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Approved Log Training and Diet - Natural Testosterone Recovery Log

Pull day - 2
15 min incline walk 5.5km/h-15 degree incline
First workout using injectable carnitine

I felt significant post-injection pain in my deltoid during my session.
I injected 1ml of l carnitine this morning .5mls into my side deltoid and the remaining .5mls into my rear deltoid for a total dosage of 600mg. I felt pip right after finishing my injection. It has been a while since I have injected anything into my body.

First movement
Close grip pull-down
Warm up set 1 27 kg -20 reps
Warm up set 2 - 36kg-15 reps
Warm up set 3-45 kg - 12 reps


Working set 1 -2 min rest
64kg-15 reps
68-12 reps
68kg- 12 reps
Drop set -54kg- reps 15 reps

I wasn’t able to train as heavily today due to the pain in my deltoid from my morning injection. I still felt a good pump when performing this movement and I trained within 1 rep shy of failure on my working sets.

Cable Rows
45 kg - 15 reps I consider this a warm-up set.
The weight felt easy— I enjoy using strict form when doing unsupported rows to focus on getting a great contraction in the lats.

1st working set 50kg- 15 reps

2nd working set 68kg- 15reps

drop set 27 kg I performed this movement leaning forward as much as I can during the Eccentric portion of the movement great stretch.

Single-arm pull-downs
-41 kg warm up set just feeling the movement and establishing the mind-muscle connection

1st working set 54kg working set 10 reps

2nd working set- 54kg 10 reps
3rd working set -54kg- 10 reps

Assisted pull-ups
Attempted Body weight. However, this felt too challenging for me today my shoulder just didn’t feel stable when I attempted a body weight rep. I can usually rep out pull-ups fairly easily but just didn’t feel up to it today.

First set - 9 kg assisted 20 reps
Second set 15 reps- 9kg of assistance
Final set 15 reps - 9kg of assistance

Rope pull overs
Set 1 27kg 20 reps
Set 2 36 kg 20 reps
Set 3- 45 kg -15 reps

Seated row upper back
Working set 59kg- 10 reps
-59kg-11 reps
59kg- 11 reps

Biceps machine curls
Set 1 41 kg 10 reps
2 41 kg 10 reps
3 41 kg 10 reps

Ezy bar curls
1st set - 30kg - 15 reps
2nd ser -30kg 15 reps
3rd set- 30kg 12 reps

Rear delts I attempted machine fly’s as this is a staple for me to finish off rear delts after back day. Given that I had injected into my rear delts today. I just didn’t feel comfortable training with my usual weights when performing rear delts flys. I will add in rear delts to tomorrow's session depending on how my delts feel.

Overall thoughts. I am looking forward to experiencing some benefits from carnitine for fat loss enhancement and increased cognitive function. I thought about using GW however I just worry about the cancer risk even though I know there is such a small chance that gw would cause cancer in a human. I may experiment with GW next year.

I would like to increase my calories a little. I have been receiving feedback from other regular gymgoers at my local gym that I am looking quite skinny and have lost muscle. This has been getting to me as I have put so much effort into my training over the years.

I believe this is true. I most likely have lost some muscle from my low test levels and inability to Train with the weights that I was using while on cycle due to elbow tendinitis.
I have not taken any time off the gym since I completed my pct and I don’t plan to. I know that I will easily be able to regain any lost muscle after I am recovered.

I will post my full day of eating later on today. I plan use l carnitine for fasted cardio tomorrow. I will take 2 rest days from weights before recommencing my training split.

Do you guys have any experience with using peptides for sleep enhancement?

I have a prescription for medicinal cannabis which gave me better sleep initially however now I become desensitised to it. I have suffered with insomnia for a while now.

