Approved Log TRT and HGH for longevity Log

[OldButStrong]

Hey Lads

52 years old
5’11
108kg

Trt 120mg per week, split into 3, 40mg shots Mon, Wed, Fri.
Hgh 2iu 3 hours before bed from @Core Pharma.

I have dropped my T from 180 to 150 to now current 120 as when I introduced the hgh after a few weeks started getting similar to high E sides. Facial flushing and running hot all the time.
I believe this is caused by the hyperplasia I’m getting from the hgh causing the anabolic to be attached to the new created cells. Thus needing less testosterone.

Lifts
120 bench for 5
220 deadlift for 3
180 back squat for 7
RDL 140 for 5
Bent over row 120 for 5

Accessories chins, rear delts, bi’s and tri’s.
Above done in a 10 day cycle.
1 day on, one day off.

Calories around 2500
Protein 200
Carb 200
Rest in fats

Dropping the heavy lifting now as always sore, lacking mobility and getting constant niggles.
Will do the above exercises at 60 to 70 percent of the above weights and work up to one set to failure.

My aim now at 52 is to feel good, be strong, look good and function well in my 60’s.

Regards Lads.

 

[Core Pharma]

Killing it brother

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey Lads

52 years old
5’11
108kg

Trt 120mg per week, split into 3, 40mg shots Mon, Wed, Fri.
Hgh 2iu 3 hours before bed from @Core Pharma.

I have dropped my T from 180 to 150 to now current 120 as when I introduced the hgh after a few weeks started getting similar to high E sides. Facial flushing and running hot all the time.
I believe this is caused by the hyperplasia I’m getting from the hgh causing the anabolic to be attached to the new created cells. Thus needing less testosterone.

Lifts
120 bench for 5
220 deadlift for 3
180 back squat for 7
RDL 140 for 5
Bent over row 120 for 5

Accessories chins, rear delts, bi’s and tri’s.
Above done in a 10 day cycle.
1 day on, one day off.

Calories around 2500
Protein 200
Carb 200
Rest in fats

Dropping the heavy lifting now as always sore, lacking mobility and getting constant niggles.
Will do the above exercises at 60 to 70 percent of the above weights and work up to one set to failure.

My aim now at 52 is to feel good, be strong, look good and function well in my 60’s.

Regards Lads.

@Nightrod welcome welcome the big EVO family is happy to see an older guys sharing and changing his life and health
thanks for the start of the share

Cycle
The high estrogen sides from 180mgs testosterone? possible but not very likely
do you have any bloods for the E2/prolactin?

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

thank you and share more

 

[OldButStrong]

@Nightrod welcome welcome the big EVO family is happy to see an older guys sharing and changing his life and health
thanks for the start of the share

Cycle
The high estrogen sides from 180mgs testosterone? possible but not very likely
do you have any bloods for the E2/prolactin?

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

thank you and share more

@LevButlerov
No bloods atm.
Donated a couple of days ago.
Haemoglobin 148
BP 142 over 82. Small cuff used. Need a bigger cuff to be more accurate.

Your thoughts on needing less testosterone because of the introduced HGH?

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov
No bloods atm.
Donated a couple of days ago.
Haemoglobin 148
BP 142 over 82. Small cuff used. Need a bigger cuff to be more accurate.

Your thoughts on needing less testosterone because of the introduced HGH?

@OldButStrong, in your situation since you are talking about longevity, part of longevity and health is understanding your blood work, I think you would agree, knowing your vitals is crucial to make healthy adjustments.

Blood work
Can you please get bloods in about 7-10 days? wait for RBC to recover post-blood donation

BP
meanwhile, your Haemoglobin 148 is in range but your BP is way too high, can you remeasure?

Testosterone
I would stick to 150mgs testosterone/week and 2 IUs of hgh until we get bloods and until you can give us more info about your please

Please start updating on the list I posted above when you get the chance thanks

@Nightrod welcome welcome the big EVO family is happy to see an older guys sharing and changing his life and health
thanks for the start of the share

Cycle
The high estrogen sides from 180mgs testosterone? possible but not very likely
do you have any bloods for the E2/prolactin?

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

thank you and share more

 

[OldButStrong]

Diet
Red meat
Chicken thigh
Lots of vegetables, especially greens.
Fruit occasionally

My wife makes a version of Stan’s monster mash beef mince, frozen veg, white rice and sweet potatoes

Supps
Vit D 5000iu
Mag 1500
Zinc 50mg
Cialis EOD 5mg
Phylum husk morning and night.

