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major.ast

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Hi all,

It s my first time posting here after harvesting information for a couple of months.

I was always active and got serious into strength training about 3 years ago, trying different styles to see what s what (crossfit, powerlifting, then strongman). I m 39 yo at 5'11, 210 and about 16-18 bf. My first try at a comp was static monsters a few months ago. I did reasonably well and met my goals, so I m now preparing for next year.

I went to a sports medicine doctor and started doing TRT in May 2022 with a 100mg gel (natural test at 300 at that point, then 550). In May 2023, I started with 200mg test c / week (test went up 850-900). During the summer, I took anadrol (60mg day for 60 days) alongside the regular trt. Starting in October, I took anavar (20mg day for 60 days). Bloods in December were on point apart from a mild change in LDL that went from excellent to good, but my doctor indicated this is not a big deal and likely due to recent anavar usage. I also get a sample diet plan which I follow reasonably well, sleep schedule is on point and alcohol consumption is minimal (I d say 3-4 times month, about 2-4 glasses of beer or wine max, if at all). I do a shitload of lab tests every 90-120 days following my doctor's requests. My goal is to stay healthy and active in the long run so I m not after anything crazy, but I am willing to compromise here and there since I really enjoy training hard and focusing on amateur level comps.

The thing is, as much as I am happy with my doctor's advice, he s based overseas (my home country) and has a career-long focus on bodybuilding. Sometimes I feel he doesn t always hit the mark when it comes to strenght training in general, but I trust him to read my lab tests etc so this trumps peak performance for me.

Hence, I wanted to ask for your advice. I had to cut 12 pounds for the static monsters and in all honesty, it was a pain. Not so much since I have no issues with following the diet plan and eating the same shit every day if necessary, but as someone who works full time alongside this amateur training thing, I was borderline dysfunctional due to being energy depleted. Pre comp training ranged about 3-4 hours 4 days a week (I have a coach taking care of that and the prep plan is great). I was occasionally hungry but brain fog and exhaustion were constant, I was shredded and strong, but otherwise useless. I resumed eating as usual after the comp and this depletion disappeared, my mood and productivity improved, as did my sleep and overall strenght. I m now back to 210, happy and all.

For this reason, the goal now is to move up to 230 (the next weight class for most strongmen comps). I do not necessarily need to reach this weight in the short term but I want to prioritise quality of life, so I want to avoid weight cut with heavy training later on. Also, I m leaning to the tall size at 198 in strongman, so I believe 230 is worth a try. At the moment, my doctor put me on 350mg test c per week during the early stage of hypertrophy training (taken as 250mg every 5 days), then will stack 350mg deca per week plus 60mg/day anadrol starting in February.

Since my goal is mass-building with a focus on strength, I wonder what you guys think of it. Anadrol was terrible for my appetite, I had stomach pain and occasionally some diarrhoea. I also had acne in the back and mild gyno. Acne I treated with topic stuff (partial success) and I used anastrozole for gyno (good results).

After reading a lot of content here, I m thinking about swapping anavar with dianabol (at 20mg day??). Also, would you suggest a different stack other than 350/350 testo and deca per week? A different ratio maybe?

A quick edit to add that I am currently based in the US and using napsgear dommestic delivery.
 
Hi all,

It s my first time posting here after harvesting information for a couple of months.

I was always active and got serious into strength training about 3 years ago, trying different styles to see what s what (crossfit, powerlifting, then strongman). I m 39 yo at 5'11, 210 and about 16-18 bf. My first try at a comp was static monsters a few months ago. I did reasonably well and met my goals, so I m now preparing for next year.

I went to a sports medicine doctor and started doing TRT in May 2022 with a 100mg gel (natural test at 300 at that point, then 550). In May 2023, I started with 200mg test c / week (test went up 850-900). During the summer, I took anadrol (60mg day for 60 days) alongside the regular trt. Starting in October, I took anavar (20mg day for 60 days). Bloods in December were on point apart from a mild change in LDL that went from excellent to good, but my doctor indicated this is not a big deal and likely due to recent anavar usage. I also get a sample diet plan which I follow reasonably well, sleep schedule is on point and alcohol consumption is minimal (I d say 3-4 times month, about 2-4 glasses of beer or wine max, if at all). I do a shitload of lab tests every 90-120 days following my doctor's requests. My goal is to stay healthy and active in the long run so I m not after anything crazy, but I am willing to compromise here and there since I really enjoy training hard and focusing on amateur level comps.

