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Let's start at the top. I'm not, as we Brits say, going to go into the ins and outs of a dogs arse. You seem to be under the impression I (and anyone else advising you) have bucket loads of time to sit here, for free, telling you what to do all day long. It's also the weekend, we have jobs, family and social lives. So you'll have to excuse us if we don't instantly type out back stories.

Now you seem like an intelligent lad yet are wasting time arguing with us as though, should you somehow score some imaginary win, we'll come round to your way of thinking and give what amounts to a nod for you to go ahead and screw yourself up. Plus, and here's a thought, you could always search both on this forum and online for the 'why it's a bad idea to take steroids before you're full matured'. I'll address that shortly.

I mentioned, quite clearly above, that one mod is 'an older guy'. Hence, as with other older guys, it's not at all uncommon for their natural test levels (in fact it happens to ALL guys only some more than others) to get lower as they get older. You know this right?? The flip side, then, is also true. When you're younger and not fully matured, yours will be lower but get better (go up) as you age. Right up, in a healthy guy with a good diet and working out / staying fit to as high as around 40 (average guys is earlier) before it falls off. If you look at what docs consider full maturity it's thus:

1) Full height (or near to it) is between 18-25. So you're not yet at your maximum full height. You may be very close.
2) Physical maturity (height, weight, muscle size, balls working flat out etc): around age 25. So 7 years then. Right about the time when guys think about marrying (and having kids)
3) Max strength (in untrained men) around 30-35. Funnily enough also when you're likely to be at the peak of your career professionally speaking.

Oh and your comment about not seeing the world through your eyes... so fkin what. Firstly we've all been 18. That's EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE REPLYING. Secondly, you're not seeing the world through our eyes, with our knowledge and our experience.

Now the gamble, as already mentioned, has NOTHING to do with PCT. We know (heck I think you even agree) roids stop production on cycle. We also know (ditto) PCT gives what's termed a soft landing and helps boost (no such thing as restarting it) whatever you're producing post cycle back to or about natural levels. However, in the young (so 18 then) you can stop it all together. Let's say you started a nice 12 week cycle today. PCT or not by the 9th September you'd be rolling the dice, crossing your fingers and saying hail fkin Mary that you're not screwed.

Here's a Brucie Bonus for you (look that up ha ha): The advantage of our age is we know that you can, if you so wish, by all means do a cycle when you're 25. And, if you're proper hardcore, make a SHIT load of gains between now and then. Heck, just based on averages (like all the numbers above) you'll be anything from 14 pounds (2 a year) to 35lbs (5 a year) heavier WITHOUT A SINGLE ROID. There's NOTHING to stop you training right up until they nail the fkin coffin lid on. As per the saying.... it's not a race it's a marathon. So pace yourself. Go without gear for a bit. Grow naturally and if you must then use when it's the right time.

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I also did the search you might have done (from Labrada-dot-com): Why Teenagers Should Stay Away From Steroids

Many teenagers do not know exactly how high their natural testosterone production can be. It ranges anywhere from 800 to 1300 ng/dl. This is literally the equivalent of taking a 300mg shot of testosterone (steroids) on a weekly basis. Many times adults get on them through Doctor’s supervision because their natural testosterone production is low. This is what is called Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT). At a teenager’s age there is not a need to do so as it is very easy to increase size and strength naturally with a good diet and training routine. So many times I hear teens talking about what they want to take or have already done so. What they do not realize is that by using steroids at a young age it will kill your natural testosterone production. This means that when they grow older they will be forced to use them to have a normal testosterone level or they will have a naturally low testosterone. This also means they will not feel as good as they normally would and often not have the stamina that they should have.

I cant marry, im not enough serious. 😖

So, if i wait 7 years, then i will be able to make crazy steroid cycles and becone big as a house without getting damage on the ednocryne system, and i wont become infertily?
 
I cant marry, im not enough serious. [emoji37]

So, if i wait 7 years, then i will be able to make crazy steroid cycles and becone big as a house without getting damage on the ednocryne system, and i wont become infertily?

