Approved Log Testosterone Equipoise Proviron Recomp Journal

[ROIDDERS]

0830
Quad warmup
Leg extensions
3x140x10
Trap bar squats
135x10
225x10
315x8
225x7
Plate loaded shoulder press
140x12
180x11
230x10
230x9
Superset bent over dumbell reverse/front raises 3x25x12-14 fast
Cable face pulls
90x10
100x10
100x8
Another set of legs extensions
3x150x8-12

Treadmill 30min speed 3.4 incline 7

Taking the next 2 days off, bloodwork on friday

@Warthog61 nice mix on the exercises. you planning anything fun for tgiving? hopefully you can post up some nice meals

 

[2Thick]

0830
Quad warmup
Leg extensions
3x140x10
Trap bar squats
135x10
225x10
315x8
225x7
Plate loaded shoulder press
140x12
180x11
230x10
230x9
Superset bent over dumbell reverse/front raises 3x25x12-14 fast
Cable face pulls
90x10
100x10
100x8
Another set of legs extensions
3x150x8-12

Treadmill 30min speed 3.4 incline 7

Taking the next 2 days off, bloodwork on friday

meal looks amazing! add some bbq sauce to that. not much but a little drizzle and boom that is great! @Warthog61

 

[Warthog61]

@Warthog61 nice mix on the exercises. you planning anything fun for tgiving? hopefully you can post up some nice meals

Meal will be the regular Thanksgiving fixings. Heading over to my dad's with the kids, my wife is working unfortunately

 

[Warthog61]

meal looks amazing! add some bbq sauce to that. not much but a little drizzle and boom that is great! @Warthog61

Venison backstraps are soo tender and tasty no BBQ needed

 

[Warthog61]

@Warthog61 nice mix on the exercises. you planning anything fun for tgiving? hopefully you can post up some nice meals

How about you?

 

[LevButlerov]

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Meal will be the regular Thanksgiving fixings. Heading over to my dad's with the kids, my wife is working unfortunately

You catching a turkey outside? @Warthog61

 

[Warthog61]

You catching a turkey outside? @Warthog61

I do in the spring with an arrow. Turkeys can be mean man, I've been attacked by a hen once,(thought it was injured, but it was protecting its chicks) I actcually fell and broke my phone. I hop up and see this very attractive lady jogging, she asked if that thing just attacked me and if it is safe to jog by it. I said screw that

 

[Warthog61]

Don't know if you can see it but 3 otters swam by me, they went to the pond just behind me and were smashing the thin ice apart, I assume like me, they aren't ready for the winter

 

[RoySimpson]

0830
Quad warmup
Leg extensions
3x140x10
Trap bar squats
135x10
225x10
315x8
225x7
Plate loaded shoulder press
140x12
180x11
230x10
230x9
Superset bent over dumbell reverse/front raises 3x25x12-14 fast
Cable face pulls
90x10
100x10
100x8
Another set of legs extensions
3x150x8-12

Treadmill 30min speed 3.4 incline 7

Taking the next 2 days off, bloodwork on friday

@Warthog61 Cannot go wrong with that steak dinner!

 

[Warthog61]

Bro. Is this a hell of a job if you ask me. The trap bar squats and the plate loaded shoulder press on point for sure. You're not going to go wrong with the leg extensions. @Warthog61

Supposed to be a leg focused day but I just felt like hammering shoulders. Felt good, pumps have been great and I feel really strong

 

[Warthog61]

@Warthog61 Cannot go wrong with that steak dinner!

Venison steak, nice and lean

 

[LevButlerov]

I do in the spring with an arrow. Turkeys can be mean man, I've been attacked by a hen once,(thought it was injured, but it was protecting its chicks) I actcually fell and broke my phone. I hop up and see this very attractive lady jogging, she asked if that thing just attacked me and if it is safe to jog by it. I said screw that

I didnt know turkeys attack people lol good we eat them @Warthog61

 

[LevButlerov]

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Don't know if you can see it but 3 otters swam by me, they went to the pond just behind me and were smashing the thin ice apart, I assume like me, they aren't ready for the winter

cant see

 

[ballin2504]

0830
Quad warmup
Leg extensions
3x140x10
Trap bar squats
135x10
225x10
315x8
225x7
Plate loaded shoulder press
140x12
180x11
230x10
230x9
Superset bent over dumbell reverse/front raises 3x25x12-14 fast
Cable face pulls
90x10
100x10
100x8
Another set of legs extensions
3x150x8-12

Treadmill 30min speed 3.4 incline 7

Taking the next 2 days off, bloodwork on friday

@Warthog61 great training update man. Nice work on the volume also. Looks perfect to me

 

[ceo]

Supposed to be a leg focused day but I just felt like hammering shoulders. Felt good, pumps have been great and I feel really strong

Bros. There's nothing better than that.

 

[ROIDDERS]

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Meal will be the regular Thanksgiving fixings. Heading over to my dad's with the kids, my wife is working unfortunately

what is that? a tree with rope around it? you going zip lining?

 

[ROIDDERS]

How about you?

boring tgiving for me. just meal and football

 

[Warthog61]

what is that? a tree with rope around it? you going zip lining?

Saddle hunting, I climb a tree with a harness and hang off of it. Its nice because I can shoot bow from any position. A light setup for hiking deep in the woods

 

[2Thick]

Venison backstraps are soo tender and tasty no BBQ needed

I love my barbecue sauce though. Anyway. Ha ha.

 

[Warthog61]

I love my barbecue sauce though. Anyway. Ha ha.

