Tren the Cardio Killer

[Thesauceboss]

Hey guys, this morning i just got my first sides ever from tren. This isnt my first time running a tren cycle, i have ran 2 cycles of tren acetate prior to this at 400mg every week and didnt notice anything but mad strength gains and muscle separation / hardening. This cycle im on now, im 3 weeks deep into 600mg tren enanthate and 400mg test a week. Lastnight i noticed i couldnt fall asleep for the life of me until midnight came around then i finally passed out. Just got up at 4:30am to head to golds for 5. Now, with the prior cycles i had with tren i had insane endurance, and cardio wasnt impacted negatively at all. Yesterday my cardio was literally at 100% and could have killed it for hours on end in the gym. Today though, I was literally only able to bang out 5 sets of machine back rows, with moderate weight until I got so dizzy and winded i had to step outside into the cold ass 2 degrees celsisus weather we have up here in Canada. After that, i tried doing some bent over dumbell rows, managing to get 1 set before throwing in the towel. I left the gym hacking my lungs out and feeling like i was literally gonna puke. This has never happened with tren acetate in my prior experience with the compound. Could this be caused by the tren dosage ?, different ester maybe ?. Let me know what you guys think, but if this keeps up im not sure if ill make it through with the tren this cycle.

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[jp4355]

And this is the reason that I only use Tren Acetate now.

I personally don't have any Cardio Issues on the Acetate.

The Tren Enanthate kills me, I have trouble catching my Breath in-between sets.

As for the Trensomnia, I have a Solution.

Raw Honey and Warm Filtered or Spring Water, either right before bed, or if you wake.

It has to do with Falling Liver Glycogen Levels, that's why you Wake-up....................................... JP
P.S.
I wrote an Article on Exactly why the Raw Honey works.

http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...-bed-!-28020.html?highlight=can't+sleep+night

 

[stevesmi]

I've said it a million times:

1. you need to eat more carbs to tap into energy. using tren is like injecting insulin, it sucks up those carbs, great nutrition partitioner. your blood sugar needs to be stabilized.. that's why what JP said above works .. i will go a step further and tell you to buy frozen pancakes or waffles. the good quality kind. if you experience low blood sugar simply pop one into the microwave and eat it with honey, you will feel better

2. you need to use GW/cardarine to help offset the breathing issues. tren will make it more difficult to breathe due to the increase of PGF2A which is an inflammatory prostaglandin, that's why you see guys on tren who need more oxygen breathing heavier

and also go into cycle in top shape already, don't go into cycle not even being able to run a mile in 8 minutes. I'm a big guy but I easily run a mile in under 8 minutes cause i keep myself conditioned.

 

[muskate]

Tren is a very powerful steroid but also very harsh in the way of side effects. A little bit goes a long way. I really see no need to ever use more then 300-400mg of tren per week. I would drop your tren e dosage down to 400mg/week. Tren is tren, the ester only effects how frequently you need to inject. The reason you are experiencing side effects this time around is because you upped your dosage.

Remember to include the proper support supplements in your cycle. A test/tren cycle needs 3 main support supplements:
1. An AI (aromasin) to keep estrogen in the low-normal range
2. An anti-prolactin drug (cabergoline) to keep prolactin in the low-normal range
3. Cardarine to increase fat loss, endurance and prevent tren related side effects like tren cough

Especially #3 goes a long way in preventing tren related side effects. Add cardarine into your cycle at 20mg/day and it'll help big time with increasing endurance.

Sounds like you just had a bad day. It happens to all of us. Try to head to bed earlier tonight. Consider using a good natural sleep aid supplement like n2sleep from n2bm.com when using tren. Tren is known to cause insomnia in a lot of people.

 

[sisir012]

I agree with trev in this reasone i dont want to take tren because it is havy and have some very bad side from tren becarefull with it use cardarine and caber with it and with some omega 3 supplement good luck

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[Jay Scott]

I've said it a million times:

1. you need to eat more carbs to tap into energy. using tren is like injecting insulin, it sucks up those carbs, great nutrition partitioner. your blood sugar needs to be stabilized.. that's why what JP said above works .. i will go a step further and tell you to buy frozen pancakes or waffles. the good quality kind. if you experience low blood sugar simply pop one into the microwave and eat it with honey, you will feel better

2. you need to use GW/cardarine to help offset the breathing issues. tren will make it more difficult to breathe due to the increase of PGF2A which is an inflammatory prostaglandin, that's why you see guys on tren who need more oxygen breathing heavier

and also go into cycle in top shape already, don't go into cycle not even being able to run a mile in 8 minutes. I'm a big guy but I easily run a mile in under 8 minutes cause i keep myself conditioned.

Cardarine and ventolin are life saviours on tren cycles, boy oh boy trust me

 

[Splat]

I've said it a million times:

1. you need to eat more carbs to tap into energy. using tren is like injecting insulin, it sucks up those carbs, great nutrition partitioner. your blood sugar needs to be stabilized.. that's why what JP said above works .. i will go a step further and tell you to buy frozen pancakes or waffles. the good quality kind. if you experience low blood sugar simply pop one into the microwave and eat it with honey, you will feel better

Interesting - Trensomnia is caused by low blood sugar (or at least that's part of it)? I hadn't considered that, TBH. I've never used Tren, but I've read (a very little) a bit about it.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

The only other thing I can add to the above is that maybe 600mg is a bit much for you. You ran 400mg for the other tren cycles so maybe drop down to 400-500mg and see how it goes. Tren is a very powerful compound and at 400mg per week you can make ridiculous gains. Just another though....are you using the same gear as your other tren cycles? With these UG labs one may be dosed closer to what the vial says than the other.

 

[stevesmi]

Interesting - Trensomnia is caused by low blood sugar (or at least that's part of it)? I hadn't considered that, TBH. I've never used Tren, but I've read (a very little) a bit about it.

low blood sugar has many side effects that people on tren also complain about

you hear people parrot not to eat carbs before bed because of night sweating. this is backwards advice. although it is true those carbs will get burned up and cause sweating, it is overblown. you actually will sweat more if you avoid carbs and are glycogen depleted. the big reason you get night sweats on tren is cause of this but also cause an increase in metabolism, as your body attempts to cool itself off. so logically it makes more sense to drink more water and take a refreshing cool shower before bed and keep your room cooler

 

[LevButlerov]

This is quite a normal side effect of trenbolone, so there is nothing to be surprised with. Luckily, this can be solved with such compounds as Cardarine GW, which has a time proven ability to greatly counter most of trenbolone's side effects without adding any of its own. What's more, it will be especially effective for cardio related side effects of trenbolone.