Test, mast, anavar, tren cycle help

[Dan98]

Starting my summer cut in November and want some advice on the best way to run it and what support to use other than the obvious n2guard.

6 foot 220lbs and 15-18%bf at the moment but im going to cut a little bit while on cruise until i start the cycle.

Weeks 1-16 test e 500
Week 1-16 mast e 400
Week 6-12 Anavar 50mg a day

And I would like to incorporate a low dose of tren ace and im wondering on the best way to incorporate it. Id like to add it in for some summer events to take my physique to the next level for a few weeks. Im thinking add it in after i drop the anavar at week 12 and run it until week 16. I blast and cruise so using it to end the cycle wont be an issue with pct. But im open to advice.

 

[stevesmi]

i would do the tren ace 8 weeks and i would drop the masteron completley

masteron is pointless at your body fat. need to be sub 11%

 

[Dan98]

i would do the tren ace 8 weeks and i would drop the masteron completley

masteron is pointless at your body fat. need to be sub 11%

Thats why i was planning on running the mast throughout the whole cycle because after week 8 ill be approaching 10% and getting the full effects from it. I tend to drop bf really fast when i diet.

 

[stevesmi]

Thats why i was planning on running the mast throughout the whole cycle because after week 8 ill be approaching 10% and getting the full effects from it. I tend to drop bf really fast when i diet.

if that is so will be an interesting log to follow.

 

[Dan98]

if that is so will be an interesting log to follow.

How do you think i should implement the tren?

 

[dylangemelli]

i would certainly not run a 16 week cycle.. you are not getting added benefits running past 12 weeks but you certainly are adding to issues that could come up, especially with a much longer recovery.. you are adding 4 weeks of unnecessary side effects, that over time, will really hurt you.. the goal here is to get as much as you can in the safest way and recover properly etc... while hoping to keep as much as possible.. the longer the cycle, the MUCH harder it is to keep any of the gains you are making because the recovery is far longer...

if you are wanting to run long esters here as you have down already, then go 12 weeks, and run tren ace 8 weeks with it.. ideally, your test and tren doses would be closer together in terms of how much.. i certainly would not go with 400-500 mg of tren.. i would go with 250/300 each...

the better way to run this would be all short esters, keeping them at 8 weeks total and running anavar the last 6 weeks of the cycle.. you do it however you are comfortable or feel you want to but ive been doing this well over a decade and coached so major athletes and bodybuilders, so i have a pretty good feel on how to go about this

 

[LittleTimeTrouble]

i would certainly not run a 16 week cycle.. you are not getting added benefits running past 12 weeks but you certainly are adding to issues that could come up, especially with a much longer recovery.. you are adding 4 weeks of unnecessary side effects, that over time, will really hurt you.. the goal here is to get as much as you can in the safest way and recover properly etc... while hoping to keep as much as possible.. the longer the cycle, the MUCH harder it is to keep any of the gains you are making because the recovery is far longer...

if you are wanting to run long esters here as you have down already, then go 12 weeks, and run tren ace 8 weeks with it.. ideally, your test and tren doses would be closer together in terms of how much.. i certainly would not go with 400-500 mg of tren.. i would go with 250/300 each...

the better way to run this would be all short esters, keeping them at 8 weeks total and running anavar the last 6 weeks of the cycle.. you do it however you are comfortable or feel you want to but ive been doing this well over a decade and coached so major athletes and bodybuilders, so i have a pretty good feel on how to go about this

Is there anything you would run at 16 weeks? I think I remember you in the past being cool with Primo + Test at moderate doses for that long. Has your thinking on that changed?

 

[Dan98]

i would certainly not run a 16 week cycle.. you are not getting added benefits running past 12 weeks but you certainly are adding to issues that could come up, especially with a much longer recovery.. you are adding 4 weeks of unnecessary side effects, that over time, will really hurt you.. the goal here is to get as much as you can in the safest way and recover properly etc... while hoping to keep as much as possible.. the longer the cycle, the MUCH harder it is to keep any of the gains you are making because the recovery is far longer...

if you are wanting to run long esters here as you have down already, then go 12 weeks, and run tren ace 8 weeks with it.. ideally, your test and tren doses would be closer together in terms of how much.. i certainly would not go with 400-500 mg of tren.. i would go with 250/300 each...

the better way to run this would be all short esters, keeping them at 8 weeks total and running anavar the last 6 weeks of the cycle.. you do it however you are comfortable or feel you want to but ive been doing this well over a decade and coached so major athletes and bodybuilders, so i have a pretty good feel on how to go about this

To be honest your right because iv recently finished my winter bulk of test, dbol and deca for 16 weeks and iv had no gains since week 11-12 so ill stick to 12 in future. Im planning on cruising for a couple months and putting myself into a slight calorie deficit on the cruise (250mg) so i can start the cutting cycle at a lower BF. I already have all the compounds and i dont want to waste the mast. How exactly should i design the cycle with the mast in also as i want to peak at week 10-12 for mid summer. And how can i maintain it for another 4-6weeks once the cycle is over?

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

@Dan98 you should be posting your cycle in your log
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-test-dbol-deca-proviron-bulking-cycle.90730

Starting my summer cut in November and want some advice on the best way to run it and what support to use other than the obvious n2guard.

6 foot 220lbs and 15-18%bf at the moment but im going to cut a little bit while on cruise until i start the cycle.

Weeks 1-16 test e 500
Week 1-16 mast e 400
Week 6-12 Anavar 50mg a day

And I would like to incorporate a low dose of tren ace and im wondering on the best way to incorporate it. Id like to add it in for some summer events to take my physique to the next level for a few weeks. Im thinking add it in after i drop the anavar at week 12 and run it until week 16. I blast and cruise so using it to end the cycle wont be an issue with pct. But im open to advice.

@Dan98 before we talk this cycle you haven't updated any training in your log, you havent updated diet nothing, I mean what do you expect us to do just guess what you need to get results? bro seriously, please open notes and start logging and update log before you talk about using trenbolone or anavar or masteron.

 

[Dan98]

@Dan98 you should be posting your cycle in your log
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-test-dbol-deca-proviron-bulking-cycle.90730


@Dan98 before we talk this cycle you haven't updated any training in your log, you havent updated diet nothing, I mean what do you expect us to do just guess what you need to get results? bro seriously, please open notes and start logging and update log before you talk about using trenbolone or anavar or masteron.

Okay ill set a log of diet and training for my last bulking cycle. And what im currently doing in a cruise.

 

[LevButlerov]

Okay ill set a log of diet and training for my last bulking cycle. And what im currently doing in a cruise.

@Dan98 lets see that cruise log updated and where you're at before we throw gear at you

 

[JasonPriest]

yes let's see what you are made of

 

[RickRock]

Id run primo instead of masteron in your situation

 

[ceo]

bros @Dan98 lets update log more before cycles

 

[ROIDDERS]

i think your log needs work before new cycles

 

[Dan98]

bros @Dan98 lets update log more before cycles

Will do

 

[chesty]

@Dan98 log more updates and we plan the cycle together

 

[Dan98]

Will do, ill continue to log my cruise and update my bulking log with more info

 

[Dan98]

@Dan98 log more updates and we plan the cycle together

Will do, ill continue to log my cruise and update my bulking log with more info

 

[Mobster]

Thats why i was planning on running the mast throughout the whole cycle because after week 8 ill be approaching 10% and getting the full effects from it. I tend to drop bf really fast when i diet.

So diet first then add in the PEDs