What kind do you use? @2Thick

 

[Warthog61]

Did some cardio this afternoon. The noodle looking stuff is zucchini, pretty good actcually. We got our Christmas tree too........... $120?!???!? We should have hiked a mountain and chopped one down

 

[LevButlerov]

Did some cardio this afternoon. The noodle looking stuff is zucchini, pretty good actcually. We got our Christmas tree too........... $120?!???!? We should have hiked a mountain and chopped one downView attachment 147838View attachment 147839

thats a nice meal tasty but 120? wow @Warthog61

 

[Warthog61]

Well designed cycle, comprehensive nutrition, beautiful split. Mate, good work.

Need to address LDL though. Red yeast and citrus bergamot should help heaps. You can also add in plant sterols at 1, 200mg/ week. Would be keen to see blood again in a month or two.

Who is your coach? They've done really well

I added that plant sterols and berberine daily to my supp list. I just got some of my bloods back will post once I recieve all results but my LDL dropped by 27!!! Sitting at 110ldl, did lose a point on hdl but still at 39, bloods have improved since before cycle. I'm pumped and thank you for the tip!!!!!!!

 

[Warthog61]

0900 ROM/warmup
Incline plate loaded
180x12
230x12
270x10
290x8
Pec deck
3x140x10
Bent over cable x-flys
60x11
70x10
70x8
Lat raises Dumbell
25x12
30x12
30x10
Rope pushdown
100x12
120x11
130x9
X-cable rev. Fly
20x12
30x10
30x9
Single arm push down across chest
4x40x8-12

40min treadmill speed 3.4 incline 7

Still pumped I've gotten my LDL below my target 115 on cycle, thanks to what i believe is from some additional supp sugestions. SHGB has dropped a little with addition of proviron, look at that free test!

Still waiting on ultra sensitive for e2 and igf so a little concerned that standard e2 is less than 30 so it may very well be crashed. We shall see, dbol in cart and getting ready to boost the T up. Feel no sides currently, if anything I feel stronger and ALIVE! Maybe a little moody if you ask my wife but the libido and "bloodflow" have been 2nd to none! Proviron helping?@HarleyGuy @LevButlerov @R.AP @Allupfromhere @stevesmi

 

[ROIDDERS]

Saddle hunting, I climb a tree with a harness and hang off of it. Its nice because I can shoot bow from any position. A light setup for hiking deep in the woods

ah okay makes sense. you must be a country boy then

 

[Warthog61]

ah okay makes sense. you must be a country boy then

A passion for the outdoors, hike, hunt, fish but this revived addiction of eating clean and lifting has kinda taken over . Especially when people start to notice. Not a bad thing in my opinion.

Its a balance of hobbies and lifestyles
@ROIDDERS

 

[ROIDDERS]

A passion for the outdoors, hike, hunt, fish but this revived addiction of eating clean and lifting has kinda taken over . Especially when people start to notice. Not a bad thing in my opinion.

Its a balance of hobbies and lifestyles
@ROIDDERS

As long as you don't mind having to go through the process of cleaning those animals, they can get really disgusting.

 

[Warthog61]

As long as you don't mind having to go through the process of cleaning those animals, they can get really disgusting.

Its easy enough. Deer are lighter to drag out of the woods when you pull all the innards out

 

[ROIDDERS]

Its easy enough. Deer are lighter to drag out of the woods when you pull all the innards out

yeah atleast you aren't one of those losers who have to take their hunt to someone else to clean lol. or they are so out of shape they ending up passing out or getting heart attacks from deer hunting

 

[2Thick]

What kind do you use? @2Thick

I use one called FODY that Steve told me about.

 

[Warthog61]

yeah atleast you aren't one of those losers who have to take their hunt to someone else to clean lol. or they are so out of shape they ending up passing out or getting heart attacks from deer hunting

Yeah, it can be tough getting them out for anyone let alone someone that's 300lbs and has heart issues. Gotta think a buck field dressed is about 140-150 lbs, they usually run down to a body of water or safety. My spot, i have to pull them up 600ft elevation gain and 1.8 miles to truck crossing 2 streams. Its one heck of a workout

 

[Warthog61]

I use one called FODY that Steve told me about.

Found it right on Amazon, i'll have to give it a shot. Usually if I use any its just sweet baby rays with no salt added

 

[Warthog61]

Found it right on Amazon, i'll have to give it a shot. Usually if I use any its just sweet baby rays with no salt added

No sugar added*

 

[2Thick]

Found it right on Amazon, i'll have to give it a shot. Usually if I use any its just sweet baby rays with no salt added

yeah that one is nice. it is very clean and easy on the gut. most bbq sauce gives me the shits right away but this stuff doesn't.

 

[Warthog61]

Amazon treadmill, I am actually impressed. Perfect to get in 40 min of cardio before work or whenever really
We shall see how long it lasts

 

[Allupfromhere]

0900 ROM/warmup
Incline plate loaded
180x12
230x12
270x10
290x8
Pec deck
3x140x10
Bent over cable x-flys
60x11
70x10
70x8
Lat raises Dumbell
25x12
30x12
30x10
Rope pushdown
100x12
120x11
130x9
X-cable rev. Fly
20x12
30x10
30x9
Single arm push down across chest
4x40x8-12

40min treadmill speed 3.4 incline 7

Still pumped I've gotten my LDL below my target 115 on cycle, thanks to what i believe is from some additional supp sugestions. SHGB has dropped a little with addition of proviron, look at that free test!

