and that too trying to give advice to people you have no idea what they look like you don't know how to eat you don't know how they train which are all just as important as the drugs except a lot of people here seem to think the drugs are more important they're not bodybuilding weight training whatever it's like a triad there's three components to it that you have to get right or you'll never fulfill your true potential. that's the diet, training and the drugs together you miss one of them and you're not going to get where you should be. I've never taken two or else at the same time maybe once but I rarely do like I said it's not rocket science you need to use it testosterone so say testosterone C, you need an anabolic so say you throw in deca at 500 mg and then use the turnabol that's your oral. but that's not the end of it you have to make sure your diets on point you know what the hell to do for your own body same thing with the training you have to know what works best for you. if you don't know those two things using the drugs you're not going to get close to as much out of them as you would