The thing is, as much as I am happy with my doctor's advice, he s based overseas (my home country) and has a career-long focus on bodybuilding. Sometimes I feel he doesn t always hit the mark when it comes to strenght training in general, but I trust him to read my lab tests etc so this trumps peak performance for me.

Hence, I wanted to ask for your advice. I had to cut 12 pounds for the static monsters and in all honesty, it was a pain. Not so much since I have no issues with following the diet plan and eating the same shit every day if necessary, but as someone who works full time alongside this amateur training thing, I was borderline dysfunctional due to being energy depleted. Pre comp training ranged about 3-4 hours 4 days a week (I have a coach taking care of that and the prep plan is great). I was occasionally hungry but brain fog and exhaustion were constant, I was shredded and strong, but otherwise useless. I resumed eating as usual after the comp and this depletion disappeared, my mood and productivity improved, as did my sleep and overall strenght. I m now back to 210, happy and all.

For this reason, the goal now is to move up to 230 (the next weight class for most strongmen comps). I do not necessarily need to reach this weight in the short term but I want to prioritise quality of life, so I want to avoid weight cut with heavy training later on. Also, I m leaning to the tall size at 198 in strongman, so I believe 230 is worth a try. At the moment, my doctor put me on 350mg test c per week during the early stage of hypertrophy training (taken as 250mg every 5 days), then will stack 350mg deca per week plus 60mg/day anadrol starting in February.

Since my goal is mass-building with a focus on strength, I wonder what you guys think of it. Anadrol was terrible for my appetite, I had stomach pain and occasionally some diarrhoea. I also had acne in the back and mild gyno. Acne I treated with topic stuff (partial success) and I used anastrozole for gyno (good results).

After reading a lot of content here, I m thinking about swapping anavar with dianabol (at 20mg day??). Also, would you suggest a different stack other than 350/350 testo and deca per week? A different ratio maybe?

A quick edit to add that I am currently based in the US and using napsgear dommestic delivery.
@major.ast welcome to the evolutionary.org family, happy to see you share.

Now, static monsters thats a strong man show right? I had a competitor I prepped for something like that but a while back.

I think in your case many things are an issue, besides the steroids. If you had issues with anadrol you should look to tbol not dbol IMO as the path, now with your goals in mind you want real steroid advice right? not just generic suggestions.
If you want us to really help you please start a NEW thread with your LOG journal diary that has your training diet in more detail with supps and history and pics and we can guide you better and tell you honestly from there the facts.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
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top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

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___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT Cycle Diet Training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/hsc318-testosterone-trenbolone-cycle-log-part-2.90696/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pre-cycle-diet-training-log.90712/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/supertiredwantfood-high-protein-log-female.95670/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-log-for-2023.87439/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/littletimetrouble-big-time-trt-log.90656/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ning-strength-staying-lean-third-cycle.96026/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/log-macs-bulk-2023.89802/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dbol-and-test-cypionate-10-week-log.90745/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pre-cycle-trt-log.90735/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/powerlifting-2023-2024-cycle-log-female.95657/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/princedaddy-2023-log-here-we-go-again.87659/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log.86174/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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good choice with napsgear

i've gotten stronger on just about every steroid, so you won't go wrong with dbol or var
i wouldn't be so fast to give up on anadrol. you likely just had a bad reaction to it in the stomach. try another brand from napsgear next time
 
bros definitely put up some pictures let's see what we're dealing with
get some full stats up of your strength lifts as well
 
that's some big weight for sure and that weight class you're probably a huge guy
would love to see some pictures get them up make sure you blur your face
 
you will do amazingly well at your competition don't worry
the gear on this forum is excellent and you will get some great results
make sure you get up your log Journal so we can track you
 
both anadrol and dbol are great for size
anavar is great for strength but not solo as much as stacked
it depends though we need to know more about you can you post up a log
 
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this will be an Epic log we don't see too many people doing these strongman competitions
everybody is so into bodybuilding these days but we love strong men as well on here
 
it's very important to get your log Journal up and going immediately
this way we can guide you and show you some tricks and tips
 
which weight class you're going in is definitely a big deal and it's important that you get it right the first time
otherwise you will just screw yourself up that's why a log is important
 
dbal great for strength and size bro
 
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