Just go away


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You are 18 years old. You are WAY too young to be using steroids.

Buy a gym membership, focus on your diet and training program and you will get the body you are looking for. Steroids at your age are a horrible idea.
 
Mobster, read this, please:

Dylangemelly, relax and don't be angry.

Yes chadmack, the guy is telling me the products are not fake. He sounds seriously.

I don't know what to tell you, mobster. We need to stop talking about ednocrine system and side effects. Why? Because every person, every article is telling me different things. If now i go out and talk with people about steroids, everyone will tell me different things, which will create mix of different ideas in my head and i will get headache. As i said, everyone, every article is telling me different things, and this is why i can't make my own decision. Guy1 will tell me "get steroids, its awesome", Guy2 will tell me "Steroids are not dangerous", Guy3 will tell me "If you get steroids, you will ruin your life"... This makes me to think about one thing, say second thing, doing third thing... I hope you understand what im telling you. The problem is that you are old guy, which means your way of thinking is old too. My father is 51 years old, and he has the same way of thinking. You are talking only about health, which is not important in our age.

Im under pressure by the modern world. You Mobster, have to realize we dont live in 1500 year, where religious is everything. You are so naive and you think in way i dont understand. In 1500 year the life of people was something like that - marry, have kids, live your life, pray to God, help others and be good person. But now, the things have been changed. If you ask a women this question "what is the perfect male in your view point", she will never tell you she wants a guy who all day will stays in the church and dont have time for her. As i said, things have been changed. There are a few types of mens:

1. Rich guy - he dont care if he is fat, have asymmetrical face, big nose, small penis, heaight of 120cm, no teeth in mouth etc.. He has a lof of money, and he can controll everything he wants. *this is why womens will like him, because rich guy can give her a lot of things. Every women want to go in Dubai, right? But in the same time, not every boyfriend can make this gift for her.

2. Poor guy - a guy, who has no money and is disappoined from the life. He is religious and all day prays to God. I dont think some women will like him, but there is still chance. Mobster, dont get me wrong, there is nothing bad in religion.

3. Average guy (this is me) - a guy who is not billionaire, but in the same time he is not poor. This kind of guys have chance to meet nice women, but the chance is not big. However, the muscle size is increasing the chance. Big muscles are sign of alpha male.

Yes, i know steroids have side effects, but i will risk.

In today age, you dont have to be good person, help others and be religious to be loved by others. In today age, you have to have good appearance. I will give you some examples.

If you go to Hollywood, you will see almost everyone have plastic surgery for straight nose, square jaw and high cheeck bones. And almost every womes have painted her eyebrows in darker color. This is because dark eyebrows, straight nose, big lips, square jaw, high cheeck bones and etc are part of the modern people's requipments about what is to be beautiful. You know what i mean, right? Do you think plastic surgeries dont have risks? There is risk to get infections, flesh-eating bacteria and much more... But however people prefer to risk, because they want to meet the requipments of the beauty. See Ian Simerhalder. He put implants in his jaw, to get square jaw - because as i said, square jaw is part of what people see as beauty.

I can become rich when i want, i have more than enough properties. Im enough smart to get on the top of the pyramid. But also, im perfectionist. I want to be perfect in the eyes of the people.

Conclusion:
Rich guys attract womens with money, because rich mans can give everything to the women.

Average guys (guys as me) attract women via appearance. Yes i have naturally beautiful face, but im not big enough. As i said earlier, big muscles are sign of alpha male. Other signs are high testosterone face, facial hair - things i have. Muscles are sign of strenght, which makes women feel protected and attracted.

Yes, im under pressure by the modern world. I can train naturally, but someone on steroids will be bigger than me and he will attract my girlfriend.

Now, continue to listen to me.

The sex is not the most important thing in the relationship. You think a man must have big dick and strong erections?

I know a guy without one hand - he is married and have 3 kids.

I know a guy without 2 hands and 2 legs - he is married too. I dont know does he have kids or not.

I know a guy with diabete, overweight, cant get boner, but he has 5 kids and wife with breast cancer. His relationship is not good, because the behaviour of his 2 sons is not good, and now he hates them and his wife.. This guy is 60 years old and he have found young women. He is rich also, but the relationship with the young women is not about the money, its real love.

