol so it is likely that I would continue the dbol + TestE stack for my next cycle. Primobolan is one that is highly acclaimed for, yet very expensive, therefore I would like to have more information about it at this moment before considering buying it. Thanks for your information in advance.

 

[s.gentz]

Dear all,

I am currently looking for information about primobolan which might be used in my future cycles. May I ask:

1. How can primobolan do the cutting and bulking at the same time?
2. I know primobolan has aromatase inhibition property, hence many web sources said that stacking it with test E is necessary. But what should be the Primo-to-TestE ratio? 1:1? 1:2:? 2:3? Seems opinions about this aspect are quite mixed...
3. PIP issue: Will primobolan 100mg/mL alone gives bad PIP? Test E 400mg/mL is known to give severe PIP. If I stack Test E 400 with primo 100, would the mixture also give severe PIP?

My background: Currently running a cycle with 20mg dbol per day (for 6 weeks) and 250 mg of Test E every 3 days (for 11-12 weeks). So far so good. No water bloat and no other side effects so far. I still have stocks for dbol so it is likely that I would continue the dbol + TestE stack for my next cycle. Primobolan is one that is highly acclaimed for, yet very expensive, therefore I would like to have more information about it at this moment before considering buying it. Thanks for your information in advance.

1-Primobolan does not cut or bulk. This is up to your diet.
2-Nobody can tell you ho wyou will react to theses compounds as they interact differently in all of us. A 1:1 ratio would be fine to start. You will have to get bloodwork along the way and experiment with what will work for you.
3-If you use a sponsored lab i wouldn't worry much about PIP from the primo. I have ran fragon200 with 0 PIP. I would be way more concerned running the test400. I would advise against it. I ran that concentration once and it only took me 2 shots to realize how much it sucks. Don't go over 300mg/ml in anything.

 

[dylangemelli]

Diet dictates everything.. obviously certain compounds are meant or better utilized in certain circumstances and of course primo is much more geared towards cutting and/or recomp but it fits nicely into a bulking cycle as long as you are not solely dependent upon it as your main bulking compound.. its a great compliment to help keeps things dry and adding lean muscle along with low side effects but diet and training type/method dictate all...

as far as the ratio, i am not a fan of running test too high and always prefer to keep test in the 250-300 range with primo at 400-600 mg

with the PIP, anytime you have higher concentrations, there is a greater likelihood of PIP but it also depends on quality and carrier oils used as well

 

[Noah Wixx]

Primo is my favorite, pip isn't bad especially if you inject into certain areas, I find ventro glutes and rear glutes the least pippy areas for myself.

I actually prefer using Primo in the 200mg/ml concentration myself just rotate sites and u will be fine.

Also I personally use para pharma primo from ugfreak.to and it is A+++ excellent very little pip.

You can also run syringe capped of course under hot water and rotate the barrel and mix the oils, it will thin them a little and make injection easier for some tips.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Dear all,

I am currently looking for information about primobolan which might be used in my future cycles. May I ask:

1. How can primobolan do the cutting and bulking at the same time?
2. I know primobolan has aromatase inhibition property, hence many web sources said that stacking it with test E is necessary. But what should be the Primo-to-TestE ratio? 1:1? 1:2:? 2:3? Seems opinions about this aspect are quite mixed...
3. PIP issue: Will primobolan 100mg/mL alone gives bad PIP? Test E 400mg/mL is known to give severe PIP. If I stack Test E 400 with primo 100, would the mixture also give severe PIP?

My background: Currently running a cycle with 20mg dbol per day (for 6 weeks) and 250 mg of Test E every 3 days (for 11-12 weeks). So far so good. No water bloat and no other side effects so far. I still have stocks for dbol so it is likely that I would continue the dbol + TestE stack for my next cycle. Primobolan is one that is highly acclaimed for, yet very expensive, therefore I would like to have more information about it at this moment before considering buying it. Thanks for your information in advance.

@RickyLam welcome to the EVO family, we are happy to have you here.

Some of your questions are reasonable but some of your questions are very vague, especially we dont know anything about you. We dont know anything for sure from your situation.

example generic answers
1) depends on your situation
2) primobolan is NOT an Ai its more of a SERM and ratios depend on many factors
3) 400mgs/ml test is high pip, primo 100mgs/ml moderate primo, but mixing might be an issue

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[Mobster]

Dear all,

I am currently looking for information about primobolan which might be used in my future cycles. May I ask:

1. How can primobolan do the cutting and bulking at the same time?
2. I know primobolan has aromatase inhibition property, hence many web sources said that stacking it with test E is necessary. But what should be the Primo-to-TestE ratio? 1:1? 1:2:? 2:3? Seems opinions about this aspect are quite mixed...
3. PIP issue: Will primobolan 100mg/mL alone gives bad PIP? Test E 400mg/mL is known to give severe PIP. If I stack Test E 400 with primo 100, would the mixture also give severe PIP?

My background: Currently running a cycle with 20mg dbol per day (for 6 weeks) and 250 mg of Test E every 3 days (for 11-12 weeks). So far so good. No water bloat and no other side effects so far. I still have stocks for dbol so it is likely that I would continue the dbol + TestE stack for my next cycle. Primobolan is one that is highly acclaimed for, yet very expensive, therefore I would like to have more information about it at this moment before considering buying it. Thanks for your information in advance.

Your actual stats?

 

[stevesmi]

My advice is try it run and honest dosage of 400 or 500mgs a week
log it and run a little bit of an androgen with it to give it a little kick you'll have good results and use napsgear

 

[e2]

Primo is an anabolic steroid
it's not magic it will do what other steroids will do but it has certain traits that guys like

 

[2Thick]

my suggestion is try it out yourself and be the judge
get a log going and let's see what you're made of

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

it's not that expensive anymore
and you don't even need that much you can go 300 or 400 milligrams

 

[Wootoom]

definitely give it a shot and log it for us
that will be the best way to see if you like it

 

[JasonPriest]

my advice is try it at 400 milligrams a week
domestic supply has many different options to choose from and the post injection pain is low

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro primo sucks
i hate it. go with tren next time

 

[Quadsweep]

primo isn't for everyone
some guys like it and some don't.
i suggest you try para pharma, its smooth as Noah said, check out his log where he ran it and get it from ugfreak

 

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[Ulter]

there are a lot of different opinions on Primo
a lot of guys really like them so you should try it

 

[chesty]

I wouldn't go less than 300 milligrams a week
and stank something like testosterone with it works good

 

[ROIDDERS]

make sure you use an approved source and you won't have to worry about price
hopefully you can do a log Journal

 

[ceo]

bros all in with primo
run it 500mgs and log it for us!

 

[Noah Wixx]

primo isn't for everyone
some guys like it and some don't.
i suggest you try para pharma, its smooth as Noah said, check out his log where he ran it and get it from ugfreak

Absolutely and I'm now hitting my stride with the cycle weights are going up and up.