I am doing 1 year bulking that will end in March next year, the first half of my bulking cycle was natural and started using tren and other compounds like 2 weeks ago. I have accumulated fat as well because of the first half natural bulking phase cuz of calorie surplus. I am getting two statements from people:
1. "tren will limit additional fat gain but won't reduce the existing body fat % while building muscles while you are in calorie surplus",
2. "tren will limit additional fat gain while lowering existing body fat % while building muscle in calorie surplus"
Which one is true? If the second statement is true, does it mean people who take tren don't follow the traditional bulking and cutting cycle system?
If we say that the rate at which muscle development on tren can happen under surplus is 10, by how many points the rate of muscle development would be reduced with maintenance and deficit?
@parazpro I was checking your other posts, you're from the land up North so Winter is your bulk for sure bro
On the questions, those are really hard to answer in a subjective matter as related to you, but easy if you want generic answers.
Generic answer
1) trenbolone does nothing of the sort
2) tren does nothing of the sort
Both answers are true, trenbolone is basically a "strong" testosterone so as with any steroid diet, training, cardio, sleep, supps, cortisol stress and more plays into actual results.
@Pigsy @AE1079 can add to this
Subjective answer related to you specifically
@parazpro is this, its not normal to go from natty to trenbolone and "other" compounds. But I've had clients do it like that.
If you want actual help from us, real info, we need to learn more about you, a lot more.
how can we learn? you need to share with us, how? well easy, start a NEW thread with your LOG journal, share diet training cardio sleep and supps and we will guide you during this bulk as a big EVO family
it will take you 15-20 min its not hard at all
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