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Testicular atrophy on TRT

monkeyjim

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Hey all,
I am new here and I have just started trt.
I live in Australia and after about 6 years I finally got help from a TRT clinic after feeling like crap for years. Doctor wouldn;t help as they kept saying i was in the "normal range" Australia seems to be happy to let men just fizzle out. It's awful here.

total test - 11nmol/L (range is 10-30)
free test - 236pmol/L (range is 150-700)
shbg - 26 nmol/L (range (13-71)
oestradiol 75 pmol/L (range >150)

Had all the symptoms - everything was a struggle, low libido, brain fog, despite working out regularly, eating well.
I'm 6'4" 94kg @ about 12/13 % body fat.

anyway, a trt clinic has prescribed me 10mg/week test enanthate, which I am taking 50mg twice p/week. I am concerned that the trt clinic will get shut down(as they seem to do here) but I will have to deal with that if/when it happens. I just had to do something about the way I was feeling.

My concern is the testicular atrophy thing. I have a varicocele in my left testicle so it is already atrophied. I don't want them getting much smaller.

Once I get my test levels dialed in, do you think i could run proviron with it. I believe that can help some men with this.
Any information you could provide would be much appreciated.
 
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Hey all,
I am new here and I have just started trt.
I live in Australia and after about 6 years I finally got help from a TRT clinic after feeling like crap for years. Doctor wouldn;t help as they kept saying i was in the "normal range" Australia seems to be happy to let men just fizzle out. It's awful here.

total test - 11nmol/L (range is 10-30)
free test - 236pmol/L (range is 150-700)
shbg - 26 nmol/L (range (13-71)
oestradiol 75 pmol/L (range >150)

Had all the symptoms - everything was a struggle, low libido, brain fog, despite working out regularly, eating well.
I'm 6'4" 94kg @ about 12/13 % body fat.

anyway, a trt clinic has prescribed me 10mg/week test enanthate, which I am taking 50mg twice p/week. I am concerned that the trt clinic will get shut down(as they seem to do here) but I will have to deal with that if/when it happens. I just had to do something about the way I was feeling.

My concern is the testicular atrophy thing. I have a varicocele in my left testicle so it is already atrophied. I don't want them getting much smaller.

Once I get my test levels dialed in, do you think i could run proviron with it. I believe that can help some men with this.
Any information you could provide would be much appreciated.
i understand your pain, i also live is aus.
My test was total 8.2 free 197. What clinic did you end up using. I found the prices they are charging are stupid. Prior to starting my trt i believe my nuts had already shrunk. I was asked by a doc in the ED if i was using steriods as they did a herina test. Since starting trt i havent found that they have shrunk anymore.

If you want to chat feel free to msg privately as well, i would just see how they go. From what i have gathered from talking to people they generally shrink a bit not not super small. But then that may also depend on the amount of gear you are using.
 
@FeAr_mE - Thanks for you reply mate. and thanks for the offer to chat.

I went with Enhanced Male Clinic. so far they have been really good. My only concern is if they go out of business, then I'll be sort of hung out to dry in terms of sourcing the test and in general support. fortunately there seems to be great online communities for support and advice.
Yes, prices are expensive, but I would prefer to do this under medical supervision if possible, so there was little other option.

ok. I'll just continue with the protocol until I have to do another blood test which is in about 8 weeks and get the test part dialled in first and see how I feel and if there are any other sides before introducing any other elements. Blood pressure and hematocrit are ones I am also concerned about but I'll wait and see how it all goes.
 
@FeAr_mE - Thanks for you reply mate. and thanks for the offer to chat.

