Approved Log Testosterone Cypionate + proviron cycle Log

[chop09333]

go with 250mgs testosterone and start 6.25mgs aromasin to level it out to start off

waiting on training updates @chop09333

Training

I've copy, pasted and edited mate.

Lat pull down, not quite as wide as most due to shoulder - 77 - 66kg, 4 sets 10-12 reps

Tbar row machine - 4 sets 40kg, 12 reps

Cable row dd handle - 4 sets, 66kg, 12, 14 reps

Shrugs Smith machine - 4 sets 80kg, 12-16 reps

Rear delts on pec deck - 4 sets 25 - 20kg, 12 reps (this machine is different. A little weight is alot.)

Dumbell curls, lent back on bench using both arms, fairly strict form here - 15kg - 12.5kg 3 sets 10-12 reps

Hammer curls - 15kg - 12.5kg 3 sets 12-10 reps


Barbell curls - 30 - 20kg, 12 reps

 

[Mobster]

So I've been taking 12.5 eod aromasin. And it's rolled me twice now. These bloods were taken 5 days with no ai. I think that might be why it was too high there. I'm pretty certain 12.5 eod was too much. I'll most likely be cutting the dose back to 250mg test tomorrow.

What number e2 should I be going for? Is within the reference range okay?

Those reps are just what I've always done man. Do you think I should be shooting for 15 reps?

Yes.

And on the reps - doing what you've always done is what keeps you as you are. Wanna change? Either alter the reps or add weight

 

[chop09333]

Yes.

And on the reps - doing what you've always done is what keeps you as you are. Wanna change? Either alter the reps or add weight

Oh I'm up 20% or more weight on most things I always set a weight that I will fail on between 8-12. I'm the type to set the weight higher and drop a little each set if I need to. Maybe I could've said that better.

 

[chop09333]

Photos of nips right now. Still no better. I'm tearing my hair out here. I can't even think straight anymore. I'm just all over the shop. Should I just pct and be done with it?

 

[RoidRage69]

You claimed you had gyno before you started the cycle. What makes you think it will get better? You're just trying to stop it from getting worse which is what you're doing. PCT will not make it better.

Even I have it and surgery is the only way to get rid of it.

 

[chop09333]

You claimed you had gyno before you started the cycle. What makes you think it will get better? You're just trying to stop it from getting worse which is what you're doing. PCT will not make it better.

Even I have it and surgery is the only way to get rid of it.

I had gyno, as in lumps as a teen. But haven't heard from it since mate. My nipples have been on fire for weeks and I can feel lumps that I didn't know were there anymore. The nolva isn't even making a difference, other than possibly sending me mental. The situation is getting out of control.

 

[chop09333]

You claimed you had gyno before you started the cycle. What makes you think it will get better? You're just trying to stop it from getting worse which is what you're doing. PCT will not make it better.

Even I have it and surgery is the only way to get rid of it.

I hear what your saying about managing it, but in not sure what will. It's getting out of control. As is my cognitive function. That could be any number of things at this point, I'm thinking nolva, but who really knows. Seriously I'm trying to run a business with the cognitive function of a methhead right now

 

[RoidRage69]

If your so worried this is what I would do if it was me. I would go on 200 Test and 200 Masteron per week. That should keep your nipples fine and it would be a good easy stack with low sides and good solid gains that will not go away. It will be lean gains. Masteron was originally made as an AI for females with breast cancer. It works fairly well at keeping estrogen side effects at bay and will also harden you up in more than one way. LOL.

 

[chop09333]

If your so worried this is what I would do if it was me. I would go on 200 Test and 200 Masteron per week. That should keep your nipples fine and it would be a good easy stack with low sides and good solid gains that will not go away. It will be lean gains. Masteron was originally made as an AI for females with breast cancer. It works fairly well at keeping estrogen side effects at bay and will also harden you up in more than one way. LOL.

Makes sense. To be honest I might not even sleep tonight at all. Thats where I'm at right now. I'm just gonna come off man. I can appreciate what your saying, but I'm gonna prioritise my health over gains right now. I can't function anymore.

 

[RoidRage69]

Makes sense. To be honest I might not even sleep tonight at all. Thats where I'm at right now. I'm just gonna come off man. I can appreciate what your saying, but I'm gonna prioritise my health over gains right now. I can't function anymore.

What ever you decide will the correct decision. No reason to beat yourself up over it so do what you need to do. Lack of sleep and worries suck.

I do think you need to check into getting surgery done. If you have insurance that will cover it the better. Just look into it and talk to your doctor about it.

 

[JasonPriest]

you need to adjust your AI to what Best Suits You
at the end of the day blood work is going to tell the tale

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro don't worry about the estrogen
over time you'll learn your body and know what you need

 

[Quadsweep]

some guys are very sensitive to estrogen issues
and some guys can run 500 mg of testosterone without an AI

 

[Austin316]

I do think there's some mental aspect
but at the same time estrogen issues are very scary

 

[sambee38]

at the end of the day the blood work is what's going to tell us the truth
instead of guessing and being paranoid

 

[BookerTNY]

if you've had existing estrogen problems
then they will get worse on cycle

 

[Arabian]

here is what I would recommend
don't use testosterone when you use steroids

 

[Zyglamail]

stay away from anything that can cause estrogen issues
test, anadrol, dbol, etc

 

[Shrine]

yeah use primo or even EQ
those are good options and they don't aromatize into estrogen

 

[caligirl85]

I think the guys above gave you some good advice
I don't like estrogen as a female either