I know a guy who is paychopath - he have two great kids and normal wife.

I know a guy who is sociopath - he has wife too.

I know women with schizophrenia - she has son.

As you can see, sick peope can have families too. So stop talking about penises, sperm and ednocrine system. I dont know why people are creating steroid forums, after in these steroid forums the topics are only about sperm, penises and ednocrine system...

I know my english is not native language, but im explainig well. Why you cant understand me?

Why you cant understand today the man must have big muscles to be real man in the eyea of other people.

What you cant understand? Tell me thebrhing you cant understand, and i will explain them to you.

Yes, you are older and you have more knowledge than me, but your knowledge ans view points doesnt fit the modern peoples' thinking. Im not insulting you :)

Yes, you again cant understand me. Tell me if you didnt understand what i said, and i will trybto write it again and more detailed. 👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽

P. S. I think fitness womens are using hormones to get distance between the legs. 😈

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You are 18 years old. You are WAY too young to be using steroids.

Buy a gym membership, focus on your diet and training program and you will get the body you are looking for. Steroids at your age are a horrible idea.

Yes. Im the guy from skype. This is the topic for what you told me the link dont work.

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P. S. You need to watch Some film about animal kingdoom, thenbyou will understans what is alpha male.
 
Mobster, read this, please:

Dylangemelly, relax and don't be angry.

Yes chadmack, the guy is telling me the products are not fake. He sounds seriously.

I don't know what to tell you, mobster. We need to stop talking about ednocrine system and side effects. Why? Because every person, every article is telling me different things. If now i go out and talk with people about steroids, everyone will tell me different things, which will create mix of different ideas in my head and i will get headache. As i said, everyone, every article is telling me different things, and this is why i can't make my own decision. Guy1 will tell me "get steroids, its awesome", Guy2 will tell me "Steroids are not dangerous", Guy3 will tell me "If you get steroids, you will ruin your life"... This makes me to think about one thing, say second thing, doing third thing... I hope you understand what im telling you. The problem is that you are old guy, which means your way of thinking is old too. My father is 51 years old, and he has the same way of thinking. You are talking only about health, which is not important in our age.

Im under pressure by the modern world. You Mobster, have to realize we dont live in 1500 year, where religious is everything. You are so naive and you think in way i dont understand. In 1500 year the life of people was something like that - marry, have kids, live your life, pray to God, help others and be good person. But now, the things have been changed. If you ask a women this question "what is the perfect male in your view point", she will never tell you she wants a guy who all day will stays in the church and dont have time for her. As i said, things have been changed. There are a few types of mens:

1. Rich guy - he dont care if he is fat, have asymmetrical face, big nose, small penis, heaight of 120cm, no teeth in mouth etc.. He has a lof of money, and he can controll everything he wants. *this is why womens will like him, because rich guy can give her a lot of things. Every women want to go in Dubai, right? But in the same time, not every boyfriend can make this gift for her.

2. Poor guy - a guy, who has no money and is disappoined from the life. He is religious and all day prays to God. I dont think some women will like him, but there is still chance. Mobster, dont get me wrong, there is nothing bad in religion.

3. Average guy (this is me) - a guy who is not billionaire, but in the same time he is not poor. This kind of guys have chance to meet nice women, but the chance is not big. However, the muscle size is increasing the chance. Big muscles are sign of alpha male.

Yes, i know steroids have side effects, but i will risk.

In today age, you dont have to be good person, help others and be religious to be loved by others. In today age, you have to have good appearance. I will give you some examples.

If you go to Hollywood, you will see almost everyone have plastic surgery for straight nose, square jaw and high cheeck bones. And almost every womes have painted her eyebrows in darker color. This is because dark eyebrows, straight nose, big lips, square jaw, high cheeck bones and etc are part of the modern people's requipments about what is to be beautiful. You know what i mean, right? Do you think plastic surgeries dont have risks? There is risk to get infections, flesh-eating bacteria and much more... But however people prefer to risk, because they want to meet the requipments of the beauty. See Ian Simerhalder. He put implants in his jaw, to get square jaw - because as i said, square jaw is part of what people see as beauty.