Would using low-dose gh be beneficial for sleep enhancement?
I have tried most natural sleep aids. I have used stronger meds in the past such as benzodiazepines but I am looking for a healthier long-term solution to achieving better sleep quality. View attachment 19051
@gunelanie4987 PIP is going to happen from this, its liquid right? you warm it up and make sure no crytals

training on point DO IT
but on the gw, cardarine doesn't have any cancer links we already have this discussed a log, cardarine gw501516 is not related to cancer at normal dose
you can read about it here
https://www.evolutionary.org/gw-501516-cardarine-cancer
 
Full day of eating 17 th December.

Meal 1 half a cup of oats
150 grams strawberries
2 scoops of whey protein
100 mls almond milk.

Meal 2 1 cup of oats
2 scoops of whey protein
200 grams strawberries

Meal 3 - snack
Chicken wrap
200 grams mixed vegtables
1 slice lot fat cheese
150 grams chicken breast

Meal 4
350 grams stir fry vegetables. My mother works at an Asian restaurant and constantly gives me leftover vegetables from her work.

I enjoy including a large amount of vegetables in my diet as they keep me full and stop me from binge eating.
As a youngster getting into training I had issues with binge eating in the hopes of packing on size. I ended up getting fat after 2 years of bulking when I first began lifting at 16.

I made a small dessert after this meal

50 grams oats
1 scoop of whey
100 mls full cream milk.
100 grams banana.

My diet may seem repetitive but I genuinely enjoy these foods. I plan to incorporate some different meals as I increase my calories gradually still eating clean of course.

Hope you guys are enjoying the weekend and still getting after it.

Im keen for fasted cardio tomorrow morning 2 days off work to enjoy.

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i like this update on the diet but would really be happy if you changed to blueberries instead of strawberries
 
@gunelanie4987 PIP is going to happen from this, its liquid right? you warm it up and make sure no crytals

training on point DO IT
but on the gw, cardarine doesn't have any cancer links we already have this discussed a log, cardarine gw501516 is not related to cancer at normal dose
you can read about it here
https://www.evolutionary.org/gw-501516-cardarine-cancer
Yeah I think I’ll order some. I can stack it with my injectable carnitine.

What are your thoughts on using a low dose of growth hormone for the sleep enhancement? Do you think this would be beneficial.

I have tried mk677 in the past which worked well but I am worried about the increased appetite from mk677.
 
Yeah I think I’ll order some. I can stack it with my injectable carnitine.

What are your thoughts on using a low dose of growth hormone for the sleep enhancement? Do you think this would be beneficial.

I have tried mk677 in the past which worked well but I am worried about the increased appetite from mk677.
You could try CJC1295/GHRP2 to have extra growth hormone without the really strong hunger effect, also I think straight up HGH doesn’t make you as hungry as MK677 does. MK677 and GHRP6 seek to have a reputation for really insane hunger increase
 
You could try CJC1295/GHRP2 to have extra growth hormone without the really strong hunger effect, also I think straight up HGH doesn’t make you as hungry as MK677 does. MK677 and GHRP6 seek to have a reputation for really insane hunger increase
Yeah, I have heard other members of the forum speaking highly about CJC1295.
I will look into it I don't want to have to resort to using stronger medications such as amitriptyline to get me to sleep the side effects would be nasty not to mention the withdrawals after you get off the medication.

I have an appointment with a sleep physician early next year for a sleep study. Hopefully, I can identify if my breathing may be the reason I am unable to achieve a full night's rest without multiple awakenings throughout the night.
 
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Yeah I think I’ll order some. I can stack it with my injectable carnitine.

What are your thoughts on using a low dose of growth hormone for the sleep enhancement? Do you think this would be beneficial.

