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Lawyerguy1

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Been on doctor monitored trt for a couple years now, gel based, and it works fine. But honestly I get tired of having to go through all the constant monitoring and health insurance pre approval crap and co pays and fluctuating out of pocket after insurance etc. Are there any legit sources where I can just order it? Frankly, even paying cash it would probably be equal to less than dealing with pharmacy/insurance. I'd be looking for the 1.62 percent pump bottles if available but I'd take packets too. Maybe someday I'll just design my own injection protocol but I don't want that headache yet either. Thx
 
Been on doctor monitored trt for a couple years now, gel based, and it works fine. But honestly I get tired of having to go through all the constant monitoring and health insurance pre approval crap and co pays and fluctuating out of pocket after insurance etc. Are there any legit sources where I can just order it? Frankly, even paying cash it would probably be equal to less than dealing with pharmacy/insurance. I'd be looking for the 1.62 percent pump bottles if available but I'd take packets too. Maybe someday I'll just design my own injection protocol but I don't want that headache yet either. Thx
You should really consider injections. Its so simple and easy. It doesnt hurt and its way cheaper.
 
You should really consider injections. Its so simple and easy. It doesnt hurt and its way cheaper.
Yeah I've thought about it and at some point I might go that route, but when I suddenly drop off of the doctor stuff to do my own thing, if I then I try to go back to doctor monitored somehow I suspect I might have issues getting the doctor to just pick up a protocol day 1 without me having to get new baseline readings for insurance approval. I HAVE actually injected myself with things in the past, just with other things and not for TRT (PT 141 is amazing for boners and staying tan. Seriously, rocking tan and teenager level hard-ons). Anyway, as to the TRT stuff and getting baselines, etc, below is a long walk to why. . . And I'd REALLY like to avoid getting baseline readings if I ever do it on my own but then go back to MD monitored. So, looking for gel, to stay consistent, at least for now. . . .

Prior to me being on the MD monitored gel program, frankly I had been doing (on my own, with periodic blood testing and everything) my own clomid based regimen. And frankly I was very successful it worked very well at increasing T levels and I also kept conversion to estrogen down with supplementation also. Anyone on here who thinks you can't do this with clomind is flat our wrong becaue I'm firsthand proof that you can. My bloods were great. Total T a nice therapeutic level 700-800 and free T actually HIGHER than normal range with other hormone levels very normal.

When I decided to stop doing that and went to an endocrinologist he was like "you did what? and also wjhat? and for how long? Let me see your testing yo were doing. really? wow!" It was like I was blowing his mind withthe concept tht you can actually do this shit yourself. BUT. . . . in order to get me on TRT he needed a baseline of me being off everything and so thta was 12 weeks of noting, and tht sucked.
 
Couple of thoughts.

We HIGHLY recommend getting bloods and or visiting an endo annually to have them check you over professionally even if, as many here do, you do your own TRT

You WILL absolutely save a small fortune. Just as an indication (prices change over time of course) I can use any of our recommended sources like PSL, NapsGear or UGFreak and get myself a 10ml vial of Test Cyp (the TRT gold standard AAS) for £35 (and often less in sales) or its dollar eqv. Based on the majority of self TRT users it's 3 weeks at 1ml a week (200-300mg a week) and 1 week off. So 10ml will last you WEEKS. Now compare that to what a clinic charges you. Even the bloods, annual endo appt and syringe/pins/sharps bin comes to a LOT less. Likes 100's if not 1000's of dollars

Gels are kinda crap. They're messy. They can get onto the skin of the GF or partner who does NOT need TRT and it can have an effect. Even getting a proper dose can be hard on the gels. There ARE understandable hang ups associated with syringe users cos of narcotics. Yet diabetics are seen differently. As many users here will tell you once you get past the hang up it becomes a new normal. Just use every safe protocol needed and you'll be fine.

One final tip - get someone else to pin you. WAYYY easier lol
 
I actually prefer the testosterone compounding cream which looks and goes on like body lotion, for me creams I Have a better libido and things function much better in that area for me on the cream vs utilizing injections, be hard to find it I do think one source carries gel I can't remember who though.

Blood work and getting looked at is very necessary and needed to do this the correct way don't skip bloods or a checkup not a good idea.
 
I actually prefer the testosterone compounding cream which looks and goes on like body lotion, for me creams I Have a better libido and things function much better in that area for me on the cream vs utilizing injections, be hard to find it I do think one source carries gel I can't remember who though.

