tren cycle

[AtlasJock]

So im tryna make plans for my next cycle, goal is to bulk as much as i can

I was thinking Tren E and Test E

was wondering if anyone had advice or sugestions, first time using tren e (though i have used oral tren)

I was thinking of adding some anadrol, though not sure if i should use it to jump start the cycle or end with a bang, cause I tend to respond to steroids within a day of injection, atleast for the test

 

[Vallieflag]

If its your first time using tren, you need to use Tren A, so it clears your system quicker if you react negatively to it. Make sure your diet is super in check aswell.
Make sure you have caber and an AI on hand and ready to go. (Aswell as your PCT of course).

 

[stevesmi]

i can tell you that if you stack tren with anadrol and that shit is legit gear (yeah a lot of gear out there is shit these days) then your sides are going to be brutal

the best orals to stack with tren are mild anabolic ones like tbol or var.

 

[muskate]

Here is a great video of you to watch where I talk about in depth what the steroid trenbolone is, sample tren cycle, what support supplements are needed with a tren cycle etc. -> http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/video-trenbolone-explained-47719.html

I don't think kick starting a tren cycle with anadrol is a smart idea. Tren is pretty harsh in the way of side effects to begin with. Adding in anadrol is going to be really hard on your body. Tren is an extremely powerful steroid. You will grow like a weed on your first cycle with tren.

Trenbolone is a very interesting steroid. It was never actually developed for human usage. It was developed as a feed lot drug for cattle. It was originally sold under the brand name Finajet or Finaplex.

Tren has an anabolic:androgenic ratio of 500/500. In comparison, testosterone has a ratio of 100/100. Tren is 5x stronger then testosterone mg per mg. Tren is a very powerful and effective steroid, but it can also be very harsh in the way of side effects. I personally don't think it's smart to do a steroid cycle with tren until you have done 3-4 steroid cycles before hand.

I recommend running the testosterone higher then tren to keep side effects to a minimum. I really like a dosage of 500mg/week for test and 300mg/week for tren. A little bit of tren goes a long way. I really see no need to ever use more then 300-400mg of tren per week.

A test/tren cycle needs 3 main support supplements:
1. An AI like aromasin to keep estrogen in the low-normal range
2. An anti-prolactin drug like cabergoline to keep prolactin in the low-normal range
3. Cardarine to increase fat loss, endurance and prevent tren related side effects like tren cough

Cardarine isn't talked about much as a support for a cycle with tren but it is fantastic for preventing tren related side effects. Tren is notorious for negatively impacting endurance and causing insulin resistance. Cardarine helps prevent that immensely.

This is how I would run a test/tren cycle:
Weeks 1 - 10
Testosterone e 500mg/week OR Test prop 100-150mg EOD
Tren e 300mg/week OR tren ace 50-75mg EOD
aromasin 10mg EOD
cabergoline 0.25mg EOD
cardarine 20mg/day

After the cycle run the perfect PCT protocol -> http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

The last thing I'll say is that human grade tren has not been in production since 1997. You can only get under ground lab produced tren or veterinary grade tren.

Any source claiming to have pharmacy grade tren is flat out lying to you. Even if you somehow convinced your doctor to write you a prescription for tren, you couldn't get it because no pharmacy company is producing it.

Check the source reviews section on the board if you are looking for a good source for tren. You can't go wrong ordering from the approves sources like Roid Mass or Nordic Fusion.

 

[mdpasha]

Bro u can bulk or cut on any steroid, its the diet that determines it ofcourse certain steroids are good for bulking but like an aid only.
Speaking of this, if u want to try tren and its ur first time then go for short ester like acetate which clears ur system fast so if u get any intolerable side effects which tren is very famous for u can cut short the cycle and recover faster.
Tbol, test p & tren ace could be a good lean bulk cycle if ur diet & training is spot on - i am talking about quality lean mass here.
But if u r just looking for sheer mass i.e. just quantity then test,deca & dbol would be ur best choice.
Whatever cycle u choose do not forget to include an AI like aromosin and caber to keep ur estrogen & prolactin under control.
Personally I do not like anadrol because of the way it makes me feel on cycle unlike while on dbol i feel euphoric.
Also note nandrolones like deca,npp & tren r harsh on the body & takes a little for the body htpa to recover, so make sure u follow up with a good strong PCT.



