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Test E/Deca Cycle

94KING

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Hey guys,

About to start my 3rd cycle, Test E/Deca. Needing some guidance and opinions.

First cycle: Test E 500 p/w
Second cycle: Test E 500/Tren E 300 p/w
Third cycle:

W1-12 Test E 500
W1-10 Deca 300-400 (is this long enough to run deca on this proposed dosage as i’m aware it takes a very long time to fully saturate)
I plan on cruising on test cyp after between 100-200mg per week.

Stats:
Age - 29
Height - 178cm
Weight - 81kg/178.5lbs
BF - Roughly 10%
Diet - 400g carbs/270g protein/60g fats/3250 calories consistent daily. Low sodium.
Goal - Bulk to 90kg-95kg with minimal gain in body fat as possible.

12 years training on and off. As of just under 3 months ago I started going all in on gym again, consistently eating the macronutrient amounts mentioned above and taking on a more intensity-based workout approach. In just under 3 months I have gained from 74kg/163lbs to 81kgs/178.5lbs, I credit this to muscle memory and consistency with diet and training. My test levels are low-ish at 300 (tested recently), I believe the Test/Tren/PCT I used in my last cycle from a ugl was very poor quality and perhaps this has something to do with it. I want to cruise on a low test cyp dose after this cycle as I don’t believe there is much point me doing PCT just to potentially go back to 300 - correct me if i’m wrong or your opinions.

So, my questions and thoughts for my test/deca cycle are as follows:

I’m looking at starting deca on 300 and upping to 400 based on how I react, would it be smarter to do test at 500 or keep it lower at 250-300 with this deca dosage? I have heard conflicting opinions although I know everyone is different.

Should I look at adding 25-50mg proviron ed? I have heard it is a must with 19-nors.

What on-cycle supplements should I look at taking? At the moment i’m looking at 4g fish oil daily, lipid stabil, beetroot powder and n2guard. Will the n2guard be necessary as this isn’t exactly a “heavy” stack?

How often should I get my bloodwork on this cycle? Weeks 4, 8 and 12?

Thanks for advice boys, if I can think of anything else i’ll comment it in.
 
Hey guys,

About to start my 3rd cycle, Test E/Deca. Needing some guidance and opinions.

First cycle: Test E 500 p/w
Second cycle: Test E 500/Tren E 300 p/w
Third cycle:

W1-12 Test E 500
W1-10 Deca 300-400 (is this long enough to run deca on this proposed dosage as i’m aware it takes a very long time to fully saturate)
I plan on cruising on test cyp after between 100-200mg per week.

Stats:
Age - 29
Height - 178cm
Weight - 81kg/178.5lbs
BF - Roughly 10%
Diet - 400g carbs/270g protein/60g fats/3250 calories consistent daily. Low sodium.
Goal - Bulk to 90kg-95kg with minimal gain in body fat as possible.

12 years training on and off. As of just under 3 months ago I started going all in on gym again, consistently eating the macronutrient amounts mentioned above and taking on a more intensity-based workout approach. In just under 3 months I have gained from 74kg/163lbs to 81kgs/178.5lbs, I credit this to muscle memory and consistency with diet and training. My test levels are low-ish at 300 (tested recently), I believe the Test/Tren/PCT I used in my last cycle from a ugl was very poor quality and perhaps this has something to do with it. I want to cruise on a low test cyp dose after this cycle as I don’t believe there is much point me doing PCT just to potentially go back to 300 - correct me if i’m wrong or your opinions.

So, my questions and thoughts for my test/deca cycle are as follows:

I’m looking at starting deca on 300 and upping to 400 based on how I react, would it be smarter to do test at 500 or keep it lower at 250-300 with this deca dosage? I have heard conflicting opinions although I know everyone is different.

Should I look at adding 25-50mg proviron ed? I have heard it is a must with 19-nors.

What on-cycle supplements should I look at taking? At the moment i’m looking at 4g fish oil daily, lipid stabil, beetroot powder and n2guard. Will the n2guard be necessary as this isn’t exactly a “heavy” stack?

How often should I get my bloodwork on this cycle? Weeks 4, 8 and 12?

Thanks for advice boys, if I can think of anything else i’ll comment it in.
@94KING welcome to the EVO family! you're in the right place for help.

Your cycle, deca usually would be lower dose under 300 if you want to add it on top of testosterone with proviron but hard to say, you do need organ support liver support so get n2guard for sure, its a must to stay healthy.

Supps n2guard with fish oil and vitamin D, C stacked on top to start but again see below.

Since you just got back into it 3 months ago, I would start by talking in more details about your situation. You do understand that we know nothing about you, right? like really nothing much at all. If you want real help, like actual cycle prep help from the community, you need to share with us. How do you share with us? well easy, start a NEW thread with your LOG journal diary you are doing today, post up your current (not future planned) diet, training , cardio , sleep and more history on cycling. We can work with you in the journal to guide you into a full cycle.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Cycle Prep Training Diet Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here is a good template on a workout log to follow:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/workout-log-template.99224/

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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make sure you get that log started
you sound like a cool dude and welcome
 
if i was you i would head over to ugfreak and grab some proviron
that works well in any cycle
 
I would definitely do the test at 300 in case you have estrogen issues
and yes proviron is smart to use
 
put up your log for sure
also where did you see proviron is important? just curious where people get their info
 
a log Journal will be crucial
will be important to eat correctly on this cycle for best results
 
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my suggestion is doing moderate testosterone if you're a good reactor to it
if you're not then run a lower dose
 
make sure you get your long Journal going once you decide what to do
and i agree with the guys above, proviron is a must :)
 
i just put out a video today on bloodwork importance... you should be getting PRE, MID and POST cycle bloodwork

 
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