Test + mast cycle

[AE1079]

@chop09333 I like that ratio from experience but you can boost 300:300 test:mast but start with 300/200 and can move up
lets first start the LOG going man then we move from there

Do you have reasoning for a 200 mast instead of 300? He’s a high aromatiser.. 200 won’t do much and will waste time. If he needs 12.5 mg aromasin he will need at least 300-400 mast to get any prolific effect on target cells.

Please give OP good backing behind 200mast 300 test. Justify it and actually help instead throwing out arbitrary numbers. Don’t bro science it.

 

[AE1079]

@chop09333 I have just read bloods and E2 was still high on aromasin. I suggest you start on 300mg for any effect. Aromasin is made for blocking e2 at the receptor site and to remove aromatise enzyme . If you can’t lower to mid range with that then you will need higher mast to get some benefit out of it.

Watch your liver, ALT and AST is high on cycle. Ensure you reduces trans fats and sugar. Clean the diet up for sure, supplement with Tudca, milk thistle and dandelion root for bile flow to break down fats from the liver, this will relieve the pressure from the gall bladder to.

@Eddie Haskell what else you suggest according to his bloods mate? Anything that stands out to your expertise champ?

 

[chop09333]

@chop09333 I have just read bloods and E2 was still high on aromasin. I suggest you start on 300mg for any effect. Aromasin is made for blocking e2 at the receptor site and to remove aromatise enzyme . If you can’t lower to mid range with that then you will need higher mast to get some benefit out of it.

Watch your liver, ALT and AST is high on cycle. Ensure you reduces trans fats and sugar. Clean the diet up for sure, supplement with Tudca, milk thistle and dandelion root for bile flow to break down fats from the liver, this will relieve the pressure from the gall bladder to.

@Eddie Haskell what else you suggest according to his bloods mate? Anything that stands out to your expertise champ?

From what i gathered the bloods are saying "below 100" and not giving a specific reading under that. Am I not wrong on that one?

 

[AE1079]

From what i gathered the bloods are saying "below 100" and not giving a specific reading under that. Am I not wrong on that one?

I saw that, that’s poor from the labs.

Midrange is about 30-50 in males.

How did you feel on cycle the last time? Moods good? Pumps good? Johnson working? Joints not achey? Not depressed?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Do you have reasoning for a 200 mast instead of 300? He’s a high aromatiser.. 200 won’t do much and will waste time. If he needs 12.5 mg aromasin he will need at least 300-400 mast to get any prolific effect on target cells.

Please give OP good backing behind 200mast 300 test. Justify it and actually help instead throwing out arbitrary numbers. Don’t bro science it.

yes very good reason, do you have a reason why he should do more? I dont see the need @AE1079
200mgs masteron is enough of an anti-estrogen, and if he needs more he can adjust, instead of crashing his E2 and causing serious sides

aromasin is a better option for estrogen control instead of using steroids which are anti-estrogenic but far from an ai

 

[chop09333]

I saw that, that’s poor from the labs.

Midrange is about 30-50 in males.

How did you feel on cycle the last time? Moods good? Pumps good? Johnson working? Joints not achey? Not depressed?

Yeah was all good other than the spicy nips, fluid retention. Fluid didn't seem to be building up anywhere in particular though. I did take more aromasin in an effort to get rid of the spicy nips and then I got achy joints and felt a bit rough. Two days later I got a sensitive e2 done and came back at 115. So that tells you just how quick my e2 comes up.

 

[chop09333]

yes very good reason, do you have a reason why he should do more? I dont see the need @AE1079
200mgs masteron is enough of an anti-estrogen, and if he needs more he can adjust, instead of crashing his E2 and causing serious sides

aromasin is a better option for estrogen control instead of using steroids which are anti-estrogenic but far from an ai

Without getting in the middle here, in my case I'd have to say I think 1:1 will be ok. I'm a ridiculously high aromatiser, and once my e2 comes up, I can't get rid of the spicy nips without tamoxifen, and I have pre-existing gyno. So I'd risk the low e2. Don't get me wrong, I still want to hear your advice aswell bro.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Without getting in the middle here, in my case I'd have to say I think 1:1 will be ok. I'm a ridiculously high aromatiser, and once my e2 comes up, I can't get rid of the spicy nips without tamoxifen, and I have pre-existing gyno. So I'd risk the low e2. Don't get me wrong, I still want to hear your advice aswell bro.

thats fine as well you can do 1:1 but you should be using Aromasin instead of just trying to level out with masteron @chop09333
at least light dose, especially you have pre existing gyno, masteron will not control E2 to that level

 

[chop09333]

thats fine as well you can do 1:1 but you should be using Aromasin instead of just trying to level out with masteron @chop09333
at least light dose, especially you have pre existing gyno, masteron will not control E2 to that level

Oh I will be bro. I'll be starting with aromasin aswell, and if I get low e2 sides, then so be it. I'll taper the aromasin back from there. I bounce back quick anyway.

 

[Mobster]

Hi all.

My apologies about going MIA on my first cycle log. In the end I did drop to 250mg test and I suppose it went OK. That put my bloods at around 2000 pmol/l and it went OK. Although I still had spicy nips and was chasing down e2 the whole time with aromasin.

I'm cycling down to 150 test now, and thinking about running a cycle a bit differently next time. Which won't be far away I imagine, because my bloods are almost in check.

I'm thinking of running 400 test and 400 mast to combat the heavy aromatizing and keep fluid down for just hard gains.

Would like to hear any advice or ideas. Also can I pin test c and mast e in the same barrel.

Thanks fellas.

Be consistent

 

[RoidRage69]

Do you take Kratom or any other mind altering meds or herbs? You drink booze?

 

[chop09333]

Do you take Kratom or any other mind altering meds or herbs? You drink booze?

No nothing these days. I was taking st johns wort, but have stopped completely now. I think your asking due to the gyno. I had pubertal gyno, that is now just small hard to detect lumps. Also took anti depressants throughput my early twentys (I'm 31 now) and have drank my fair share of beer in the past too. As I'm cutting weight over the last week I look down at my chest and it's better already. I think once I get leaner it will help any problems I'm having there as well as look better. There's no big lumps right under the nips, so I don't think it'll stand out more.

 

[zedhed]

at the end of the day it's all about flexibility
and it's all about listening to your blood work

 

[caligirl85]

the guys above gave you great advice
but we really recommend a log

 

[Shrine]

the thing is about a log is it will help you avoid mistakes
once you get things started we'll be able to help you

 

[Zyglamail]

test and masteron work great together
it but keep in mind everybody will be a little different so adjustments will need to be made

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

LOG APPROVED - PLEASE POST A LOG

 

[Arabian]

Hey Brother make sure you put up a log
this way we can give you the best tips and tricks

 

[BookerTNY]

you'll be fine on masteron and test
1:1 ratio is generic so you will need to adjust it as you go

 

[sambee38]

you can always run prop esters on both
this will give you added flexibility