Thoughts on my 12th cycle?

[TheMassMonster]

Hey you guys! This is my first post on here so make sure to tell me if i do anything wrong. This would be my 12th cycle(my poor organs) and i was just looking for some thoughts, or ideas. I am looking to go for my pro card soon, so i thought i would make a leap. I know this is a lot and i know that some people might get mad at me. Let me tell you about me...

I am 38, i am 5'9 200 lbs and 10% bodyfat! I will be eating very clean and doing at least 700 calorie surplus, along with getting mainly protein.
I am planning on running...

Heavy liver supplements
Heavy kidney Supplements
Telsmirtan 40mg(i already have elavated bp)
an SSRI or anxiety and depression med which i currently am still deciding on.

16 week cycle

Caber: 0.25mg whenever needed
Arimidex 1mg every 3 or 4 days(they did not have any lower dosages)
1-16 Test E:800mg
1-16 Tren E:275mg
1-16 NPP;800mg
1-11 Anavar 50mg
1-16 MK 677 25mg
1-16 Cardine 20mg
1-16 S9: 10mg every 4 hours
1-6 dbol 30mg
6-12 anadrol 50mg
1-16 provirin 40mg

PCT

Nolvadex
Clomid
HCG
MK 677 25mg

Thanks you guys! Kinda a bad start to my first log with all these coumponds. I have used somethings pretty close to this before and i wanted to experiment a little bit. I know it is def overkill. Just looking for the most strength and size. Thanks you guys! Have a good day!

 

[ReturnOfTheMeathead]

holy shit dude. this is not good lol. do NOT run tren AND NPP together. goodness. also running dbol 6 weeks then anadrol 6 is a recipe for disaster in terms of your health. i would drop that test dose down to 500 at minimum. the E version of tren trust me you dont want that in your system. go with Ace. have you considered mast or primo? or anavar as your oral? tren and anadrol are the 2 most mentally damaging drugs you can do. dorian yates used to run test and primo and anavar then throw tren in pre-comp. id say he turned out ok.

 

[ReturnOfTheMeathead]

i see anavar now. this is too much man.

 

[LittleTimeTrouble]

I think you forgot something.

 

[TheMassMonster]

holy shit dude. this is not good lol. do NOT run tren AND NPP together. goodness. also running dbol 6 weeks then anadrol 6 is a recipe for disaster in terms of your health. i would drop that test dose down to 500 at minimum. the E version of tren trust me you dont want that in your system. go with Ace. have you considered mast or primo? or anavar as your oral? tren and anadrol are the 2 most mentally damaging drugs you can do. dorian yates used to run test and primo and anavar then throw tren in pre-comp. id say he turned out ok.

I know, I know, I will prob die….

 

[TheMassMonster]

I think you forgot something.

Creatine!

 

[ReturnOfTheMeathead]

I know, I know, I will prob die….

heres the thing you wont die. you will possibly do damage to something that wont be reversible. and are you a powerlifter? this is an insane stack. most powerlifters run test with tren then throw in an oral pre-contest like halotestin. most mr olympia bodybuilders dont run this lol. run test 250 and primo 600. then the last 4-6 weeks run anavar 20 mg daily. trust me. ive been at this a long time lol. you could do tren ace 100 mg eod the last 4 weeks.

 

[TheMassMonster]

holy shit dude. this is not good lol. do NOT run tren AND NPP together. goodness. also running dbol 6 weeks then anadrol 6 is a recipe for disaster in terms of your health. i would drop that test dose down to 500 at minimum. the E version of tren trust me you dont want that in your system. go with Ace. have you considered mast or primo? or anavar as your oral? tren and anadrol are the 2 most mentally damaging drugs you can do. dorian yates used to run test and primo and anavar then throw tren in pre-comp. id say he turned out ok.

FS FS I know it is overkill, I wanted proviron instead of primo or mast. I guess you right about Dbol and adrol, I just am addicted to orals. I have used Anadrol (50mg) and dbol (20mg) together and it has came back amazing with my liver. I thought i would through in Anavar.

 

[ReturnOfTheMeathead]

FS FS I know it is overkill, I wanted proviron instead of primo or mast. I guess you right about Dbol and adrol, I just am addicted to orals. I have used Anadrol (50mg) and dbol (20mg) together and it has came back amazing with my liver. I thought i would through in Anavar.

even if the liver enzymes look ok you are still damaging the liver. first its fatty liver disease then its cirrhosis then its failure.

 

[TheMassMonster]

heres the thing you wont die. you will possibly do damage to something that wont be reversible. and are you a powerlifter? this is an insane stack. most powerlifters run test with tren then throw in an oral pre-contest like halotestin. most mr olympia bodybuilders dont run this lol. run test 250 and primo 600. then the last 4-6 weeks run anavar 20 mg daily. trust me. ive been at this a long time lol.

I am a powerlifter and my body has always had a hard tolerance to high amounts, I started off with home brewing my stuff so I am sure it is good quality and then I did 500mg test as my first cycle. I made like 6 pounds after pct. My body has always been weird tbh. I feel like as long as a feel good and my bloods look good then I am good. The last test I did after my Test, Tren, NPP, and anadrol cycle, came back great and I felt amazing on it. IDK if bodybuilding or powerlifting is my sport because of this but my bloods have came back always good no matter what. I am not to worried. Thanks for the reply!

 

[ReturnOfTheMeathead]

tren ace really 50 mgs eod is enough for 99% of people.

 

[TheMassMonster]

tren ace really 50 mgs eod is enough for 99% of people.

