TRT recommendations at 55

[medengines]

I am currently having the age issues creaping up on me.
Had some Thyroid numbers TSH be at 22.09 says I'm Hypothyroid.
Dr. put me on Levothyroxin since then my numbers normal in range, so good news!
I'm also controlling High blood sugar with diet only my A1C is now 6.0 PreDiabetic range without Metformin or any meds.
Work out total body excersice "light weight every day".
I'm a prior service veteran with injuries so i've got to watch out for my back and shoulder injuries.
6 foot 2 weigh in at 215-218ish off the chain! haha
LABS:
Testosterone, free, total avail 464
test free 62.0
test bioavailable 127.4
shbg 33
uric acid 8.5
T4 free .9
Note: the above numbers were using good diet and MHP T bomb 3xtreme if that counts for anything.

I've been feeling depressed a bit and low libido and of course would like to get back in time about 20 years! LOL
My history I've ran 2 cycles of Test E with Winstrol in the past, but years ago my last run was in 2019.
Told my Doc about it.
He says i could put you on Test Cyp. 1ml every 2 weeks..that sounds way too micro to me.
What do you Pros recommend I do? Go for it
Would this shut me down for life if i go for this based on my my labs?
thanks

 

[s.gentz]

I am currently having the age issues creaping up on me.
Had some Thyroid numbers TSH be at 22.09 says I'm Hypothyroid.
Dr. put me on Levothyroxin since then my numbers normal in range, so good news!
I'm also controlling High blood sugar with diet only my A1C is now 6.0 PreDiabetic range without Metformin or any meds.
Work out total body excersice "light weight every day".
I'm a prior service veteran with injuries so i've got to watch out for my back and shoulder injuries.
6 foot 2 weigh in at 215-218ish off the chain! haha
LABS:
Testosterone, free, total avail 464
test free 62.0
test bioavailable 127.4
shbg 33
uric acid 8.5
T4 free .9
Note: the above numbers were using good diet and MHP T bomb 3xtreme if that counts for anything.

I've been feeling depressed a bit and low libido and of course would like to get back in time about 20 years! LOL
My history I've ran 2 cycles of Test E with Winstrol in the past, but years ago my last run was in 2019.
Told my Doc about it.
He says i could put you on Test Cyp. 1ml every 2 weeks..that sounds way too micro to me.
What do you Pros recommend I do? Go for it
Would this shut me down for life if i go for this based on my my labs?
thanks

Test cyp is typically 200mg/ml so you would be at 100mg/wk except I don't like the 2 week interval on the shots. Too many peaks and valleys in your blood concentration. You will never be at a fairly steady state and that's where issues can occur.
I would ask for weekly shots. 100mg/wk is not a bad place to start. Your better starting lower and increasing then higher and having to back it off. It's a mental thing.
You will be shut down once you start injecting endogenous Test but assuming at your age you care more about being healthy than being fertile?

 

[stevesmi]

pretty standard situation for middle aged men especially in america

hopefully down the line you can come off thyroid meds.

your test levels are okay for your age, i would cycle steroids and see how you feel on them. and if you feel a lot better while also keeping your lipids healthy you can do trt down the line as its always an option

also for your spine issues i strongly suggest HOT YOGA. it is the ONLY thing that helped me

 

[LevButlerov]

I am currently having the age issues creaping up on me.
Had some Thyroid numbers TSH be at 22.09 says I'm Hypothyroid.
Dr. put me on Levothyroxin since then my numbers normal in range, so good news!
I'm also controlling High blood sugar with diet only my A1C is now 6.0 PreDiabetic range without Metformin or any meds.
Work out total body excersice "light weight every day".
I'm a prior service veteran with injuries so i've got to watch out for my back and shoulder injuries.
6 foot 2 weigh in at 215-218ish off the chain! haha
LABS:
Testosterone, free, total avail 464
test free 62.0
test bioavailable 127.4
shbg 33
uric acid 8.5
T4 free .9
Note: the above numbers were using good diet and MHP T bomb 3xtreme if that counts for anything.

I've been feeling depressed a bit and low libido and of course would like to get back in time about 20 years! LOL
My history I've ran 2 cycles of Test E with Winstrol in the past, but years ago my last run was in 2019.
Told my Doc about it.
He says i could put you on Test Cyp. 1ml every 2 weeks..that sounds way too micro to me.
What do you Pros recommend I do? Go for it
Would this shut me down for life if i go for this based on my my labs?
thanks

@medengines welcome to the EVO family

You can be sure you're not alone, low testosterone is normal these days.
From looking at your situation, much more than just testosterone is at play here.

