Test, Deca, EQ Hair safe cycle question (long)

[LuckyGTR123]

Hi Guys.
Background (about me) - 49 yrs old. Old timer from various forums under a different sig. Experience: About 15 cycles off and on for about 20 yrs or so. To give an idea, I used to make Tren from Finaplix back in the day. So I am not a novice. I have used Tren, EQ, Deca, Test, Anavar, Anadrol, M1T, S23, and MK677 in the past and know how my body reacts.
Got back into training hard about 1.5 yrs ago after a bad accident and was told I would probably never walk again yadda yadda. Been on TRT for about 1.5 yrs after the usual symptoms had me get my Test analyzed and was in the low 300s. On 150 mgs TRT a week my level's around 900.
I am a high estrogen producer and have always been. Even with low T, I have thinning hair and am sensitive to hairloss. I've found that I can ramp up only to about 375 mgs Test/wk without having hairloss and gyno issues on a blast. I have deca dick issues when going over 400 on deca. I don't have prostate issues to worry with.
Taking all the info I've presented I want to go on a good recomposition blast that stays fairly hair safe with no deca dick. (I have a 30 yr old fiance and intend to keep her satisfied

The blast/cycle I'm thinking is:
375 Test
300 Deca
300 EQ
14 weeks
Topical Minoxidil/Finasteride daily
I have Arimidex and Caber on hand if needed.

Possibly add 100 Tren to aid with the recomp (Before anyone loses their mind about combining 2 19-Nors look at the dosages. I combined these years ago with great results)

Someone may ask, why Deca at all? Why not just 600mgs EQ? I don't respond that well to EQ and it makes me so hungry I can't stand it. I respond uber well to Deca just it kills my dick at anything higher than 300mgs/wk. By combing the two at lower dosages the idea is to get the best of both without the sides I get at higher doses.

Anyone run/running a cycle like this? Is this too much anabolics to the small amount of androgens?
TIA

 

[stevesmi]

a lot of things to think about

finasteride can cause long term dick issues. look into that
if you have estrogen issues then lower your trt dose. 150 giving you 900 is not needed. do 100 or 125 and get less aromatization
if you don't like deca why run it at all then? and if you want to run it then stack in proviron to balance DHN/DHT and you won't have dick issues

 

[LevButlerov]

Hi Guys.
Background (about me) - 49 yrs old. Old timer from various forums under a different sig. Experience: About 15 cycles off and on for about 20 yrs or so. To give an idea, I used to make Tren from Finaplix back in the day. So I am not a novice. I have used Tren, EQ, Deca, Test, Anavar, Anadrol, M1T, S23, and MK677 in the past and know how my body reacts.
Got back into training hard about 1.5 yrs ago after a bad accident and was told I would probably never walk again yadda yadda. Been on TRT for about 1.5 yrs after the usual symptoms had me get my Test analyzed and was in the low 300s. On 150 mgs TRT a week my level's around 900.
I am a high estrogen producer and have always been. Even with low T, I have thinning hair and am sensitive to hairloss. I've found that I can ramp up only to about 375 mgs Test/wk without having hairloss and gyno issues on a blast. I have deca dick issues when going over 400 on deca. I don't have prostate issues to worry with.
Taking all the info I've presented I want to go on a good recomposition blast that stays fairly hair safe with no deca dick. (I have a 30 yr old fiance and intend to keep her satisfied

The blast/cycle I'm thinking is:
375 Test
300 Deca
300 EQ
14 weeks
Topical Minoxidil/Finasteride daily
I have Arimidex and Caber on hand if needed.

Possibly add 100 Tren to aid with the recomp (Before anyone loses their mind about combining 2 19-Nors look at the dosages. I combined these years ago with great results)

Someone may ask, why Deca at all? Why not just 600mgs EQ? I don't respond that well to EQ and it makes me so hungry I can't stand it. I respond uber well to Deca just it kills my dick at anything higher than 300mgs/wk. By combing the two at lower dosages the idea is to get the best of both without the sides I get at higher doses.

Anyone run/running a cycle like this? Is this too much anabolics to the small amount of androgens?
TIA

@LuckyGTR123 welcome to the evolutionary.org family, very glad you sharing with us.

Now, lets talk about your cycle. If you have issues with deca why use it? Equipoise is much better but if it makes you hungry why not primobolan?
but you can deal with deca sides with proviron but not always right
you are talking about sports-TRT here basically to be fair but cant really guess now

but you know there is a big problem here right?
we are telling you to use this or that steroid cycle without knowing more about you, really we dont know anything in detail; to know more about you we need you to help us, start a NEW thread with your LOG journal where you put your TRT diet training cardio sleep supps and gear into. This will help us guide you into a good sports-trt cycle.