I can become rich when i want, i have more than enough properties. Im enough smart to get on the top of the pyramid. But also, im perfectionist. I want to be perfect in the eyes of the people.

Conclusion:
Rich guys attract womens with money, because rich mans can give everything to the women.

Average guys (guys as me) attract women via appearance. Yes i have naturally beautiful face, but im not big enough. As i said earlier, big muscles are sign of alpha male. Other signs are high testosterone face, facial hair - things i have. Muscles are sign of strenght, which makes women feel protected and attracted.

Yes, im under pressure by the modern world. I can train naturally, but someone on steroids will be bigger than me and he will attract my girlfriend.

Now, continue to listen to me.

The sex is not the most important thing in the relationship. You think a man must have big dick and strong erections?

I know a guy without one hand - he is married and have 3 kids.

I know a guy without 2 hands and 2 legs - he is married too. I dont know does he have kids or not.

I know a guy with diabete, overweight, cant get boner, but he has 5 kids and wife with breast cancer. His relationship is not good, because the behaviour of his 2 sons is not good, and now he hates them and his wife.. This guy is 60 years old and he have found young women. He is rich also, but the relationship with the young women is not about the money, its real love.

I know a guy who is paychopath - he have two great kids and normal wife.

I know a guy who is sociopath - he has wife too.

I know women with schizophrenia - she has son.

As you can see, sick peope can have families too. So stop talking about penises, sperm and ednocrine system. I dont know why people are creating steroid forums, after in these steroid forums the topics are only about sperm, penises and ednocrine system...

I know my english is not native language, but im explainig well. Why you cant understand me?

Why you cant understand today the man must have big muscles to be real man in the eyea of other people.

What you cant understand? Tell me thebrhing you cant understand, and i will explain them to you.

Yes, you are older and you have more knowledge than me, but your knowledge ans view points doesnt fit the modern peoples' thinking. Im not insulting you :)

Yes, you again cant understand me. Tell me if you didnt understand what i said, and i will trybto write it again and more detailed. 👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽

P. S. I think fitness womens are using hormones to get distance between the legs. 😈

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Yes. Im the guy from skype. This is the topic for what you told me the link dont work.

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P. S. You need to watch Some film about animal kingdoom, thenbyou will understans what is alpha male.
ive read some pretty ridiculous shit in my day... i mean, the amounts of people i deal with daily, i have seen it all but you have taken the cake... i have NEVER, in all these years seen someone so far gone, misguided and living on an entirely different planet than you, NEVER... you are way too far gone... seriously, this is the worst thing i have literally ever seen in all these years, and BY FAR it takes the cake... its not even close..
 
ive read some pretty ridiculous shit in my day... i mean, the amounts of people i deal with daily, i have seen it all but you have taken the cake... i have NEVER, in all these years seen someone so far gone, misguided and living on an entirely different planet than you, NEVER... you are way too far gone... seriously, this is the worst thing i have literally ever seen in all these years, and BY FAR it takes the cake... its not even close..

Im realist and i know money rule the the world. If you dont have money, then you should have good appearance. You cant tell im not right, because im right. From where are you? Maybe you live in country, where the thing are different. But thing again, am i right? In the text i wrote there is dozen of truth

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Think again*

Sorry fir the mistake, but the forum dobt have "edit" button
 
Im realist and i know money rule the the world. If you dont have money, then you should have good appearance. You cant tell im not right, because im right. From where are you? Maybe you live in country, where the thing are different. But thing again, am i right? In the text i wrote there is dozen of truth

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Think again*

Sorry fir the mistake, but the forum dobt have "edit" button

You would know being 18 years old with all your wisdom.. so please continue to teach us all about life... please... ive learned so much already carry on


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You would know being 18 years old with all your wisdom.. so please continue to teach us all about life... please... ive learned so much already carry on


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I know you know more than me. Im just telling you some facts about the modern world. Im also telling you why i want to go on steroids - because im under pressure by the modern world. Ask the older stars from Hollywood why they are doing everything possible to look as young as possible - because they are under pressure by the younger Hollywood stars. You got it?