I have tried mk677 in the past which worked well but I am worried about the increased appetite from mk677.
@gunelanie4987 cardarine is a good idea, check umrella labs they are approved
https://umbrellalabs.is/shop/sarms/sarm-liquid/gw-501516-cardarine-20mg-ml

well HGH didn't help me sleep much but nutrobal mk677 did, appetite is an issue, so go try some natural hgh booster like nutrozol 677 2 caps before bed will make you sleep and boost hgh via herbal route
https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/store/Nutrozol_677
 
@gunelanie4987 cardarine is a good idea, check umrella labs they are approved
https://umbrellalabs.is/shop/sarms/sarm-liquid/gw-501516-cardarine-20mg-ml

well HGH didn't help me sleep much but nutrobal mk677 did, appetite is an issue, so go try some natural hgh booster like nutrozol 677 2 caps before bed will make you sleep and boost hgh via herbal route
https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/store/Nutrozol_677
Thanks, I will check them out.

I am taking injectable L carnitine which seems to be working well. I may add in cardarine to increase my endurance in the gym while I work around recovering my Elbow tendon and retosing my natural test level production.
 
Thanks, I will check them out.

I am taking injectable L carnitine which seems to be working well. I may add in cardarine to increase my endurance in the gym while I work around recovering my Elbow tendon and retosing my natural test level production.
@gunelanie4987 really to be honest I think you wasting your time with L Carnitine, I've used it and had clients use it, painful injections with sub-par benefits. You can just take a lot of oral carnitine and add cardarine gw and stenabolic sr
with some nutrozol 677 before bed. There are easier ways to do this bro.
 
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@gunelanie4987 really to be honest I think you wasting your time with L Carnitine, I've used it and had clients use it, painful injections with sub-par benefits. You can just take a lot of oral carnitine and add cardarine gw and stenabolic sr
with some nutrozol 677 before bed. There are easier ways to do this bro.
I follow Chaseirons if you have heard of him. ( https://www.youtube.com/c/ChaseIrons) Reference to Chase's youtube channel.
He is a decent bodybuilder with a good YouTube channel. I just wanted to try a new supplement I had purchased pre-workout supplements from a company called Premium Supps and thought I would try their L carnitine because they sell it quite cheap. I don't mind daily injections I like knowing that I am taking something that will contribute to my performance in the gym. I feel motivated to train knowing there is something in my system that is improving my workout performance in some way.

Do you know of a good sarms company that offers free shipping to Australia if I order a certain amount of product?
 
I follow Chaseirons if you have heard of him. ( https://www.youtube.com/c/ChaseIrons) Reference to Chase's youtube channel.
He is a decent bodybuilder with a good YouTube channel. I just wanted to try a new supplement I had purchased pre-workout supplements from a company called Premium Supps and thought I would try their L carnitine because they sell it quite cheap. I don't mind daily injections I like knowing that I am taking something that will contribute to my performance in the gym. I feel motivated to train knowing there is something in my system that is improving my workout performance in some way.

Do you know of a good sarms company that offers free shipping to Australia if I order a certain amount of product?
@gunelanie4987 I find these gurus have a lot of views which are fine but not many give advice for all because they dont see details, just generalizing.

In your case if you want something strong preworkout thats a good motivation and I support it.

On the sarms part, no legit companies that are approved ship free to AU that I know of but I suggest you go use umbrella labs, they are approved and ton of blood work and lab tests, unless you want to get fake sarms that cause you hormonal issues.
 
I follow Chaseirons if you have heard of him. ( https://www.youtube.com/c/ChaseIrons) Reference to Chase's youtube channel.
He is a decent bodybuilder with a good YouTube channel. I just wanted to try a new supplement I had purchased pre-workout supplements from a company called Premium Supps and thought I would try their L carnitine because they sell it quite cheap. I don't mind daily injections I like knowing that I am taking something that will contribute to my performance in the gym. I feel motivated to train knowing there is something in my system that is improving my workout performance in some way.

Do you know of a good sarms company that offers free shipping to Australia if I order a certain amount of product?
I recommend https://ugloz.is/ he is based in Australia so no issues with customs and all his products are awesome. I just ordered some Cardarine, MK677, Stenabolic and Clenbuterol for my next cycle. I’m also on his Stenabolic already from a previous order, is amazing stuff 👍.

