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Best course here is to wait for @Nordic Fusion to tell us the carrier oil and see.
@Player480 I do think a mild infection is possible, do you have bloods for WBC and corstisol etc lately?
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@Player480 I do think a mild infection is possible, do you have bloods for WBC and corstisol etc lately?Only asked for HCT on the blood cell side of things, was in range.Best course here is to wait for @Nordic Fusion to tell us the carrier oil and see.
Highly doubt it's an infection. Has been consistent for so long with no other indications of infection. Injection sites totally fine. Zero cough, clear sinuses, no post-nasal or digestive problems at all.
When I finish cycle and stop injecting EO, if CRP stays elevated I will ask for infection markers.
My experience is not abnormal, cursory search of 'ethyl oleate c reactive protein' will show it's a reality that some are sensitive.
I had the same thing warm feeling in forehead bad behind the eyes. This was do to a virus going around, it took couple weeks to feel normal again
Been much longer than a couple weeks (virtually the duration of cycle). More symptoms than the low grade fever consistent with sys.inflammation. Confirmed elevated CRP.
Just want to know the carrier oils for the non-EO options for future orders.
@Nordic Fusion sorry for filling your thread with this. Next time I'll stick to email and wait. I'll re-iterate, not criticizing the use of EO as most can tolerate it. If for some reason you don't want carrier oils public info, feel free to PM.
Thanks.
Yeah I know. Still waiting, hope he’ll come through eventually
@Nordic Fusion is legit for at least 5 years now, he needs time.
Hey brother!
We use Grapeseed Oil for everything across the board, and EO for particular compounds that are more dense mg per mg or are known to crash a bit easier. We use this at an extremely low content. It looks like you've done your due diligence already and are knowledgable on topics here, so you may indeed actually be sensitive to EO slightly.
For most people it tends to be more correlative i find -- Due to the nature of the compounds they're using that actually have the EO in it -- some may say they can't handle EO but in reality they are just shooting 2 CC's of a 450mg/ml compound (lol).
Pull the EO out of your next cycle and see how you respond man! We'll dive deeper via email.
Good answer @Nordic Fusion very nice to see this follow up.
Generally seems EO is the only carrier for high mgs/ml, most grapeseed crashes at that level.
Yeah man. You kind of "need" it for more dense compounds or else the oil is too sensitive and just crashes during transport. We've tried without. We've played around with the amount over all these years and we're at the lowest possible amount that can be put in that will keep the compounds stable. If an individual is truly sensitive to EO there is no avoiding the slight inflammation i suppose. Back to the drawing boardGood answer @Nordic Fusion very nice to see this follow up.
Generally seems EO is the only carrier for high mgs/ml, most grapeseed crashes at that level.
I have heard of MCT oil being used.Yeah man. You kind of "need" it for more dense compounds or else the oil is too sensitive and just crashes during transport. We've tried without. We've played around with the amount over all these years and we're at the lowest possible amount that can be put in that will keep the compounds stable. If an individual is truly sensitive to EO there is no avoiding the slight inflammation i suppose. Back to the drawing board
@Nordic Fusion have you tested MCT base?I suspect it is like any other allergy, where if you're cursed with it, even trace amounts are going to give some sort of inflammatory response. At the same time I am curious if one can desensitize themselves to it over time, using gradual low exposures. Princess bride style, haha.Yeah man. You kind of "need" it for more dense compounds or else the oil is too sensitive and just crashes during transport. We've tried without. We've played around with the amount over all these years and we're at the lowest possible amount that can be put in that will keep the compounds stable. If an individual is truly sensitive to EO there is no avoiding the slight inflammation i suppose. Back to the drawing board
I am keen to do that experiment myself, as there is potential for interacting with other labs in future decades who use EO at some low level, but are less straight-forward about it. Becoming insensitive to it would be ideal.
I'll take some time off after I finish this run and try to confirm. But at some point I will try out a cycle with EO again to see if I react any differently next time.
Great to know that the rest of the carrier oil(s) is organic. Would be very confounding to figuring things out if it were not.
Have heard good things about Castor Oil. GSO is perfectly fine for me as my admin site is delts, which clear depot faster than glutes/thighs. So Castor Oil and its long half-life would be wasted. But for the glute bros, it could enhance serum levels at the same dose. This is why Bayer uses it.
