Approved Log Testosterone, Trenbolone, Masteron, Anavar cycle log

[Dan98]

Hi everyone. So im a few days post gyno op and want to get my next cutting cycle dialled in while i have a lot of free time.
This will be my third major cycle and im planning on getting super shredded for an event on new years. My bloods look good after only 2 weeks on cruise and looking to start this next cycle in 6ish weeks (8 week cruise). I seem to respond really well to all the previous compounds iv used and the only side effect i get is fluctuations water retention. Im really layed back, very emotionally and mentally stable with no anger issues at all so im hoping the tren doesn’t effect me to much.

Im sat at 15% BF at 215lbs 6 foot and ideally want sub 10%.

Im going on holiday 6 weeks into the cycle and would love to be shredded by then but that’s probably not going to happen. So i want to try and peak for week 6 then dial it back and peak again for week 12.

So im thinking run the tren from week 2-6 then drop it and run it again from week 8-12. Or should i run it the first 8 week? The last 8 weeks? im open to options because im not sure of the best way to utilise it.


Im thinking 400test E, 400masteron e 50mg of anavar and 200 tren A but like I said i need help with a cycle design for what weeks to run what.

I will supplement with:
8g of omega 3 a day
Multivitamin
1000mg of l-carnitine
10g of Beyond BCAA + EAA by EHPlabs
Liv 52 x8 caps
1000mg of vitamin C
Magnesium
P5p for prolactin
10g creatine
600mg tudca
300mg nac
100mg milk thistle

I cant get n2guard

So open to more suggestions on supplements.

My maintenance calories are currently around 3800 so i will begin by reducing 300 calories and slowly go down from there.

Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.

 

[LittleTimeTrouble]

You need 2g of l-carnitine or 200 mg injectable to have any results. It’s oral bioavailability is shit.

Other than that, I think it is way more gear than you need to maintain muscle in a cut. Probably 200 test, 200 mast and 75 tren is more than sufficient.

 

[Dan98]

You need 2g of l-carnitine or 200 mg injectable to have any results. It’s oral bioavailability is shit.

Other than that, I think it is way more gear than you need to maintain muscle in a cut. Probably 200 test, 200 mast and 75 tren is more than sufficient.

Okay thanks. I agree but I wouldn’t mind actually making some gains hence the dose

 

[LittleTimeTrouble]

At your size, gains in a deficit are pretty unlikely, but good luck!

 

[Dan98]

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At your size, gains in a deficit are pretty unlikely, but good luck!

isnt that what trens all about though, recomp in a deficit. People usually lose fat but maintain weight due to the gains from tren

 

[LittleTimeTrouble]

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isnt that what trens all about though, recomp in a deficit. People usually lose fat but maintain weight due to the gains from tren

Yes, but from what I can tell, the particular effect of tren in a deficit is that it binds to the glucocorticoid receptor very strongly, which inhibits muscle breakdown. But that effect is maximized somewhere between 50-100 mg/wk. After that, it is just another steroid, but with higher side effects. I don’t tren myself, but that is what the studies indicate.

 

[s.gentz]

Im thinking 400test E, 400masteron e 50mg of anavar and 200 tren A but like I said i need help with a cycle design for what weeks to run what.

Test and Anavar are a great cutting stack. No need for the tren or mast unless you are in competition prep. Your not gonna build muscle in a deficit your just looking to maintain. Small deficit and proper training/diet/cardio will get you there no problem.
wk 1-12 test 400mg
wk 1-4 50mg anavar
wk 8-12 50mg anavar or winstrol or both.

 

[Dan98]

Test and Anavar are a great cutting stack. No need for the tren or mast unless you are in competition prep. Your not gonna build muscle in a deficit your just looking to maintain. Small deficit and proper training/diet/cardio will get you there no problem.
wk 1-12 test 400mg
wk 1-4 50mg anavar
wk 8-12 50mg anavar or winstrol or both.

Cheers, I already have the mast and tren so id like to utilise them. I do have a small comp event near new years

 

[s.gentz]

Are they both short ester? If so I would run them toward the end (week 6-12) then drop everything a week out from your comp. If they are long ester your kinda stuck using them for the duration or they really won't be as effective as they could be.

 

[Dan98]

Are they both short ester? If so I would run them toward the end (week 6-12) then drop everything a week out from your comp. If they are long ester your kinda stuck using them for the duration or they really won't be as effective as they could be.