Still waiting on ultra sensitive for e2 and igf so a little concerned that standard e2 is less than 30 so it may very well be crashed. We shall see, dbol in cart and getting ready to boost the T up. Feel no sides currently, if anything I feel stronger and ALIVE! Maybe a little moody if you ask my wife but the libido and "bloodflow" have been 2nd to none! Proviron helping?@HarleyGuy @LevButlerov @R.AP @Allupfromhere @stevesmi

Free test has come in nice brother, proviron definitely helping bind to shbg.
Hmm yeah e2 is very low if under 30pg/ml and the lcms test im sure will show a lower reading again.

Your test eq ratio still the same yeah bro? 2:1?

 

[Warthog61]

0900 ROM/warmup
Incline plate loaded
180x12
230x12
270x10
290x8
Pec deck
3x140x10
Bent over cable x-flys
60x11
70x10
70x8
Lat raises Dumbell
25x12
30x12
30x10
Rope pushdown
100x12
120x11
130x9
X-cable rev. Fly
20x12
30x10
30x9
Single arm push down across chest
4x40x8-12

40min treadmill speed 3.4 incline 7

Still pumped I've gotten my LDL below my target 115 on cycle, thanks to what i believe is from some additional supp sugestions. SHGB has dropped a little with addition of proviron, look at that free test!

Still waiting on ultra sensitive for e2 and igf so a little concerned that standard e2 is less than 30 so it may very well be crashed. We shall see, dbol in cart and getting ready to boost the T up. Feel no sides currently, if anything I feel stronger and ALIVE! Maybe a little moody if you ask my wife but the libido and "bloodflow" have been 2nd to none! Proviron helping?@HarleyGuy @LevButlerov @R.AP @Allupfromhere @stevesmi

@HarleyGuy

Free test has come in nice brother, proviron definitely helping bind to shbg.
Hmm yeah e2 is very low if under 30pg/ml and the lcms test im sure will show a lower reading again.

Your test eq ratio still the same yeah bro? 2:1?

Yeah 400/200, ill see what the sensitive test is at, was hoping to go up on eq but looks like its a e2 crasher for me. Its odd because I dont really feel low sides at all

 

[Allupfromhere]

@HarleyGuy
Yeah 400/200, ill see what the sensitive test is at, was hoping to go up on eq but looks like its a e2 crasher for me. Its odd because I dont really feel low sides at all

Just sit tight until you get your lcms test back and then we can make a move from there.
Im the same even at 2:1 my e2 was still low.. sitting at 2.2:1 now and im good to go. I have seen bros on here run 4:1 you just need to find your ratio with a little work and when you have it next time your now shooting from the hip anymore. Lets see these tests when the come in bro

 

[Warthog61]

Just sit tight until you get your lcms test back and then we can make a move from there.
Im the same even at 2:1 my e2 was still low.. sitting at 2.2:1 now and im good to go. I have seen bros on here run 4:1 you just need to find your ratio with a little work and when you have it next time your now shooting from the hip anymore. Lets see these tests when the come in bro

Yeah I get it. Crazy how it effects people so differently

 

[Allupfromhere]

Yeah I get it. Crazy how it effects people so differently

Hahaha brother you are not wrong, i dont think i have seen another compound so hostile

 

[Warthog61]

Just sit tight until you get your lcms test back and then we can make a move from there.
Im the same even at 2:1 my e2 was still low.. sitting at 2.2:1 now and im good to go. I have seen bros on here run 4:1 you just need to find your ratio with a little work and when you have it next time your now shooting from the hip anymore. Lets see these tests when the come in bro

With my lipids back in check and liver good I was half way thinking of trying orals again at the end of cycle. Maybe some var for the last 6 weeks. Adrol would be sweet to try but dont want to beat my liver with a bat

 

[Warthog61]

Hahaha brother you are not wrong, i dont think i have seen another compound so hostile

Its wild, im happy the proviron is doing its thing, probably helping with the low e2 sides

 

[Warthog61]

0900 ROM/warmup
Incline plate loaded
180x12
230x12
270x10
290x8
Pec deck
3x140x10
Bent over cable x-flys
60x11
70x10
70x8
Lat raises Dumbell
25x12
30x12
30x10
Rope pushdown
100x12
120x11
130x9
X-cable rev. Fly
20x12
30x10
30x9
Single arm push down across chest
4x40x8-12

40min treadmill speed 3.4 incline 7

Still pumped I've gotten my LDL below my target 115 on cycle, thanks to what i believe is from some additional supp sugestions. SHGB has dropped a little with addition of proviron, look at that free test!

Still waiting on ultra sensitive for e2 and igf so a little concerned that standard e2 is less than 30 so it may very well be crashed. We shall see, dbol in cart and getting ready to boost the T up. Feel no sides currently, if anything I feel stronger and ALIVE! Maybe a little moody if you ask my wife but the libido and "bloodflow" have been 2nd to none! Proviron helping?@HarleyGuy @LevButlerov @R.AP @Allupfromhere @stevesmi

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0900 ROM/warmup
Incline plate loaded
180x12
230x12
270x10
290x8
Pec deck
3x140x10
Bent over cable x-flys
60x11
70x10
70x8
Lat raises Dumbell
25x12
30x12
30x10
Rope pushdown
100x12
120x11
130x9
X-cable rev. Fly
20x12
30x10
30x9
Single arm push down across chest
4x40x8-12

40min treadmill speed 3.4 incline 7

Still pumped I've gotten my LDL below my target 115 on cycle, thanks to what i believe is from some additional supp sugestions. SHGB has dropped a little with addition of proviron, look at that free test!

