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Approved Log Testosterone eq npp growth phase blast cycle Log

Telmisartan doesn’t work for me, I’ve tried it at 80mg a day and didn’t do nothing for me.

I’m gonna be draining some blood also tonight as eq raises hemo levels so that will help aswel.

Cardio is daily and I have stopped Creatine aswel as salts pre workout.
Cardio daily is a good way to control BP.
 
Cardio daily is a good way to control BP.
Could it just be also the fact I’m gaining weight as my calories are going up? I do plan on increasing my aromasin to 25mg eod as my face has gotten slightly more puffier. Breathing is still normal and the only time I feel a little out of breath is after some meals not all the time cause I crammed it down.

I also am going to drain some blood tonight as I know eq would have raised hemo levels and might take baby asprin too.

I informed my coach and he has told me to increase cardio or increase aromasin, he said the only thing is he wants to wait 4 to 5 weeks before upping aromasin to get all compounds to hit concentration levels before increasing the aromasin. If that fails we are going to slow down the calorie increase so the body can slowly get use to the food and keep up.
 
Morning - fasted cardio 40Mins powerwalk state cardio

Legs

1: squats
4 sets 100kg/15reps 140kg/12repa 180kg/9reps 180kg/9reps

2: plate loaded single leg extention
3 sets 20kg/15reps 30kg/15reps 40kg/10kg
(Squeezed and slow with negative)

3: dumbbell lunges
2 sets 30kg each hand for the length of the gym and back

4: Hack squat (legs together)
3 sets 40kg/20reps 40kg/20reps 80kg/13reps


Ab work was also done.
 
little info

I am starting to see some veins near abs right side above belly button in the morning and more vascular. I have put on some water but not alot but face is a little puffier and bit smoother (not worried about losing a little definition.

Negatives
1 Rise in blood pressure (currently addressing)
2 Acid reflux Maby once a week
3 Sleep is still good but wake up sometimes middle of the night turning aircon on or off (summer weather in Australia)
4 Sweating a lot more than usual (like a tap)
 
throw up some pics bro
Yeah I plan to but I wanted to do like a before/mid/after into one photo just to show the difference. Tho I can throw up a photo or 2. I’m at work atm but I will Chuck some up soon
 
Could it just be also the fact I’m gaining weight as my calories are going up? I do plan on increasing my aromasin to 25mg eod as my face has gotten slightly more puffier. Breathing is still normal and the only time I feel a little out of breath is after some meals not all the time cause I crammed it down.

I also am going to drain some blood tonight as I know eq would have raised hemo levels and might take baby asprin too.

I informed my coach and he has told me to increase cardio or increase aromasin, he said the only thing is he wants to wait 4 to 5 weeks before upping aromasin to get all compounds to hit concentration levels before increasing the aromasin. If that fails we are going to slow down the calorie increase so the body can slowly get use to the food and keep up.
It could be for sure, but even bigger guys I work with we try to control BP under 130 range 13x/7-8
 
Morning - fasted cardio 40Mins powerwalk state cardio

Legs

1: squats
4 sets 100kg/15reps 140kg/12repa 180kg/9reps 180kg/9reps

2: plate loaded single leg extention
3 sets 20kg/15reps 30kg/15reps 40kg/10kg
(Squeezed and slow with negative)

3: dumbbell lunges
2 sets 30kg each hand for the length of the gym and back

4: Hack squat (legs together)
3 sets 40kg/20reps 40kg/20reps 80kg/13reps


Ab work was also done.

little info

I am starting to see some veins near abs right side above belly button in the morning and more vascular. I have put on some water but not alot but face is a little puffier and bit smoother (not worried about losing a little definition.

Negatives
1 Rise in blood pressure (currently addressing)
2 Acid reflux Maby once a week
3 Sleep is still good but wake up sometimes middle of the night turning aircon on or off (summer weather in Australia)
4 Sweating a lot more than usual (like a tap)

throw up some pics bro

Yeah I plan to but I wanted to do like a before/mid/after into one photo just to show the difference. Tho I can throw up a photo or 2. I’m at work atm but I will Chuck some up soon
Yup agreed with @AE1079 throw up some pics of you looking shredded :D
 
Yup agreed with @AE1079 throw up some pics of you looking shredded :D
Blood pressure is back down to 128/63

Levbutlerov just a quick question.
The bigger guys you know where you try keep their bp as low as you can get them at their weight. Wht are a few things you do?
 
From a supplement side of things, omega-3s, magnesium, CoQ10, telmisartan, etc. Keep the hydration high, limit sodium, eat potassium rich foods and do cardio.
I take all of that minus the telmisartan as it never helped my bp even at 80mg a day. I most likely need something stronger to help with bp if it ever rises. But so far it’s gone back down and sticking to that number which is good.
 
