Tired 3 weeks into cycle!

[Journeyman85]

Hi folks, relatively new here so apologies if I’m posting in the wrong place. I’m 37 89kgs and about 5’8. Been training a few years and generally used test(600mg) and anavar cycles front loaded with 1 week of dbol. Never needed an AI.
This time around I front loaded 2 weeks of 30mg of dbol and running a 12 week cycle of test (300) master (400) and tren (150). I’m 3 weeks into this cycle and I’m feeling awfully tired, all the time? I used Arimidex 0.5 twice a week since I started- but I’m wondering if I’ve crashed my E2? Anyone else experienced these lethargic tired feeling so early into a cycle? I figured it’s too early to be the test/mast tren? BP average 140-150/75 is elevated but the doctor doesn’t seem to worried yet. I figured it’s from the dbol (I’m no doc). Just hoping some more experienced heads could offer some wisdom?

 

[stevesmi]

Likely a combination of factors man
I will take a step back and consolidate your cycle. Maybe drop some thing or lower dosing just to get things back under control for you. Also, one of the problems is getting blood work and seeing where your estrogen is at most blood work will give you a false positive on estrogen because of using tren

This is why it’s not a good idea to throw a bunch of things together and then hope it works out without knowing your body inside and out first

 

[Journeyman85]

Much appreciated, will take the advice!

 

[Mobster]

People train harder on cycle = tired.

 

[Journeyman85]

Any chance it could be RBC ? I’ve kept my training regime the same - haven’t increased weights much as yet.

 

[dylangemelli]

brother, you are trying to hypothesize answers here without bloodwork.. that does you NO good whatsoever, period.. there are multiple factors that could in play here and attempting to "guess" at what it is, could have you potentially treating the wrong problem and then making things worse off than they were..

there is a good chance it is the toxicity from dbol, and yourl iver is telling you that, or it could be estrogen related or it could potentially be another factor but guessing and hypothesizing does you absolutely no good.. you need actual confirmation and the only way to get that is through bloodwork

 

[Mobster]

Any chance it could be RBC ? I’ve kept my training regime the same - haven’t increased weights much as yet.

So... on cycle and changed NOTHING else. Kinda pointless being on a cycle. But have a look at the side effects of steroids you chose to use (inc any effect on bloods etc)

 

[ballin2504]

Just get your blood work done

 

[LevButlerov]

Hi folks, relatively new here so apologies if I’m posting in the wrong place. I’m 37 89kgs and about 5’8. Been training a few years and generally used test(600mg) and anavar cycles front loaded with 1 week of dbol. Never needed an AI.
This time around I front loaded 2 weeks of 30mg of dbol and running a 12 week cycle of test (300) master (400) and tren (150). I’m 3 weeks into this cycle and I’m feeling awfully tired, all the time? I used Arimidex 0.5 twice a week since I started- but I’m wondering if I’ve crashed my E2? Anyone else experienced these lethargic tired feeling so early into a cycle? I figured it’s too early to be the test/mast tren? BP average 140-150/75 is elevated but the doctor doesn’t seem to worried yet. I figured it’s from the dbol (I’m no doc). Just hoping some more experienced heads could offer some wisdom?

Any chance it could be RBC ? I’ve kept my training regime the same - haven’t increased weights much as yet.

@Journeyman85 welcome to the evolutionary.org family!

You're posting in the right place not wrong place.

feeling bad on cycle? well that could be related to arimidex, could be trenbolone could be BP could be your food that you eat.
You do understand that we know NOTHING about you right? like we are guessing from air here.
What we need is for you to share with us asap.
Please start a NEW thread with your LOG journal diary, where you give us cycle info in detail, your diet, training, sleep, cardio, supplements and we will guide this cycle as a team but START the log!

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

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[ceo]

Bros A lot of things can be happening here
simply putting on a lot of weight fast can definitely lead to lethargy

 

[ROIDDERS]

we definitely need to see a log Journal
we need to see some pictures to see where you're at

 

[chesty]

you didn't give us much to work with at all
of course if you put on a lot of strength and size quickly you will feel tired

 

[Ulter]

if I was you I would get up a log immediately
this is going to help us help you

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

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[e2]

love to see a log out of you
we have years of experience and will be able to adjust things along the way

 

[2Thick]

don't give up on cycling steroids
a lot of times you get lethargic and it will go away but it's hard to really help you without more information

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

best thing you can do is put up a log
this way we can learn more about you and your history and help guide you

 

[MONSTRO]

monstro says that maybe your estrogen is too high
sometimes high estrogen can lead to being tired

 

[JasonPriest]

where did you get your gear?
i hope you got it from domestic supply so we know its good

 

[Quadsweep]

definitely important to get quality gear
a lot of times you get low quality products and have issues that are preventable
this is why i like ugfreak.to and para pharma products