I went with Enhanced Male Clinic. so far they have been really good. My only concern is if they go out of business, then I'll be sort of hung out to dry in terms of sourcing the test and in general support. fortunately there seems to be great online communities for support and advice.
Yes, prices are expensive, but I would prefer to do this under medical supervision if possible, so there was little other option.

ok. I'll just continue with the protocol until I have to do another blood test which is in about 8 weeks and get the test part dialled in first and see how I feel and if there are any other sides before introducing any other elements. Blood pressure and hematocrit are ones I am also concerned about but I'll wait and see how it all goes.
I wouldnt be too stressed about those, the bloods will sort it out, and the doctor will keep a close eye on it for you. If your stressed about your BP just go down to the chemist and grab a bp machine, youcan get them for around $100 and self check every week. I know guys who do it twice a week. If you see something your concerned about then you just give the doc a call and discuss.

from memory asprin can be a good blood thinner, 99% sure all the oldies in the homes get a daily dose to help with this. If it does creep up you can either do a blood dump eg give blood or the doc will prescribe something like warfin i think it is to help.

As your through a clinic your in good hands. the guys here are really good as well. Lets say the worst happens and they shut down, you go through the process again with another clinic, if theres a delay you can always get a vial of test from a source. Theres a few really good ones here in Aus.

The thing i would be doing is taking notes when talking to the doctor,ask heaps of questions. i think the worst part about TRT is the jab twice a week, it does get very eh its time again. Im assuming you get all your needs(syringes etc) from the clinic if not just go down to your local clean needle program. They will supply everything for free. Only shady part is from time to time you may run into a junkie
 
Hey all,
I am new here and I have just started trt.
I live in Australia and after about 6 years I finally got help from a TRT clinic after feeling like crap for years. Doctor wouldn;t help as they kept saying i was in the "normal range" Australia seems to be happy to let men just fizzle out. It's awful here.

total test - 11nmol/L (range is 10-30)
free test - 236pmol/L (range is 150-700)
shbg - 26 nmol/L (range (13-71)
oestradiol 75 pmol/L (range >150)

Had all the symptoms - everything was a struggle, low libido, brain fog, despite working out regularly, eating well.
I'm 6'4" 94kg @ about 12/13 % body fat.

anyway, a trt clinic has prescribed me 10mg/week test enanthate, which I am taking 50mg twice p/week. I am concerned that the trt clinic will get shut down(as they seem to do here) but I will have to deal with that if/when it happens. I just had to do something about the way I was feeling.

My concern is the testicular atrophy thing. I have a varicocele in my left testicle so it is already atrophied. I don't want them getting much smaller.

Once I get my test levels dialed in, do you think i could run proviron with it. I believe that can help some men with this.
Any information you could provide would be much appreciated.
@FeAr_mE - Thanks for you reply mate. and thanks for the offer to chat.

I went with Enhanced Male Clinic. so far they have been really good. My only concern is if they go out of business, then I'll be sort of hung out to dry in terms of sourcing the test and in general support. fortunately there seems to be great online communities for support and advice.
Yes, prices are expensive, but I would prefer to do this under medical supervision if possible, so there was little other option.

ok. I'll just continue with the protocol until I have to do another blood test which is in about 8 weeks and get the test part dialled in first and see how I feel and if there are any other sides before introducing any other elements. Blood pressure and hematocrit are ones I am also concerned about but I'll wait and see how it all goes.
@monkeyjim welcome to the evolutionary.org family. Your situation is normal, men are having to suffer because of nonsense laws. Lets face it, you're a prime lifetime candidate for TRT but that can be cut any day.

I suggest you go on Self-TRT and add a sports-TRT cycle on top of it but before you go adding proviron or other steroids we need to know more about you. We need to know more about your TRT and what you're doing now so we can help you push into self-TRT.
Start a NEW thead with your LOG journal diary for TRT, add your diet training supps and more so we can actually support you and guide you into a cycle or blast.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/princedaddy-2023-log-here-we-go-again.87659/
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
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Hey all,
I am new here and I have just started trt.
I live in Australia and after about 6 years I finally got help from a TRT clinic after feeling like crap for years. Doctor wouldn;t help as they kept saying i was in the "normal range" Australia seems to be happy to let men just fizzle out. It's awful here.

total test - 11nmol/L (range is 10-30)
free test - 236pmol/L (range is 150-700)
shbg - 26 nmol/L (range (13-71)
oestradiol 75 pmol/L (range >150)

Had all the symptoms - everything was a struggle, low libido, brain fog, despite working out regularly, eating well.
I'm 6'4" 94kg @ about 12/13 % body fat.

anyway, a trt clinic has prescribed me 10mg/week test enanthate, which I am taking 50mg twice p/week. I am concerned that the trt clinic will get shut down(as they seem to do here) but I will have to deal with that if/when it happens. I just had to do something about the way I was feeling.