Blood work and getting looked at is very necessary and needed to do this the correct way don't skip bloods or a checkup not a good idea.
Yeah, I wouldn't skip bloodwork I'd just do it on my own like I did when I was doing my clomid regimen. The frustrating aspect of being doctor monitored is the constant insurance preapprovals and administrative fuckups, etc. I don't mind the gel, at least it's convenient. When I first went to doctor monitored TRT I actually said I'd prefer injection and I'd do it myself but they insisted I could only do injection if they did the administration and I don't have time for that shit.
 
Yeah, I wouldn't skip bloodwork I'd just do it on my own like I did when I was doing my clomid regimen. The frustrating aspect of being doctor monitored is the constant insurance preapprovals and administrative fuckups, etc. I don't mind the gel, at least it's convenient. When I first went to doctor monitored TRT I actually said I'd prefer injection and I'd do it myself but they insisted I could only do injection if they did the administration and I don't have time for that shit.
Damn dude I'm sorry you have a shitty doctor and messed up insurance, my doctor gives me 6 refills at a time I do bloods 2 times a year pay 40 bucks for 3 months of cream never any issues
 
Been on doctor monitored trt for a couple years now, gel based, and it works fine. But honestly I get tired of having to go through all the constant monitoring and health insurance pre approval crap and co pays and fluctuating out of pocket after insurance etc. Are there any legit sources where I can just order it? Frankly, even paying cash it would probably be equal to less than dealing with pharmacy/insurance. I'd be looking for the 1.62 percent pump bottles if available but I'd take packets too. Maybe someday I'll just design my own injection protocol but I don't want that headache yet either. Thx
Yeah I've thought about it and at some point I might go that route, but when I suddenly drop off of the doctor stuff to do my own thing, if I then I try to go back to doctor monitored somehow I suspect I might have issues getting the doctor to just pick up a protocol day 1 without me having to get new baseline readings for insurance approval. I HAVE actually injected myself with things in the past, just with other things and not for TRT (PT 141 is amazing for boners and staying tan. Seriously, rocking tan and teenager level hard-ons). Anyway, as to the TRT stuff and getting baselines, etc, below is a long walk to why. . . And I'd REALLY like to avoid getting baseline readings if I ever do it on my own but then go back to MD monitored. So, looking for gel, to stay consistent, at least for now. . . .

Prior to me being on the MD monitored gel program, frankly I had been doing (on my own, with periodic blood testing and everything) my own clomid based regimen. And frankly I was very successful it worked very well at increasing T levels and I also kept conversion to estrogen down with supplementation also. Anyone on here who thinks you can't do this with clomind is flat our wrong becaue I'm firsthand proof that you can. My bloods were great. Total T a nice therapeutic level 700-800 and free T actually HIGHER than normal range with other hormone levels very normal.

When I decided to stop doing that and went to an endocrinologist he was like "you did what? and also wjhat? and for how long? Let me see your testing yo were doing. really? wow!" It was like I was blowing his mind withthe concept tht you can actually do this shit yourself. BUT. . . . in order to get me on TRT he needed a baseline of me being off everything and so thta was 12 weeks of noting, and tht sucked.
Yeah, I wouldn't skip bloodwork I'd just do it on my own like I did when I was doing my clomid regimen. The frustrating aspect of being doctor monitored is the constant insurance preapprovals and administrative fuckups, etc. I don't mind the gel, at least it's convenient. When I first went to doctor monitored TRT I actually said I'd prefer injection and I'd do it myself but they insisted I could only do injection if they did the administration and I don't have time for that shit.
@Lawyerguy1 IM i do agree with the community and I highly recommend you self-TRT , its cheaper and easier and you can subQ the self TRT

but you know most guys on TRT have others issues, even on gels and creams, main issue is the diet training
so even if you do self TRT how about your diet training cardio supps hows that going? please start a new thread with your trt diet training so we can guide you from it and help you get an injectable protocol set up

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
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top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

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___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT Cream Diet Training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/princedaddy-2023-log-here-we-go-again.87659/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log.86174/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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self TRT is a good choice
just make sure you're using a legitimate brand
para pharma has legit test!
 
monstro here
logging your TRT is gonna be the best thing to do for you
this way we can be the doctor for you
 
if you post up your blood work a lot of us on here have hundreds of years of experience where we can tell you what's wrong and what's right in your Bloods
 
a log would be the best thing for you to do
this way we can take a look at all your information and help you get the most out of it
 
it doesn't matter whether you decide to do injections or you decide to do the gel
as long as you're using a legit site and one of our approved sources you will not go wrong
make sure you do a log
 
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if you put down your diet, training, sleep, cardio, and your history that can really go a long way so we can help you

I await your log
 
check out the amazing Transformations guys have been making on here and gals too
the key is getting a log going
 
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