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Thaiger Pharma - 500MG P/WK BW came back at 700 test

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Hey fellas.

I picked up Test Cyp, Anavar, and Dbol 3 months ago.

I just got bloodwork recently, about 12 total weeks in and 3 days after a shot to get a low point, came back at 700 total test and 63 estrogen (elevated ??) Way, way off.

I was also taking pharma arimidex 0.25mg with every shot (pinning 2x p/wk) during this "blast" for 12 wks.

My natural total T would be around 200/250 right now without any TRT, so the test had to be doing something and just be extremely, extremely, underdosed (like 1/6th of what it should be)

Has anyone had an experience with Thaiger Pharma before? Am I missing something?

I did run all of the products authentication codes on thaigers website and they all came back as "this product is legit"

It hurts me to have to throw out these bottles and the orals I am super skeptical of now. Is there anything we can do besides send samples in to private labs and wait a few weeks for responses on confirmation of concentration / substance? I've tried RoidTest.com for the orals and the anavar from Thaiger came back as a Tbol color in one, and then actually anavar in the other.

Now I'm looking into PSL, but that'll be a separate thread for itself. I'm super paranoid now, I don't understand how / why the test from Thaiger could have been so underdosed.

I'm back on pharma test at 200mg p/wk and will take another set of bloods in 4 weeks, 3 days after a shot, to see where my base is with pharma.
 
I guess another question here would be which labs are recommended to send products out to?

Have heard good things about Janoshik.

I'm very paranoid with ensuring the concentration / substance is correct especially after this lil ordeal.
 
Hey fellas.

I picked up Test Cyp, Anavar, and Dbol 3 months ago.

I just got bloodwork recently, about 12 total weeks in and 3 days after a shot to get a low point, came back at 700 total test and 63 estrogen (elevated ??) Way, way off.

I was also taking pharma arimidex 0.25mg with every shot (pinning 2x p/wk) during this "blast" for 12 wks.

My natural total T would be around 200/250 right now without any TRT, so the test had to be doing something and just be extremely, extremely, underdosed (like 1/6th of what it should be)

Has anyone had an experience with Thaiger Pharma before? Am I missing something?

I did run all of the products authentication codes on thaigers website and they all came back as "this product is legit"

It hurts me to have to throw out these bottles and the orals I am super skeptical of now. Is there anything we can do besides send samples in to private labs and wait a few weeks for responses on confirmation of concentration / substance? I've tried RoidTest.com for the orals and the anavar from Thaiger came back as a Tbol color in one, and then actually anavar in the other.

Now I'm looking into PSL, but that'll be a separate thread for itself. I'm super paranoid now, I don't understand how / why the test from Thaiger could have been so underdosed.

I'm back on pharma test at 200mg p/wk and will take another set of bloods in 4 weeks, 3 days after a shot, to see where my base is with pharma.
@fmpsys welcome to the evolutionary.org family

on thairger, or you mean thaigear? both are fakes and often contain fakes but it doesnt mean yours are fake
there could be many reasons you not making gains and it could be a bit underdosed too

i would go with PSL if you want high quality gear euro pharmacies is lab tested

but really you understand @fmpsys your results are purely based on diet training and even your test results can be different due to those issues

so what i want to see is your diet training log on your trt test and see what you're doing

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT Diet Training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/princedaddy-2023-log-here-we-go-again.87659/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log.86174/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
 
@fmpsys welcome to the evolutionary.org family

on thairger, or you mean thaigear? both are fakes and often contain fakes but it doesnt mean yours are fake
there could be many reasons you not making gains and it could be a bit underdosed too

i would go with PSL if you want high quality gear euro pharmacies is lab tested

but really you understand @fmpsys your results are purely based on diet training and even your test results can be different due to those issues

so what i want to see is your diet training log on your trt test and see what you're doing

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT Diet Training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/princedaddy-2023-log-here-we-go-again.87659/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log.86174/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
I'll post a journal some point this week, I track all of my shots and training.
I'm 6ft 195lbs training 6x p/wk

I'd say I eat around 3-3500 cals p/day roughly 400g carbs / 100g fat / 225g protein

I hear what you are saying @LevButlerov but in regards to having a 750 total test on 500mg p/wk I don't see being possible for anyone on legit testosterone, regardless of any type of stats or years of training they may or may not have.
 
we've had all our sponsor products randomly tested and they are all good to go
I personally recommend my friends at napsgear.org
 
we've had all our sponsor products randomly tested and they are all good to go
I personally recommend my friends at napsgear.org
Seems like Naps offers several brands, one of which is Euro-Pharmacies, and all of it is marked up 20-30% from what PSL already has it listed as.

Am I missing something?

For example on Naps:
Test C Euro Pharmacies 10ML - $90 (https://www.napsgear.org/euro-pharmacies-c142195/1-testosterone-cypionate-p26161)

On PSL
Test C Euro Pharmacies 10ML - $59 (https://puritysourcelabs.ru/ep-inje...terone-cypionate-200mgml-10mlvial-ep-usa.html)

Both domestic options.
 
there is more underdose gear floating out there than ever before
it's important to make sure that you're only buying from legitimate sources
that said hope to see a log from you !
 
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this needs to be logged
I've done several logs myself and I've always had my best results when I log
 
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