My concern is the testicular atrophy thing. I have a varicocele in my left testicle so it is already atrophied. I don't want them getting much smaller.

Once I get my test levels dialed in, do you think i could run proviron with it. I believe that can help some men with this.
Any information you could provide would be much appreciated.
proviron fine with it. if taking 100mg weekly you should feel good
 
you can feel better and you can always just do self trt
it's important to remember trt isn't always the end-all for people that they think many of your symptoms might have nothing to do with testosterone levels
 
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Hey all,
I am new here and I have just started trt.
I live in Australia and after about 6 years I finally got help from a TRT clinic after feeling like crap for years. Doctor wouldn;t help as they kept saying i was in the "normal range" Australia seems to be happy to let men just fizzle out. It's awful here.

total test - 11nmol/L (range is 10-30)
free test - 236pmol/L (range is 150-700)
shbg - 26 nmol/L (range (13-71)
oestradiol 75 pmol/L (range >150)

Had all the symptoms - everything was a struggle, low libido, brain fog, despite working out regularly, eating well.
I'm 6'4" 94kg @ about 12/13 % body fat.

anyway, a trt clinic has prescribed me 10mg/week test enanthate, which I am taking 50mg twice p/week. I am concerned that the trt clinic will get shut down(as they seem to do here) but I will have to deal with that if/when it happens. I just had to do something about the way I was feeling.

My concern is the testicular atrophy thing. I have a varicocele in my left testicle so it is already atrophied. I don't want them getting much smaller.

Once I get my test levels dialed in, do you think i could run proviron with it. I believe that can help some men with this.
Any information you could provide would be much appreciated.
Did you mean 100mg?
 
Bros trt clinics get shut down cause they are scammers for most part
just do it on your own
 
run some hcgenerate
that will cure your balls being tiny
 
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very excited to see a log Journal be put up
we are waiting to see it from you
 
we can track your progress just post it up
log log log, we are waiting for it
 
Thanks so much for the advice and info guys. I really appreciate it.

The clinic I am with at the moment is really good so far, so I will see it through with them until it is no longer possible.
I would prefer to do this under the supervision of a doctor and receive genuine pharma grade test, but it is very relieving to know that there is a supportive community out there. did not expect this response. big relief. Thank you all.

I have already reached out to one of the aussie sources found here and I have some extra Test E coming as a back up. (cheaper too I might add)

currently the clinic has me taking 100mg Test E p/week. I divide that up into two 50mg doses, monday and Thursday. I'll run this until I feel good again before introducing anything else.

I will gather the necessary data, read some of the example logs and start my own log as suggested.
 
Thanks so much for the advice and info guys. I really appreciate it.

The clinic I am with at the moment is really good so far, so I will see it through with them until it is no longer possible.
I would prefer to do this under the supervision of a doctor and receive genuine pharma grade test, but it is very relieving to know that there is a supportive community out there. did not expect this response. big relief. Thank you all.

I have already reached out to one of the aussie sources found here and I have some extra Test E coming as a back up. (cheaper too I might add)

currently the clinic has me taking 100mg Test E p/week. I divide that up into two 50mg doses, monday and Thursday. I'll run this until I feel good again before introducing anything else.

I will gather the necessary data, read some of the example logs and start my own log as suggested.
@monkeyjim lets see you start your LOG, you can start it now dont need to wait for it.
 
If they get you in what your base test should be you can run through them and if they go out of business you will already know where you need to be and just do self trt
 
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