Still waiting on ultra sensitive for e2 and igf so a little concerned that standard e2 is less than 30 so it may very well be crashed. We shall see, dbol in cart and getting ready to boost the T up. Feel no sides currently, if anything I feel stronger and ALIVE! Maybe a little moody if you ask my wife but the libido and "bloodflow" have been 2nd to none! Proviron helping?@HarleyGuy @LevButlerov @R.AP @Allupfromhere @stevesmi

@HarleyGuy

 

[Allupfromhere]

With my lipids back in check and liver good I was half way thinking of trying orals again at the end of cycle. Maybe some var for the last 6 weeks. Adrol would be sweet to try but dont want to beat my liver with a bat

Leave the drol brother, the var will still give you good strength boost at the end and be easier on you liver too. Drol could blow you up with some water to while var will keep this dry and cosmetic at that stage. Not sure why drol does that even as a dht but it does.

My 2c bro, fine tune your ratios, i would bring up test over dropping eq as eq is only at 200 as is. Train like a psychopath and keep your diet clean and structured.
Be militant with your cardio as that wont just help with the fat loss but hearth health and cholesterol. Add the var at the last 6 weeks for the final push and clean up.

 

[Warthog61]

Leave the drol brother, the var will still give you good strength boost at the end and be easier on you liver too. Drol could blow you up with some water to while var will keep this dry and cosmetic at that stage. Not sure why drol does that even as a dht but it does.

My 2c bro, fine tune your ratios, i would bring up test over dropping eq as eq is only at 200 as is. Train like a psychopath and keep your diet clean and structured.
Be militant with your cardio as that wont just help with the fat loss but hearth health and cholesterol. Add the var at the last 6 weeks for the final push and clean up.

Leaning towards that. I felt really good on var before, like king Kong feeling, I remember wanting to push my legs thru the treadmill. That was at 20mg 2x daily

 

[HarleyGuy]

0900 ROM/warmup
Incline plate loaded
180x12
230x12
270x10
290x8
Pec deck
3x140x10
Bent over cable x-flys
60x11
70x10
70x8
Lat raises Dumbell
25x12
30x12
30x10
Rope pushdown
100x12
120x11
130x9
X-cable rev. Fly
20x12
30x10
30x9
Single arm push down across chest
4x40x8-12

40min treadmill speed 3.4 incline 7

Still pumped I've gotten my LDL below my target 115 on cycle, thanks to what i believe is from some additional supp sugestions. SHGB has dropped a little with addition of proviron, look at that free test!

Still waiting on ultra sensitive for e2 and igf so a little concerned that standard e2 is less than 30 so it may very well be crashed. We shall see, dbol in cart and getting ready to boost the T up. Feel no sides currently, if anything I feel stronger and ALIVE! Maybe a little moody if you ask my wife but the libido and "bloodflow" have been 2nd to none! Proviron helping?@HarleyGuy @LevButlerov @R.AP @Allupfromhere @stevesmi

These bloods look good bro. That bigass RED scary looking marker regarding your HDL & LDL is just saying it’s out of range but you’re barely (like barely) out of range and your ratio is in range which is what matters.

E2 will need to be assigned a quantitative value so tag me when the US (sensitive) e2 comes in. Right now being just ‘less than 30’ isn’t good enough as you know, so we’ll so how low it actually is.

Your test and free test is as expected and with the proviron there’s no doubt libido and your woody is in full gear!

All is well here. If the US e2 is remarkably low we’ll address it. Glad you’re feeling good bro!

 

[Warthog61]

These bloods look good bro. That bigass RED scary looking marker regarding your HDL & LDL is just saying it’s out of range but you’re barely (like barely) out of range and your ratio is in range which is what matters.

E2 will need to be assigned a quantitative value so tag me when the US (sensitive) e2 comes in. Right now being just ‘less than 30’ isn’t good enough as you know, so we’ll so how low it actually is.

Your test and free test is as expected and with the proviron there’s no doubt libido and your woody is in full gear!

All is well here. If the US e2 is remarkably low we’ll address it. Glad you’re feeling good bro!

Its the best my cholesterol has been in a long time. My target was 115 for this cycle so im pretty happy. Pushing cardio a lot.
I am curious about the sensitive e2 results as well. Hate to have to lower eq dose as im only at 200 now. Not against other changes if need be, I have enough test for 2 years honestly.
Curious on igf results too, have really been thinking of gh for a while now. For as long as I can afford itbut want to see a rough baseline as that's always fluctuating
Glad I added proviron its a subtle addition to the matrix
Thanks for looking bro!!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Its the best my cholesterol has been in a long time. My target was 115 for this cycle so im pretty happy. Pushing cardio a lot.
I am curious about the sensitive e2 results as well. Hate to have to lower eq dose as im only at 200 now. Not against other changes if need be, I have enough test for 2 years honestly.
Curious on igf results too, have really been thinking of gh for a while now. For as long as I can afford itbut want to see a rough baseline as that's always fluctuating
Glad I added proviron its a subtle addition to the matrix
Thanks for looking bro!!

Of course bro. I’m happy to and happy about your bloods these are great. IGF pulses and fluctuates throughout the day as well as GH so you can add GH and get bloods not long after (like an hour after) to see the effectiveness of the GH on your IGF1 spikes.

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

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Amazon treadmill, I am actually impressed. Perfect to get in 40 min of cardio before work or whenever really
We shall see how long it lasts

@Warthog61 machine looks good..........