Will do, sound like enough to me. Thanks bro!

 

[stevesmi]

Hey you guys! This is my first post on here so make sure to tell me if i do anything wrong. This would be my 12th cycle(my poor organs) and i was just looking for some thoughts, or ideas. I am looking to go for my pro card soon, so i thought i would make a leap. I know this is a lot and i know that some people might get mad at me. Let me tell you about me...

I am 38, i am 5'9 200 lbs and 10% bodyfat! I will be eating very clean and doing at least 700 calorie surplus, along with getting mainly protein.
I am planning on running...

Heavy liver supplements
Heavy kidney Supplements
Telsmirtan 40mg(i already have elavated bp)
an SSRI or anxiety and depression med which i currently am still deciding on.

16 week cycle

Caber: 0.25mg whenever needed
Arimidex 1mg every 3 or 4 days(they did not have any lower dosages)
1-16 Test E:800mg
1-16 Tren E:275mg
1-16 NPP;800mg
1-11 Anavar 50mg
1-16 MK 677 25mg
1-16 Cardine 20mg
1-16 S9: 10mg every 4 hours
1-6 dbol 30mg
6-12 anadrol 50mg
1-16 provirin 40mg

PCT

Nolvadex
Clomid
HCG
MK 677 25mg

Thanks you guys! Kinda a bad start to my first log with all these coumponds. I have used somethings pretty close to this before and i wanted to experiment a little bit. I know it is def overkill. Just looking for the most strength and size. Thanks you guys! Have a good day!

welcome to the forum
I would love to see some pictures and you get a log going so we can track your progress
this is quite a cycle and extremely expensive so it wouldn't be something that I would ever recommend unless the person was a professional

 

[TheMassMonster]

welcome to the forum
I would love to see some pictures and you get a log going so we can track your progress
this is quite a cycle and extremely expensive so it wouldn't be something that I would ever recommend unless the person was a professional

Okay will do! Glad to get a reply from one of the greats! I know it is a hefty cost on my budget and organs. I recently cut down from most of the orals and most of the dosages. For a minute there all I wanted was gains and to not care about my health, thanks for snapping me back out of it. i have a pretty high budget with my income right now but I will definitely be starting a log soon, I just don’t know how.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Hey you guys! This is my first post on here so make sure to tell me if i do anything wrong. This would be my 12th cycle(my poor organs) and i was just looking for some thoughts, or ideas. I am looking to go for my pro card soon, so i thought i would make a leap. I know this is a lot and i know that some people might get mad at me. Let me tell you about me...

I am 38, i am 5'9 200 lbs and 10% bodyfat! I will be eating very clean and doing at least 700 calorie surplus, along with getting mainly protein.
I am planning on running...

Heavy liver supplements
Heavy kidney Supplements
Telsmirtan 40mg(i already have elavated bp)
an SSRI or anxiety and depression med which i currently am still deciding on.

16 week cycle

Caber: 0.25mg whenever needed
Arimidex 1mg every 3 or 4 days(they did not have any lower dosages)
1-16 Test E:800mg
1-16 Tren E:275mg
1-16 NPP;800mg
1-11 Anavar 50mg
1-16 MK 677 25mg
1-16 Cardine 20mg
1-16 S9: 10mg every 4 hours
1-6 dbol 30mg
6-12 anadrol 50mg
1-16 provirin 40mg

PCT

Nolvadex
Clomid
HCG
MK 677 25mg

Thanks you guys! Kinda a bad start to my first log with all these coumponds. I have used somethings pretty close to this before and i wanted to experiment a little bit. I know it is def overkill. Just looking for the most strength and size. Thanks you guys! Have a good day!

@TheMassMonster thats a big boy cycle but you're 12 cycles in you must know what you're doing

obviously talking you out of the cycle is not needed but i would drop npp to 600mgs thats enough

this would be a great log to share with the community so lets see you post up your cycle log for this big cycle

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My 12th Steroid Cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/princedaddy-2023-log-here-we-go-again.87659/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log.86174/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
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[TheMassMonster]

@TheMassMonster thats a big boy cycle but you're 12 cycles in you must know what you're doing

obviously talking you out of the cycle is not needed but i would drop npp to 600mgs thats enough

this would be a great log to share with the community so lets see you post up your cycle log for this big cycle

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My 12th Steroid Cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/princedaddy-2023-log-here-we-go-again.87659/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log.86174/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

What! I came here for opinions on this, so don’t think that you can’t critique my cycle. I am 100% open to change anything and I probably should. I def will drop NPP down to like 500mg, I also dropped most-if not all the orals, and lowered the doses. I was on a manic high that day for gains and I made some big mistakes when designing it. I will post up on my log soon! Thanks so much man, you the best!

 

[Mobster]

What's the thinking behind 'deciding on' which SSRI?

 

[TheMassMonster]

What's the thinking behind 'deciding on' which SSRI?

There is just so many of them, I wanted to decide on which one is the best for my anxiety and depression on cycles along with just trying to avoid it. I just am not sure which SSRI I will use yet.

 

[LittleTimeTrouble]

If you need ssris on cycle step away from the neurotoxicity compounds like tren and npp for gods sake.

 

[TheMassMonster]

If you need ssris on cycle step away from the neurotoxicity compounds like tren and npp for gods sake.

I was prescribed them……but I want to change it up. My doc is chill, and he would help me with that. I was presc them before I started any cycling at all. So just mind your own stuff bro and stop hating on everything I post.