Have you tried the L-Carnatine from Premium supps yet? I heard it stings a bit when you inject it since isn’t PH balanced? Have been thinking about trying that myself, I also just heard about injectable ATP which pairs well with it apparently.
 
I recommend https://ugloz.is/ he is based in Australia so no issues with customs and all his products are awesome. I just ordered some Cardarine, MK677, Stenabolic and Clenbuterol for my next cycle. I’m also on his Stenabolic already from a previous order, is amazing stuff 👍.

Have you tried the L-Carnatine from Premium supps yet? I heard it stings a bit when you inject it since isn’t PH balanced? Have been thinking about trying that myself, I also just heard about injectable ATP which pairs well with it apparently.
Yeah I shot 1 ml of carnitine yesterday and today prior to fasted cardio. I felt great yesterday after using it pre workout.

Carnitine is something that you have to persevere with in order to reap the full benefits. It’s definitely a pain needing to inject daily but I’ll do anything for a slight increase in performance.
1 shot .5 mls into my side and rear delt. I had a dead shoulder after it was difficult to train back but after a few warm up sets the pip wasn’t too bad. .

Thanks I will check out ugloz. I would recommend trying the carnitine sold by premium supps to see how you like it. It’s cheap and you get free shipping if you spend over $200.
 
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Hey guys just a quick update.
I had a rest day from the gym today. I did cardio for 30 mins today I used the cross trainer. I have been using the cross trainer as a warm up prior to my weight training sessions and I usually do 10 mins post workout.

Depending on how fatigued I am post workout I sometimes opt for an incline walk at a 15 degree incline moderate pace. I do cardio year round because I love doing it and it helps keep me lean.

I trained abs after cardio today I competed 4 sets of machine crunches and decline sit ups love the stretch I get in the and using a decline bench.

I had planned to rest tomorrow but I am keen to train push again my last push workout was 2 days ago and I feel adequately recovered.
I’ll see how I feel tomorrow I may just do fasted cardio Tomorrow depending on how I feel.

I will post some pictures of my meals later today.

Hope you are all well and getting after it.
 
Hey guys just a quick update.
I had a rest day from the gym today. I did cardio for 30 mins today I used the cross trainer. I have been using the cross trainer as a warm up prior to my weight training sessions and I usually do 10 mins post workout.

Depending on how fatigued I am post workout I sometimes opt for an incline walk at a 15 degree incline moderate pace. I do cardio year round because I love doing it and it helps keep me lean.

I trained abs after cardio today I competed 4 sets of machine crunches and decline sit ups love the stretch I get in the and using a decline bench.

I had planned to rest tomorrow but I am keen to train push again my last push workout was 2 days ago and I feel adequately recovered.
I’ll see how I feel tomorrow I may just do fasted cardio Tomorrow depending on how I feel.

I will post some pictures of my meals later today.

Hope you are all well and getting after it.
@gunelanie4987 good updates I like the ab work but a nice selfie would be cool
lets get more updates on how you doing as you go, we watching
 
i am loving this random surge of aussies on here, maybe we all have a hive mind and are drawn to evo 😂 nice work today
It's the freedom to talk shit on that section lol
 
@gunelanie4987 good updates I like the ab work but a nice selfie would be cool
lets get more updates on how you doing as you go, we watching
Yeah haha I was in a bit of a rush after my workout today. Had to take my mother xmas shopping and that was a huge job. My mother is addicted to shopping.

Will take a selfie and post some videos tomorrow. I am planning to train chest tomorrow as my chest has had 2 full days of rest. I generally always do cardio along with my weight training sessions rather than dedicating separate sessions for cardio and weights. I love both forms of exercise. I just love to train.

I am enjoying the community aspect of the forum. It's great feeling supported with my goals by people who share a similar passion to me.
 
It's like an infestation 😁 jk, aussie people are great people and I enjoy having good company and people in our community 💪
haha who doesn't love an aussie infestation 😂 we crack the best jokes
 
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