 

[Allupfromhere]

Its the best my cholesterol has been in a long time. My target was 115 for this cycle so im pretty happy. Pushing cardio a lot.
I am curious about the sensitive e2 results as well. Hate to have to lower eq dose as im only at 200 now. Not against other changes if need be, I have enough test for 2 years honestly.
Curious on igf results too, have really been thinking of gh for a while now. For as long as I can afford itbut want to see a rough baseline as that's always fluctuating
Glad I added proviron its a subtle addition to the matrix
Thanks for looking bro!!

Ok this is a very lamen breakdown of your igf levels. Insulin is key here...

When insulin is high (fed state) your livers production of gh to igf1 is also high.
At this time it is also telling your pituitary gland to produce less gh secretion.

When insulin is low (fasted state) gh secretion is high because the negative feedback loop is weakened and gh becomes more essential for providing energy primarily through the breakdown of fat stores (lypolisis). This is you body trying to regain homeostasis.
Now the liver needs insulin fo it to be responsive to gh.

When insulin is high, the liver is more sensitive to gh, leading to increased production of igf1. Low insulin reduces the liver's sensitivity to gh, which can lead to lower igf1 levels.
When the liver produces more igf1, it tells the pituitary gland to release less gh. Conversely, when igf levels are low, mostly due to low insulin, the feedback is reduced, and gh levels can rise.

The interaction between insulin and gh is a tricky balance that changes depending on your nutritional state. When your fed, high insulin allows gh to promote growth without causing excessive fat breakdown. When fasted, low insulin allows gh to increase, mobilizing fat stores to be used as fuel.

It is so much more to break this down properly but i dont have the knowledge to pass this on to you bro. @LevButlerov is the man for this but he is also very busy hahaha.

e2 plays a big influence on your livers ability to convert gh to igf1 also. There was a solid article another coach on here had created for gh ill find it for you brother.

 

[Allupfromhere]

Got it bro

Thread 'AE Info Series - No.2 - Everything HGH' https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/ae-info-series-no-2-everything-hgh.101840/

 

[Warthog61]

Of course bro. I’m happy to and happy about your bloods these are great. IGF pulses and fluctuates throughout the day as well as GH so you can add GH and get bloods not long after (like an hour after) to see the effectiveness of the GH on your IGF1 spikes.

Looking at 1-2iu to start before bed for a while. Kindof a therapeutic dose for a little while

Ok this is a very lamen breakdown of your igf levels. Insulin is key here...

When insulin is high (fed state) your livers production of gh to igf1 is also high.
At this time it is also telling your pituitary gland to produce less gh secretion.

When insulin is low (fasted state) gh secretion is high because the negative feedback loop is weakened and gh becomes more essential for providing energy primarily through the breakdown of fat stores (lypolisis). This is you body trying to regain homeostasis.
Now the liver needs insulin fo it to be responsive to gh.

When insulin is high, the liver is more sensitive to gh, leading to increased production of igf1. Low insulin reduces the liver's sensitivity to gh, which can lead to lower igf1 levels.
When the liver produces more igf1, it tells the pituitary gland to release less gh. Conversely, when igf levels are low, mostly due to low insulin, the feedback is reduced, and gh levels can rise.

The interaction between insulin and gh is a tricky balance that changes depending on your nutritional state. When your fed, high insulin allows gh to promote growth without causing excessive fat breakdown. When fasted, low insulin allows gh to increase, mobilizing fat stores to be used as fuel.

It is so much more to break this down properly but i dont have the knowledge to pass this on to you bro. @LevButlerov is the man for this but he is also very busy hahaha.

e2 plays a big influence on your livers ability to convert gh to igf1 also. There was a solid article another coach on here had created for gh ill find it for you brother.

I had to read that 3 times, hahaha. I dont want to confuse myself. I'd appreciate that link! I want to learn about it as much as possible.

Thanks brother!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Ok this is a very lamen breakdown of your igf levels. Insulin is key here...

When insulin is high (fed state) your livers production of gh to igf1 is also high.
At this time it is also telling your pituitary gland to produce less gh secretion.

When insulin is low (fasted state) gh secretion is high because the negative feedback loop is weakened and gh becomes more essential for providing energy primarily through the breakdown of fat stores (lypolisis). This is you body trying to regain homeostasis.
Now the liver needs insulin fo it to be responsive to gh.

When insulin is high, the liver is more sensitive to gh, leading to increased production of igf1. Low insulin reduces the liver's sensitivity to gh, which can lead to lower igf1 levels.
When the liver produces more igf1, it tells the pituitary gland to release less gh. Conversely, when igf levels are low, mostly due to low insulin, the feedback is reduced, and gh levels can rise.

The interaction between insulin and gh is a tricky balance that changes depending on your nutritional state. When your fed, high insulin allows gh to promote growth without causing excessive fat breakdown. When fasted, low insulin allows gh to increase, mobilizing fat stores to be used as fuel.

It is so much more to break this down properly but i dont have the knowledge to pass this on to you bro. @LevButlerov is the man for this but he is also very busy hahaha.

e2 plays a big influence on your livers ability to convert gh to igf1 also. There was a solid article another coach on here had created for gh ill find it for you brother.

Great way to put this in layman’s terms. Very well written! @LevButlerov @s.gentz @Pigsy

 

[LevButlerov]

Ok this is a very lamen breakdown of your igf levels. Insulin is key here...

When insulin is high (fed state) your livers production of gh to igf1 is also high.
At this time it is also telling your pituitary gland to produce less gh secretion.

When insulin is low (fasted state) gh secretion is high because the negative feedback loop is weakened and gh becomes more essential for providing energy primarily through the breakdown of fat stores (lypolisis). This is you body trying to regain homeostasis.
Now the liver needs insulin fo it to be responsive to gh.