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[MONSTRO]

Monstro says dont' run deca if you scared of dick problems
If I can't have sex with beautiful Portuguese women I don't know what I would do

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

I would swap out the DECA for equipoise
they both will give you similar results and won't cause some of these side effects that you're describing

 

[2Thick]

the thing is that guy is good for your hair
testosterone is not
so lower test dose and increase deca.
make sure you do a log

 

[e2]

the reason a log journal is so important are 2 reasons

1. if something goes wrong on cycle we can quickly help you and correct it
2. you will get the most out of your cycle that way

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

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[Ulter]

please log your next cycle for us
if you had done that previously we could have helped you along the way
these side effects don't just pop up out of nowhere but when they come we can definitely change course

 

[chesty]

we would recommend using deca only in certain situations
if you want to bulk that would be a good reason to do it

 

[ROIDDERS]

LOG LOG LOG
this one will be a really good log Journal
you are already on trt that's fine but then adding different steroids is going to make or break things from there

 

[ceo]

bros you won't go wrong with this stack
i like it
but if you have deca problems why use it? there are other steroids that you can run
log it for us

 

[Mobster]

I'd rather shave it off than use Fina

 

[dylangemelli]

you do you, clearly by the way you come across thats what your going to do...

ill just say to look into post finasteride syndrome, as well as other potential and likely issues with it... ive seen countless horror stories with it, otherwise, i wish you nothing but the best with everything

 

[LuckyGTR123]

Thanks for all the insights guys. This is all helpful! I'll address the questions so far.

LOG: I haven't started one because I had not started my blast, but will gladly start one of my TRT and when I start my blast will update as needed.

Proviron: Never have used it and was told years ago by someone very in the know at the time that is wasn't worth my time, but will definitely reconsider if the collective knowledge here thinks better of it.

Why not all Deca no EQ?: Deca dick becomes a problem in the past after 300 mgs or so, but even at 300mg/wk deca makes me grow better than 600mgs of EQ.

Why not all EQ and no Deca?: EQ makes me eat like a horse and my weight is my single hardest issue. No matter how clean I eat, I gain a lot of fat on High EQ.

Goals: I'm just a old gym rat who wants to look good and be somewhat big and avoid some side effects. I'm not going for contest; Currently 208 and 22% BF. 200 and 15% BF would be my goal. This is after working hard for 1.5 years after my accident, relearning how to walk etc. Started at 263 and I'm guessing 38% BF. I plan on started my blast in early March

Why Not Primo?: I'm just not experienced with it. I know a primo cycle is damn expensive and I don't think that with my goals it is necessary. But Once again, the collective knowledge here can definitely influence that decision.

You do you : Apologies if it came across that way, I am here to get suggestions and find out who has taken this cycle or has a better hair safe cycle that doesn't interact with my other side effects I've had. I know that many here are very experienced. Hell, you've seen more cycles in a day than I've run in my life! I've also seen kids who know nothing, telling people to cram 800mgs of Tren EOD, LOL.

Post Finasteride syndome: Help me here please! I assumed that that was only an issue with oral Finsateride. Is this happening with Topical like I am using?

Thanks again guys. I've got to get some sleep. Heading to the Cowboys/Packers game manana!

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks for all the insights guys. This is all helpful! I'll address the questions so far.

LOG: I haven't started one because I had not started my blast, but will gladly start one of my TRT and when I start my blast will update as needed.

Proviron: Never have used it and was told years ago by someone very in the know at the time that is wasn't worth my time, but will definitely reconsider if the collective knowledge here thinks better of it.

Why not all Deca no EQ?: Deca dick becomes a problem in the past after 300 mgs or so, but even at 300mg/wk deca makes me grow better than 600mgs of EQ.

Why not all EQ and no Deca?: EQ makes me eat like a horse and my weight is my single hardest issue. No matter how clean I eat, I gain a lot of fat on High EQ.

Goals: I'm just a old gym rat who wants to look good and be somewhat big and avoid some side effects. I'm not going for contest; Currently 208 and 22% BF. 200 and 15% BF would be my goal. This is after working hard for 1.5 years after my accident, relearning how to walk etc. Started at 263 and I'm guessing 38% BF. I plan on started my blast in early March

Why Not Primo?: I'm just not experienced with it. I know a primo cycle is damn expensive and I don't think that with my goals it is necessary. But Once again, the collective knowledge here can definitely influence that decision.

You do you : Apologies if it came across that way, I am here to get suggestions and find out who has taken this cycle or has a better hair safe cycle that doesn't interact with my other side effects I've had. I know that many here are very experienced. Hell, you've seen more cycles in a day than I've run in my life! I've also seen kids who know nothing, telling people to cram 800mgs of Tren EOD, LOL.

Post Finasteride syndome: Help me here please! I assumed that that was only an issue with oral Finsateride. Is this happening with Topical like I am using?

Thanks again guys. I've got to get some sleep. Heading to the Cowboys/Packers game manana!

@LuckyGTR123 good to see you back and you say you would start TRT LOG right? so please start one today
i posted directions here click below
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...r-safe-cycle-question-long.97300/post-1458730

and the game you better put up some good Cowboys pics I dont support packers lol

 

[ballin2504]

I'd rather shave it off than use Fina

Same with me brother

 

[25homes]

This is a good bulk cycle and the doses are were they should be I like this set up

 

[Noah Wixx]

Guys got you covered

 

[LuckyGTR123]

Log started at : https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-future-blast-log-with-history.97388/