As usual, very impressed by NF. Thanks.
I have used MCT as well and had no reaction. But I have read that for the rare few it can be inflammatory.I have heard of MCT oil being used.
Peanut Oil similar, vast majority of people it's perfectly fine, but for the forsaken ones, it is extremely bad.
GSO seems to be the most widely tolerated. It also has a nice viscosity.
MCT beats peanut oil any day
a ton of guys allergic to peanuts these days. GSO EO and MCT usually most smooth.
Don't purchase from this fella, scammed me out of an order that never reached home. Promised he'd send me my order again, never delivered, says the order got lost (by the way if you dont ask him details, he'll never give them to you, you could sit there for weeks waiting for an order that got lost lmao). The felle has been ignoring me for weeks, but strangely enough once I sent him an email from a different email address, inquiring about purchasing something, he responded with a nice message within a few hours...
This guy used to be decent, I spent thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars with him but since that Canada Post strike, he's scamming people now. Can give proofs if needed. Won't bother with him anymore for 200 bucks, I thank god I didn't catch some shit with the stuff he sells because if he's willing to scam people like this, who knows what shit he puts in those vials they're not even tested. I'm only mad he made me miss some pins by saying "Ugh it got lost, sending a new batch brother !" when he didn't send shit and he knew it, making me waste my time.
He never replies about getting some info, or a potential refund, or anything like that. However if you ask him about a new order he replies instantly.
Avoid at all costs, there's much better labs in Canada who don't act shitty like this fella.
This guy used to be decent, I spent thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars with him but since that Canada Post strike, he's scamming people now. Can give proofs if needed. Won't bother with him anymore for 200 bucks, I thank god I didn't catch some shit with the stuff he sells because if he's willing to scam people like this, who knows what shit he puts in those vials they're not even tested. I'm only mad he made me miss some pins by saying "Ugh it got lost, sending a new batch brother !" when he didn't send shit and he knew it, making me waste my time.
He never replies about getting some info, or a potential refund, or anything like that. However if you ask him about a new order he replies instantly.
Avoid at all costs, there's much better labs in Canada who don't act shitty like this fella.
@experied welcome to the EVO family, and I'm sorry to hear about your experience.
Are you saying you send @Nordic Fusion money and never got your package? or is this related to the Canada post strike? my understanding in Canada a lot of shipping issues related to Canada post not to Nordic.
Yes, I did send money to him, never got it but it was unrelated to the strike as he sent it with Purolator. He blamed it on them, gave me store credit, and when I tried to use said store credit, he simply vanished and started ignoring me, as explained in my post. He said regarding my order with store credit that the first time they lost it and the second time he just ... vanished, never provided a tracking number, never replies to anything, never updates despite me asking. Just bizarre behaviour that this website shouldn't promote in my opinion.
Says the guy with 2 posts who highly likely screwed up his own address or something to this effect.
I dont use Nordic but I have and can guarantee it's not on them, they would have made very sure you were taken care.
Go fly kites dude
@experied can you post redacted screen shots of the convo you sent him? remove personal info.
This was its clear the dates and when no response so your feedback is not questioned.
I have history with this lab from early 2023, and I never messed up my address even once. So do read well before attacking me personally. Last reply I got from him was 23rd january. However he replied within the same day today to a potential new customer. How is this making sure I'm taken care of ? I'm just warning potential people interested in buying from him. If you want a good experience, avoid him. He won't ever reply to you, sometimes he won't even ship it, and tell you they lost it, he won't give you any tracking, if you want a refund, wait for it for a long time, IF you're getting one ever (still waiting for mine). I've been buying stuff from him before and it was alright, now it's not anymore, leaving a bad review, and moving on to another lab that's decent.
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if you read the messages you'd see that he didn't even provide a tracking number. Your message literally amounts to "I've never eaten at this restaurant, but I can guarantee it's good !". I've spend thousands and thousands of dollars with him since 2023. I'm 1000x more qualified than you to speak about this matter, if you're just gonna say dumb shit might as well not comment.
Just to make things clear : I don't even expect a refund from this lab, I'm 100% convinced he's a liar, and a scammer. I'm just warning people who google "Canadian steroids" and stumble on this thread. Avoid him.
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