When insulin is high, the liver is more sensitive to gh, leading to increased production of igf1. Low insulin reduces the liver's sensitivity to gh, which can lead to lower igf1 levels.
When the liver produces more igf1, it tells the pituitary gland to release less gh. Conversely, when igf levels are low, mostly due to low insulin, the feedback is reduced, and gh levels can rise.

The interaction between insulin and gh is a tricky balance that changes depending on your nutritional state. When your fed, high insulin allows gh to promote growth without causing excessive fat breakdown. When fasted, low insulin allows gh to increase, mobilizing fat stores to be used as fuel.

It is so much more to break this down properly but i dont have the knowledge to pass this on to you bro. @LevButlerov is the man for this but he is also very busy hahaha.

e2 plays a big influence on your livers ability to convert gh to igf1 also. There was a solid article another coach on here had created for gh ill find it for you brother.

well said @Allupfromhere

 

[ROIDDERS]

Yeah, it can be tough getting them out for anyone let alone someone that's 300lbs and has heart issues. Gotta think a buck field dressed is about 140-150 lbs, they usually run down to a body of water or safety. My spot, i have to pull them up 600ft elevation gain and 1.8 miles to truck crossing 2 streams. Its one heck of a workout

yep everyone loves to hunt, but they hate the actual grind after

 

[Warthog61]

1300 Warmup
Standing lat pushdown
100x12
110x10
130x9
Seated cable rows wide
130x12
140x10
140x10
Single arm cable rows to waist
2x50x12
60x10
Cable lat pulldown med-wide
140x12
150x8
160x8
180x7
Preacher ez bar
60x12
70x9
70x8
Dumbell hammers
35x12
40x9
45x8

 

[LevButlerov]

1300 Warmup
Standing lat pushdown
100x12
110x10
130x9
Seated cable rows wide
130x12
140x10
140x10
Single arm cable rows to waist
2x50x12
60x10
Cable lat pulldown med-wide
140x12
150x8
160x8
180x7
Preacher ez bar
60x12
70x9
70x8
Dumbell hammers
35x12
40x9
45x8

140 on the rows good weight and lat pulls 180 you really getting strong @Warthog61

 

[Warthog61]

140 on the rows good weight and lat pulls 180 you really getting strong @Warthog61

I definitely feel like i am, I have to pace myself

 

[LevButlerov]

I definitely feel like i am, I have to pace myself

you pumping hard

 

[Warthog61]

0430 40min treadmill speed 3.4 incline 8

1530 warmup
Leg extensions (warmup)
2x140x12
Outer thigh machine
3x110x12 hold
Leg press
180x12
270x12
450x10
540x8
Smith=Sissy Squats
120x10
170x10
190x7
210x6
Leg extensions
150x12
160x10
170x10
180x7

Going to be a long next 48 hours. First snow storm of the season. Short drivers and mechanics,trucks are broke and the storm hasn't even started yet. Whey and rice cakes for the next 36 hours

Macros today C 144g P 295g F 40g

Trying some Cauliflower rice with dinner

 

[Warthog61]

Igf-1 came back still waiting on lcms e2
@LevButlerov @HarleyGuy

 

[HarleyGuy]

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Igf-1 came back still waiting on lcms e2
@LevButlerov @HarleyGuy

Ok lookin good! Just need that lcm e2 and we can go from there.

My guess is that your e2 isn't low that's for sure because that's decent IGF-1.

Remember what @Allupfromhere said

e2 plays a big influence on your livers ability to convert gh to igf1

 

[LevButlerov]

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Igf-1 came back still waiting on lcms e2
@LevButlerov @HarleyGuy

That's not bad at all IGF levels are on point @Warthog61 lets wait for e2

 

[Warthog61]

Ok lookin good! Just need that lcm e2 and we can go from there.

My guess is that your e2 isn't low that's for sure because that's decent IGF-1.

Remember what @Allupfromhere said

Hopefully 29 so I can play with eq at maybe 300 i like even ml's, starting to notice the 400 test pretty good im enjoying my output so far

 

[Warthog61]

That's not bad at all IGF levels are on point @Warthog61 lets wait for e2

Sounds like a plan

 

[Allupfromhere]

0430 40min treadmill speed 3.4 incline 8

1530 warmup
Leg extensions (warmup)
2x140x12
Outer thigh machine
3x110x12 hold
Leg press
180x12
270x12
450x10
540x8
Smith=Sissy Squats
120x10
170x10
190x7
210x6
Leg extensions
150x12
160x10
170x10
180x7

Going to be a long next 48 hours. First snow storm of the season. Short drivers and mechanics,trucks are broke and the storm hasn't even started yet. Whey and rice cakes for the next 36 hours

Macros today C 144g P 295g F 40g

Trying some Cauliflower rice with dinner
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Bro those meals are lit!
Session is nice and strong too.
What time of day did you test for igf1? Fasted or fed?

 

[HarleyGuy]

Hopefully 29 so I can play with eq at maybe 300 i like even ml's, starting to notice the 400 test pretty good im enjoying my output so far

Easy there cowboy LOL... but yes, agreed if it's doable.

 

[Warthog61]

Bro those meals are lit!
Session is nice and strong too.
What time of day did you test for igf1? Fasted or fed?