I take all of that minus the telmisartan as it never helped my bp even at 80mg a day. I most likely need something stronger to help with bp if it ever rises. But so far it’s gone back down and sticking to that number which is good.
It comes down to a couple of things, we can take all the meds possible to pull down BP through RAAS System and blocking Angiotensin 2.

not everyone can get their blood pressure down to the gold standard of 120/80, taking all the supplements in the world ect.

When we take any PEDs there is some level of influence on the blood pressure from higher blood volume, higher aldosterone and its mechanism being more hyperactive. Diet and total cardiovascular health can also influence the initial structure of the intrinsic vascular systems. Over time these change with higher doses forcing remodelling of LVH, blood vessels and vascular smooth muscle. Other factors such as plague build up and ROS can play a factor in function of these systems.

So keeping this in mind - we are all at different levels of the above, some people are far down the line and others aren’t which will dictate your BP and response to ACE inhibiting drugs or AG2 modulation. Supplements unfortunately cant change this and it’s a matter of downsizing and even continuing to take these medications to force remodelling.

if your BP is within acceptable ranges for your size then great. The body and the heart does need to work that much harder to pump total volume around the body ( this leads to enlarged hearts for then anything as an adaptation)

@hypogaeum - your suggestions of high potassium foods can cause higher concentrations of potassium in serum while on telmisartan, sure anabolic do transport this potassium through ion channels more efficiently but it can cause a concern in some individuals, just a point to bare in mind 👍🏼
 
I take all of that minus the telmisartan as it never helped my bp even at 80mg a day. I most likely need something stronger to help with bp if it ever rises. But so far it’s gone back down and sticking to that number which is good.
What will bring it down bro is simply downsizing and coming off. Your managing it however with the size and gear you’re on, which is the best possible scenario, if it’s a concern though I would lower total androgen load and focus more on anabolic load and mitochondria health and efficiency.
 
Blood pressure is back down to 128/63

Levbutlerov just a quick question.
The bigger guys you know where you try keep their bp as low as you can get them at their weight. Wht are a few things you do?
This is my point exactly, you’re doing the best you can for your size, and 128/63 is commendable. It comes with the territory of when your over 110kg with lower then average body fat. I can’t keep mine below 131/78 some days it’s 128/76 which is fine, as long as kidney function is maintained.

Just stay away from your wet compounds and don’t gain too much fat in your offseason or eat like a dickhead 😂
 
This is my point exactly, you’re doing the best you can for your size, and 128/63 is commendable. It comes with the territory of when your over 110kg with lower then average body fat. I can’t keep mine below 131/78 some days it’s 128/76 which is fine, as long as kidney function is maintained.

Just stay away from your wet compounds and don’t gain too much fat in your offseason or eat like a dickhead 😂
Lmaoooo I haven’t had a cheat meal in like 7 months and everything is fresh with no bs processed food or any crap so that’s one good thing.

Kidneys have always been 100% even with last bloods, liver was also good and cholesterol. Hemo level for thick blood was in the high end of normal levels but since draining 350mls I feel good again.

I honestly try keep health priortity over gains as I don’t want to be that one dixkhead who prefers gains over health.
 

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@hypogaeum - your suggestions of high potassium foods can cause higher concentrations of potassium in serum while on telmisartan, sure anabolic do transport this potassium through ion channels more efficiently but it can cause a concern in some individuals, just a point to bare in mind 👍🏼
This is true- best to reduce potassium if on Telmisartan, but if it’s not in use, potassium might help a little.
 
Lmaoooo I haven’t had a cheat meal in like 7 months and everything is fresh with no bs processed food or any crap so that’s one good thing.

Kidneys have always been 100% even with last bloods, liver was also good and cholesterol. Hemo level for thick blood was in the high end of normal levels but since draining 350mls I feel good again.

I honestly try keep health priortity over gains as I don’t want to be that one dixkhead who prefers gains over health.
I saw your bloods bro, your liver loves you though I can tell you that 😂 nothing you can’t fix. Keep doing what your doing 💪🏼
 
Blood pressure is back down to 128/63

Levbutlerov just a quick question.
The bigger guys you know where you try keep their bp as low as you can get them at their weight. Wht are a few things you do?
Honest answer they take anti-bp drugs. Very few big guys take advice to get smaller and lower sodium and go low carbs.
 
Honest answer they take anti-bp drugs. Very few big guys take advice to get smaller and lower sodium and go low carbs.
See sometimes during a cruise after 5 weeks I’ll go low carb (150g - 200g) only for breakfast and post workout shake and the rest are high protein and fats.

Does wonders for my body and also leans me out and brings bp down very well. I just use this as a mini cut at times for a few weeks.
 
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