Pics to come.

Regards

 

[OldButStrong]

Starting next week T 150mg per. Split into 3 shots 50mg Mon, Wed, Fri.

Up from 120mg per week.

HGH 2iu, 3 hours before bed, 7 days a week.

 

[LevButlerov]

Diet
Red meat
Chicken thigh
Lots of vegetables, especially greens.
Fruit occasionally

My wife makes a version of Stan’s monster mash beef mince, frozen veg, white rice and sweet potatoes

Supps
Vit D 5000iu
Mag 1500
Zinc 50mg
Cialis EOD 5mg
Phylum husk morning and night.

Pics to come.

Regards

Starting next week T 150mg per. Split into 3 shots 50mg Mon, Wed, Fri.

Up from 120mg per week.

HGH 2iu, 3 hours before bed, 7 days a week.

@OldButStrong would be good to get actual diet, you saying you doing red meat daily? how about fasting days?

and you have bloods coming?

 

[OldButStrong]

@OldButStrong would be good to get actual diet, you saying you doing red meat daily? how about fasting days?

and you have bloods coming?

@LevButlerov. I don’t actually have one.
I don’t diet because I know what’s good for me, I alternate red meat and chicken thigh generally weekly. And some weeks it’s a mix.
I don’t mind eating the same thing everyday. Like the monster mash for example.
I understand my calorie and macronutrient profile to a good point.
Mainly aiming for high protein and vegetables for carb/fibre and micronutrients.

Bloods I will have done but give life’s complexities. Work, kids, wife, training etc and finding a good doc here.
I don’t see a doc for things/ typical
Bloke. However I will before Xmas.

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov. I don’t actually have one.
I don’t diet because I know what’s good for me, I alternate red meat and chicken thigh generally weekly. And some weeks it’s a mix.
I don’t mind eating the same thing everyday. Like the monster mash for example.
I understand my calorie and macronutrient profile to a good point.
Mainly aiming for high protein and vegetables for carb/fibre and micronutrients.

Bloods I will have done but give life’s complexities. Work, kids, wife, training etc and finding a good doc here.
I don’t see a doc for things/ typical
Bloke. However I will before Xmas.

@OldButStrong you can get private bloods?

on the diet, how about we talk a bit fasting, you talk about longevity right? so to start if you're for example doing high saturated fat and glucose/carbs, this is bad for hgh and longevity.
Can you do fasting? lets say 16/8 to start IF

 

[stevesmi]

That's an awesome start to this log and I like your goals

 

[OldButStrong]

@OldButStrong you can get private bloods?

on the diet, how about we talk a bit fasting, you talk about longevity right? so to start if you're for example doing high saturated fat and glucose/carbs, this is bad for hgh and longevity.
Can you do fasting? lets say 16/8 to start IF

Thanks @stevesmi

@LevButlerov
I have done fasting 16/8 and 24 once a week fasting. Carb backloading. Keto etc.
all for 6 months at a time to really give it a go. Lost shit loads of weight including muscle. And felt great.

However this is not living for me bro.

Example I have 3 children and 15 nieces and nephews. Tonight one has a bday and I will eat whatever, cake, killer pythons etc. With absolutely no shame .

At this stage of life I want as stated above. But also don’t wanna be that guy at the party with his chicken, rice and broccoli bowl.

This is why I now I’m close to 90/10% eating clean.

Are we worrying about the saturated fats mixed with the low glycemic carbs?

 

[OldButStrong]

That's an awesome start to this log and I like your goals

@stevesmi

Appreciate any feedback you may offer bro.

 

[OldButStrong]

Up from 105 to 108kg with 2iu of hgh per day.

 

[Mobster]

Interesting idea re the T vs GH balance

 

[OldButStrong]

Interesting idea re the T vs GH balance

@Mobster
Hey mate.

As in possibly needing less T due the hyperplasia from the gh?

 

[Quadsweep]

I can respect your honesty when it comes to the nutrition
but it seems like you're a little too hung up on junk food being tasty and it's not

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro for me a steak good tasting
especially grassfed steak

 

[JasonPriest]

you are definitely built very strong with your physique
following a 90/10 diet is perfectly fine I think you're being hard on yourself

 

[Wootoom]

considering most people in North America eat 0% healthy
I would say if you stick to 90% that's pretty good