Fasted at 10am

 

[Allupfromhere]

Fasted at 10am

Thats a decent reading for fasted brother

 

[LevButlerov]

0430 40min treadmill speed 3.4 incline 8

1530 warmup
Leg extensions (warmup)
2x140x12
Outer thigh machine
3x110x12 hold
Leg press
180x12
270x12
450x10
540x8
Smith=Sissy Squats
120x10
170x10
190x7
210x6
Leg extensions
150x12
160x10
170x10
180x7

Going to be a long next 48 hours. First snow storm of the season. Short drivers and mechanics,trucks are broke and the storm hasn't even started yet. Whey and rice cakes for the next 36 hours

Macros today C 144g P 295g F 40g

Trying some Cauliflower rice with dinner
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good food pics clean @Warthog61 leg press at 540lbs with the squats hitting 210lbs is good volume.
I love the 295 protein!

 

[Warthog61]

Easy there cowboy LOL... but yes, agreed if it's doable.

Baby steps! No micro tren a for last 8 weeks with some adrol? Kidding on tren but tossing the idea of last 6 weeks a go with var to sweep the cycle

 

[Warthog61]

good food pics clean @Warthog61 leg press at 540lbs with the squats hitting 210lbs is good volume.
I love the 295 protein!

I usually have to add 4-5 scoops whey to get there with yogurt and tuna plus meals but my digestion has been on point at this level

 

[HarleyGuy]

Baby steps! No micro tren a for last 8 weeks with some adrol? Kidding on tren but tossing the idea of last 6 weeks a go with var to sweep the cycle

Nothing wrong with a little VAR to tops things off I always say LOL!

 

[Warthog61]

Thats a decent reading for fasted brother

I thought so.

Another thing i was thinking. They pulled like 6 large vials i couldn't believe it. Felt like I was donating blood, she kept asking if i was good. I was concerned about hematocrit but I fully hydrated(had time because im up at 4am anyways), I think that's where a lot of guys slip and panic when its at 55%

 

[Allupfromhere]

brother crazy how well it draws when you hydrated properly!!

 

[stevesmi]

0430 40min treadmill speed 3.4 incline 8

1530 warmup
Leg extensions (warmup)
2x140x12
Outer thigh machine
3x110x12 hold
Leg press
180x12
270x12
450x10
540x8
Smith=Sissy Squats
120x10
170x10
190x7
210x6
Leg extensions
150x12
160x10
170x10
180x7

Going to be a long next 48 hours. First snow storm of the season. Short drivers and mechanics,trucks are broke and the storm hasn't even started yet. Whey and rice cakes for the next 36 hours

Macros today C 144g P 295g F 40g

Trying some Cauliflower rice with dinner
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@Warthog61 That's some good looking food right there champ. You're eating like an absolute beast. That's amazing to see.

 

[Warthog61]

@Warthog61 That's some good looking food right there champ. You're eating like an absolute beast. That's amazing to see.

Simple yet it taste soo good, I gotta get back into making my own protein bars for the week, store bought ones just dont cut it @stevesmi

 

[stevesmi]

Simple yet it taste soo good, I gotta get back into making my own protein bars for the week, store bought ones just dont cut it @stevesmi

I have a recipe on my Log. I made a whole batch for them that will last me over a week.

 

[Warthog61]

I have a recipe on my Log. I made a whole batch for them that will last me over a week.

I'll check it out. I keep them simple usually, no bake fridge bars its like 4-5 ingredients

 

[stevesmi]

I'll check it out. I keep them simple usually, no bake fridge bars its like 4-5 ingredients

Yes, that's exactly what I do. Maybe you can share your bars as well and lay out your recipe.

 

[Warthog61]

Yes, that's exactly what I do. Maybe you can share your bars as well and lay out your recipe.

I have in my 1st log, I will do them this coming weekend and post up my concoction

 

[stevesmi]

I have in my 1st log, I will do them this coming weekend and post up my concoction

ah okay. i think i remember that i will go back and look

 

[Warthog61]

ah okay. i think i remember that i will go back and look
It was something like oats, almond butter, protein powder, honey and chia seeds. Going to try adding nuts and raisins, maybe even dried cranberries. I had to put a touch of water in just to mash it all together if i remember correctly, but i like them on the softer side anyways. Saw the Pic of yours, looks really good with the rasins

 

[ceo]

0430 40min treadmill speed 3.4 incline 8

1530 warmup
Leg extensions (warmup)
2x140x12
Outer thigh machine
3x110x12 hold
Leg press
180x12
270x12
450x10
540x8
Smith=Sissy Squats
120x10
170x10
190x7
210x6
Leg extensions
150x12
160x10
170x10
180x7

Going to be a long next 48 hours. First snow storm of the season. Short drivers and mechanics,trucks are broke and the storm hasn't even started yet. Whey and rice cakes for the next 36 hours

Macros today C 144g P 295g F 40g

Trying some Cauliflower rice with dinner
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Bros. You won't beat this type of food prep right here. It all looking really good. I'm seeing some nice rice and vegetables. That's what I like to see. @Warthog61

 

[R.AP]

I added that plant sterols and berberine daily to my supp list. I just got some of my bloods back will post once I recieve all results but my LDL dropped by 27!!! Sitting at 110ldl, did lose a point on hdl but still at 39, bloods have improved since before cycle. I'm pumped and thank you for the tip!!!!!!!

Any time sir! Massive drop in LDL. Amazing.