The tren is ace and masteron is E unfortunately

 

[s.gentz]

I would run the tren last 5-6 weeks then and either drop the mast and save it or run it the entire time.
test 1-12 400mg/wk
tren 6-12 250mg/wk
Mast 1-12 500-600mg wk or don't run it. (I wouldn't bother) Run some winstrol last 4 weeks to harden up. 50mg/day
Anavar 50-80mg daily wk 1-5
Make sure you have an AI on hand in case you need it but i suspect you won't especially if you run the mast. Have it on hand though.
Assuming you don't PCT?
You should really run some carderine as well with the tren.
You don't get into specifics about your training and diet. What will a typical week look like?

 

[Dan98]

I would run the tren last 5-6 weeks then and either drop the mast and save it or run it the entire time.
test 1-12 400mg/wk
tren 6-12 250mg/wk
Mast 1-12 500-600mg wk or don't run it. (I wouldn't bother) Run some winstrol last 4 weeks to harden up. 50mg/day
Anavar 50-80mg daily wk 1-5
Make sure you have an AI on hand in case you need it but i suspect you won't especially if you run the mast. Have it on hand though.
Assuming you don't PCT?
You should really run some carderine as well with the tren.
You don't get into specifics about your training and diet. What will a typical week look like?

That sounds really good actually, cheers. Id like to use the masteron as like I mentioned i suffer heavily with random weeks of water retention and im hoping the masteron will keep me dry throughout. I’ll definitely throw in some carderine to. What dose do you suggest? All the info is in my bulking log but ill add it to here when I start
Thread 'My test, Dbol, Deca, proviron bulking cycle'
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-test-dbol-deca-proviron-bulking-cycle.90730/

 

[Dan98]

I would run the tren last 5-6 weeks then and either drop the mast and save it or run it the entire time.
test 1-12 400mg/wk
tren 6-12 250mg/wk
Mast 1-12 500-600mg wk or don't run it. (I wouldn't bother) Run some winstrol last 4 weeks to harden up. 50mg/day
Anavar 50-80mg daily wk 1-5
Make sure you have an AI on hand in case you need it but i suspect you won't especially if you run the mast. Have it on hand though.
Assuming you don't PCT?
You should really run some carderine as well with the tren.
You don't get into specifics about your training and diet. What will a typical week look like?

I might run the tren at 200mg a week for the first 6 weeks to try and get as lean as possible for my trip then add it in again 2 weeks out (week 10) What do you think?

 

[s.gentz]

Carderine is 20mg daily
Your log looks god. Food is on point. You should have an easy time getting to your goal. Your not far off and you've got your shit together. I'll be following.

 

[Dan98]

Carderine is 20mg daily
Your log looks god. Food is on point. You should have an easy time getting to your goal. Your not far off and you've got your shit together. I'll be following.

Cheers man. Just hoping i dont lose to much gains while recovering from surgery another reason i want the tren in early on

 

[s.gentz]

I might run the tren at 200mg a week for the first 6 weeks to try and get as lean as possible for my trip then add it in again 2 weeks out (week 10) What do you think?

IMO i would run it like i said with the end goal in mind. Your diet is good enough that you be be in great condition just with that in 6 weeks. Don't rush losing weight. That's when you have issues maintaining muscle.

 

[stevesmi]

I can't see in your thread if you say or not, but I'm pretty sure its the first time you are using tren

tren effects people different. Some guys will shred up on it like you won't believe and other guys will gain a lot of Mass on it quickly.

I'm personally not a fan of using it to cut down, however, it can be effective for that purpose. So it will be interesting to follow this log and see how you do.

I've been successful with it for Pure mass and strength. Nothing will add strength like it will.

 

[s.gentz]

Cheers man. Just hoping i dont lose to much gains while recovering from surgery another reason i want the tren in early on

Running what your are now will be fine for keeping gains at maintenance.

 

[Dan98]

I can't see in your thread if you say or not, but I'm pretty sure its the first time you are using tren

tren effects people different. Some guys will shred up on it like you won't believe and other guys will gain a lot of Mass on it quickly.

I'm personally not a fan of using it to cut down, however, it can be effective for that purpose. So it will be interesting to follow this log and see how you do.

I've been successful with it for Pure mass and strength. Nothing will add strength like it will.

Yeah never used it before so hoping the metal sides are tolerable. Iv done high doses of test deca and dbol and didn’t feel any more aggression than when i was natural so hopefully ill be okay. Yeah im hoping i can get the best of both worlds and gain some more size and lean up but we will see

 

[s.gentz]

Yeah im hoping i can get the best of both worlds and gain some more size and lean up but we will see

You can't cut and recomp. You need to plan for one or the other. For cutting you will need to run deficit. For a recomp you would need to be at maintenance or just slightly above. Your not gonna build muscle in a deficit. If you've never tried to recomp i would suggest not trying it if you have important events coming up. Save it for when you can focus on just the recomp. The first couple times i tried i ended up bulking. It def takes a little trial and error to find out what will work for you. It's not a one size fits all scenario.