My view is we can't truly make recommendations unless we learn more about you, like I'd like to tell you to do self-TRT and blast if you want to really get a new level but I can't since not sure about you at all. Can you please share with our family? how? easy, 15-20 min of your time, prep your current training log journaly, add training diet stats history sleep supps and more and we can guide you into self TRT or full TRT whatever the game will be.

How TO?

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Pre-TRT Training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle


here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com

 

[medengines]

Test cyp is typically 200mg/ml so you would be at 100mg/wk except I don't like the 2 week interval on the shots. Too many peaks and valleys in your blood concentration. You will never be at a fairly steady state and that's where issues can occur.
I would ask for weekly shots. 100mg/wk is not a bad place to start. Your better starting lower and increasing then higher and having to back it off. It's a mental thing.
You will be shut down once you start injecting endogenous Test but assuming at your age you care more about being healthy than being fertile?

Thanks for the welcoming replies, much appreciated!
So draw up half the single vial and do it twice a week instead, that'll keep my blood levels more steady.
Yes to the fertility...im done producing children!
just want to get my health in check and be more productive thru my retirement age!

 

[medengines]

pretty standard situation for middle aged men especially in america

hopefully down the line you can come off thyroid meds.

your test levels are okay for your age, i would cycle steroids and see how you feel on them. and if you feel a lot better while also keeping your lipids healthy you can do trt down the line as its always an option

also for your spine issues i strongly suggest HOT YOGA. it is the ONLY thing that helped me

Yes I'm hopeful that the thyroid comes back to a normal level and gets better...praying!
Also the A1C .
I've been doing intermittent fasting trying to get my insulin down to get back hopefully or "get out" of insulant resistance.
Cut out carbs a lot doing higher protein diet ...I'm trying.
The Hot Yoga recommendation I'll look into, been doing Asian squats, bought a inversion table recently so it's getting better.

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

Is he giving you the shot or are you doing it yourself? then you can break it down into smaller regular shots.

 

[medengines]

@medengines welcome to the EVO family

You can be sure you're not alone, low testosterone is normal these days.
From looking at your situation, much more than just testosterone is at play here.

My view is we can't truly make recommendations unless we learn more about you, like I'd like to tell you to do self-TRT and blast if you want to really get a new level but I can't since not sure about you at all. Can you please share with our family? how? easy, 15-20 min of your time, prep your current training log journaly, add training diet stats history sleep supps and more and we can guide you into self TRT or full TRT whatever the game will be.

How TO?

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Pre-TRT Training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle


here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com

I'll be trying to do a paper log soon and learn here, post something soon !

 

[medengines]

Is he giving you the shot or are you doing it yourself? then you can break it down into smaller regular shots.

I told him i can do it! So i just picked up the 2 vials from the pharmacy last night.

 

[LouOden]

Im newer and i use test cyp at 5. 2 x per week , so 100

My numbers went from free test 202 to 672 free test.
E2 140
Ive pondered raising up my Test abit but so far have not.

 

[PrinceDaddy]

I'm 56 and have been on doctor prescribed TRT since 2017 or so. My doctor had me do once every two weeks initially. My test showed mid 250s on the bloodwork. I was clearly hypogonadal. After re-testing I tested in the mid 150s. My doctor bumped me up to once a week. That is when
I felt the effects. Just more energy and mental well being. Less fog. I do 200/mg weekly. Your doctor will dose you up or down based on feel and blood work. I also happen to be estrogen converter so I also need an AI, especially if you are carrying some fat. Some folks get high RBC/Hematocrit so you may have to donate blood. Do your research. TRT is far more common than you think amongst most guys over 40.

You can go without the TRT, but you just will not feel as good as you do when on TRT. You will be on the rest of your life as long you want to feel good once you get started. At least that is my experience. Best of luck.

 

[Mobster]

Your test numbers aren't actually that bad. Well above baseline

 

[LevButlerov]

I'll be trying to do a paper log soon and learn here, post something soon !

@medengines waiting for the Log, we will be supporting you.

 

[ceo]

bros Sounds like you got a good plan.
now you got to put it into action.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Consistency, is what you need from here.

This is why we recommend doing a log Journal.

 

[chesty]

Would love to see what you look like. Now this way, we can transform you into a mean and lean fighting machine.

 

[Ulter]

Definitely a great opportunity would be to put up a log.

This way, we can guide you step by step.

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

LOG APPROVED - PLEASE POST A LOG

 

[e2]

There is a lot of different ways we can approach this. The truth is, if you don't need trt, then there's no reason to jump on it. So soon.

 

[2Thick]

A lot of people think trt will solve everything, and a lot of times, it doesn't

By eating a healthy diet and exercise will definitely get you in the right direction.