@LevButlerov

 

[Mobster]

0430 40min treadmill speed 3.4 incline 8

1530 warmup
Leg extensions (warmup)
2x140x12
Outer thigh machine
3x110x12 hold
Leg press
180x12
270x12
450x10
540x8
Smith=Sissy Squats
120x10
170x10
190x7
210x6
Leg extensions
150x12
160x10
170x10
180x7

Going to be a long next 48 hours. First snow storm of the season. Short drivers and mechanics,trucks are broke and the storm hasn't even started yet. Whey and rice cakes for the next 36 hours

Macros today C 144g P 295g F 40g

Trying some Cauliflower rice with dinner
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Local floods here

 

[Ulter]

0430 40min treadmill speed 3.4 incline 8

1530 warmup
Leg extensions (warmup)
2x140x12
Outer thigh machine
3x110x12 hold
Leg press
180x12
270x12
450x10
540x8
Smith=Sissy Squats
120x10
170x10
190x7
210x6
Leg extensions
150x12
160x10
170x10
180x7

Going to be a long next 48 hours. First snow storm of the season. Short drivers and mechanics,trucks are broke and the storm hasn't even started yet. Whey and rice cakes for the next 36 hours

Macros today C 144g P 295g F 40g

Trying some Cauliflower rice with dinner
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treadmill and warmup is amazing. great work on this training! @Warthog61 sissy squats i used to think were beta, but now i like them too

 

[ROIDDERS]

0430 40min treadmill speed 3.4 incline 8

1530 warmup
Leg extensions (warmup)
2x140x12
Outer thigh machine
3x110x12 hold
Leg press
180x12
270x12
450x10
540x8
Smith=Sissy Squats
120x10
170x10
190x7
210x6
Leg extensions
150x12
160x10
170x10
180x7

Going to be a long next 48 hours. First snow storm of the season. Short drivers and mechanics,trucks are broke and the storm hasn't even started yet. Whey and rice cakes for the next 36 hours

Macros today C 144g P 295g F 40g

Trying some Cauliflower rice with dinner
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@Warthog61 I'll tell you what if you continue eating this clean, then not only are you going to have an amazing physique, you're also going to get so much healthier over time. That is great man. Keep up the good work on the food preparation.

 

[Warthog61]

@Warthog61 I'll tell you what if you continue eating this clean, then not only are you going to have an amazing physique, you're also going to get so much healthier over time. That is great man. Keep up the good work on the food preparation.

It has been working for the past few months. Reaping the benefits is the goal! Thanks for the support!

 

[2Thick]

It has been working for the past few months. Reaping the benefits is the goal! Thanks for the support!

the benefits of eating healthy and food prep cannot be overstated. it is important. it is what separates the champs from the pretenders @Warthog61

 

[Warthog61]

OOOF!
@HarleyGuy @LevButlerov @Allupfromhere

 

[LevButlerov]

OOOF!View attachment 149686
@HarleyGuy @LevButlerov @Allupfromhere

your e2 levels are good if anything a bit low @Warthog61

 

[HarleyGuy]

OOOF!View attachment 149686
@HarleyGuy @LevButlerov @Allupfromhere

Sooo.... a hard NO to below LOL but you're fine at that marker.

Hopefully 29 so I can play with eq at maybe 300

 

[Warthog61]

Sooo.... a hard NO to below LOL but you're fine at that marker.

Ohh well. Trial and error, ill leave the eq alone but may up the test to maybe 500 for the remainder

 

[Noah Wixx]

0430 40min treadmill speed 3.4 incline 8

1530 warmup
Leg extensions (warmup)
2x140x12
Outer thigh machine
3x110x12 hold
Leg press
180x12
270x12
450x10
540x8
Smith=Sissy Squats
120x10
170x10
190x7
210x6
Leg extensions
150x12
160x10
170x10
180x7

Going to be a long next 48 hours. First snow storm of the season. Short drivers and mechanics,trucks are broke and the storm hasn't even started yet. Whey and rice cakes for the next 36 hours

Macros today C 144g P 295g F 40g

Trying some Cauliflower rice with dinner
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Great food choices and great session

 

[Warthog61]

Sooo.... a hard NO to below LOL but you're fine at that marker.

The real question now is...GH?

 

[Warthog61]

I'm at 33 hours up straight with this snow storm, my guys did good and nobody got hurt. Two more hours to go and i will have a nice salmon dinner waiting for me (hope she doesn't burn it) Back to training tomorrow! Didn't eat horrible overnight but just ate like a bird while plowing, rice cakes, pieces of chicken, cranberries here and there, i did have my normal lunch of chicken , mixed veggies and rice though.

I can't wait to shower!

 

[ROIDDERS]

It has been working for the past few months. Reaping the benefits is the goal! Thanks for the support!

That's good. It's definitely a lifelong pursuit.

 

[LevButlerov]

I'm at 33 hours up straight with this snow storm, my guys did good and nobody got hurt. Two more hours to go and i will have a nice salmon dinner waiting for me (hope she doesn't burn it) Back to training tomorrow! Didn't eat horrible overnight but just ate like a bird while plowing, rice cakes, pieces of chicken, cranberries here and there, i did have my normal lunch of chicken , mixed veggies and rice though.

I can't wait to shower!

33 hours up! are you ok? @Warthog61 get sleep right after

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@toddthelineman @Noah Wixx

 

[Dreamer]

I'm at 33 hours up straight with this snow storm, my guys did good and nobody got hurt. Two more hours to go and i will have a nice salmon dinner waiting for me (hope she doesn't burn it) Back to training tomorrow! Didn't eat horrible overnight but just ate like a bird while plowing, rice cakes, pieces of chicken, cranberries here and there, i did have my normal lunch of chicken , mixed veggies and rice though.

I can't wait to shower!

That meal and shower will feel amazing no doubt