P. S. Im not teaching you. Im just telling you facts you may already know.
 
I know you know more than me. Im just telling you some facts about the modern world. Im also telling you why i want to go on steroids - because im under pressure by the modern world. Ask the older stars from Hollywood why they are doing everything possible to look as young as possible - because they are under pressure by the younger Hollywood stars. You got it?

P. S. Im not teaching you. Im just telling you facts you may already know.

You are one disrespectful person to say the least... do i got it? Who do u think your talking to?? Are u in fucking hollywood? Im not responding again and because im an adult im not going to tell you what you need to hear... im looking forward to you learning a hard lesson


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You are one disrespectful person to say the least... do i got it? Who do u think your talking to?? Are u in fucking hollywood? Im not responding again and because im an adult im not going to tell you what you need to hear... im looking forward to you learning a hard lesson


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Im respectful person. Sometimes i sound disrespectful due to some reasons when i write in English. No, im not in Hollywood. But this doesnt mean i want to be average peraon to the end if my live. As i said earlier in this topic, i want to prove myself, i want people to know i exist and talk about me, i want to be popular, i want people to want to be like me... You know what i mean, buddy? And why you cant wait to see me learning hard lession? The fact i asked you "you got it", doesnt mean im not respect you. I just dont know English very well, this is why im asked you - i just wanted to make sure you can understand what im saying. I dont know who you are.
 
I know you know more than me. Im just telling you some facts about the modern world. Im also telling you why i want to go on steroids - because im under pressure by the modern world. Ask the older stars from Hollywood why they are doing everything possible to look as young as possible - because they are under pressure by the younger Hollywood stars. You got it?

P. S. Im not teaching you. Im just telling you facts you may already know.

The Hollywood reference works as well as comparing yourself to Supermodels. Those people (both) are freaks. What makes you think using steroids makes you a freak??

And no matter how many words you type you're still too young.
 
The Hollywood reference works as well as comparing yourself to Supermodels. Those people (both) are freaks. What makes you think using steroids makes you a freak??

And no matter how many words you type you're still too young.

Did you read the long post with the alien faces in page 3 from Yesterday, 07:53 PM? There i explained everything. https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/steroid-cycle-60569-3.html

Im not billionaire and i cant attract people with money, so i will attract them with appearance.

If i want to be freak, firstly i have to acting as freak. In the post e explained why im under pressure and why i need to go on steroids.
 
The only pressure you're under is self inflicted.

You need to read the long post. Well, i see you cant understand me. My way if thinking if more different than your way if thinking. If you have knowledge, could you help me with answers to my questions about steroids at all?

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Sorry for the mistakes again. If = of
 
You need to read the long post. Well, i see you cant understand me. My way if thinking if more different than your way if thinking. If you have knowledge, could you help me with answers to my questions about steroids at all?

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Sorry for the mistakes again. If = of

I did read it. Doesn't mean I gotta agree. I understand what you said but I know from experience you're wrong. And NO ONE will help you make what we see as a mistake. We have told you you're too young so why would we then help??
 
I did read it. Doesn't mean I gotta agree. I understand what you said but I know from experience you're wrong. And NO ONE will help you make what we see as a mistake. We have told you you're too young so why would we then help??

I already know i will do mistake, but this is my choice. Why you should support me? To be gay is wrong too, ok? But what if you have son and he is gay? You will know this is not right, however you will support him with all your love.

Its good for you to help me to achieve my goal. And again, i know i will do mistake, but this is my life choice. Btw, why you dont want to help me? What you will lose if you help me?
 
P. S. Smoking is bad too, but im pretty sure the guys who are telling me steroids are bad, they smoke
 
P. S. Smoking is bad too, but im pretty sure the guys who are telling me steroids are bad, they smoke

I've never smoked. EVER. And you ARE old enough, legally speaking, to smoke. Is it bad - sure.
 
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