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[AtlasJock]

Thanks guys, deff gave me alot of info to digest. and had no idea about cardarine. Ive just wrapped up my third cycle so will be a while before I get to start. But now I know all of what I need

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks guys, deff gave me alot of info to digest. and had no idea about cardarine. Ive just wrapped up my third cycle so will be a while before I get to start. But now I know all of what I need

Well, Cardarine has a time proven ability to greatly reduce many of trenbolone's side effects, so it is a great addition for a cycle with this steroid.

All in all, @muskate got you really well covered there, so I have nothing to add there. However, I would personally suggest you to focus on lean bulking, so Anadrol would not be the best choice. For example, Turinabol is a great lean bulker, since it does not aromatize or affect progestin levels, so you get lean gains without water retention. It is always best to stick to lean bulking - less stress for your body.

 

[Jay Scott]

So im tryna make plans for my next cycle, goal is to bulk as much as i can

I was thinking Tren E and Test E

was wondering if anyone had advice or sugestions, first time using tren e (though i have used oral tren)

I was thinking of adding some anadrol, though not sure if i should use it to jump start the cycle or end with a bang, cause I tend to respond to steroids within a day of injection, atleast for the test

You can add dbol ir anadrol to kickstart a cycle if you want. As for the cycle itself, test e + tren e is a good combo, and you can run either similar amounts such as 500-600 test and 400-500 tren, or do low test high tren, such as 200-300 test and 500-700 tren.

Depends on the person how the sides are handled.

Also do not forget aromasin to fight off estrogen from test and cabergoline to keep prolactin from tren low.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Anadrol would be pretty insane as a kick start to that cycle but I might go a bit milder. I like Steve's idea of tbol. Either way you will have a great run. Just make sure you are eating enough. Some people have a tough time on tren getting enough calories in.

 

[AtlasJock]

Thanks, eating enough might be my Achilles' heel. A man can only eat so much chicken. Might have to invest in a crap ton of sauces etc. one meal I eat twice while at work is 1/4 chicken with 1/2 a sweet potato, and some franks red hot sauce so im not choking on dry ass rotisserie chicken (there only 5 bucks for a fully cooked bird, makes meal prep easy)

 

[Eddie Haskell]

This is how I would run a test/tren cycle:
Weeks 1 - 10
Testosterone e 500mg/week OR Test prop 100-150mg EOD
Tren e 300mg/week OR tren ace 50-75mg EOD
aromasin 10mg EOD
cabergoline 0.25mg EOD
cardarine 20mg/day

What do you think of adding EQ to this cycle for purposes having to do with enhancing one's appetite, muskate? If you think it would be beneficial to do so, how much EQ would you recommend? Thank you.

 

[muskate]

What do you think of adding EQ to this cycle for purposes having to do with enhancing one's appetite, muskate? If you think it would be beneficial to do so, how much EQ would you recommend? Thank you.

I never noticed much an appetite increase from EQ. I would use nutrobal instead -> http://www.evolutionary.org/nutrobal-mk-677-ibutamoren

Nutrobal is an HGH analogue. It signals the pituitary gland to increase HGH levels in the body. Not only will it increase appetite, it will also help promote deep and restful sleep. Tren is notorious for causing insomnia so nutrobal will kill 2 birds with one stone.

 

[AtlasJock]

by the looks of it Nutrobal is injectable, is it legal or do I have to get it from a source? That's probably a dumb question, everything that can add muscle is illegal nowadays (atleast here in the states)

 

[KronarSZ]

by the looks of it Nutrobal is injectable, is it legal or do I have to get it from a source? That's probably a dumb question, everything that can add muscle is illegal nowadays (atleast here in the states)

Nutribol is not injectable. It is legal for research purposes only. I believe sarms1 is a USA based distributor so you would not have to worry about customs.

 

[AtlasJock]

Nutribol is not injectable. It is legal for research purposes only. I believe sarms1 is a USA based distributor so you would not have to worry about customs.

sweet, money is tight at the moment but i'll deff have to give it a try at some point