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UGL OZ - Aussie Domesitc Source - (the real AusJuice)

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Hi all,

I've probably dealt with a lot of you in the past prior to my closure back in 2020. I'm the original owner and founder of AusJuice, AusMeds and Platinum Anabolics (you'll know me as AJ). I built AusJuice back in 2013 (initially running on various darknet markets) and eventually launched onto the clearnet in 2014. We were considered by many as pioneers in the Aussie domestic scene as well as the most reliable having been Australia's longest running online domestic source at the time.

There's been a lot of confusion over the last 4-5 weeks which I'd like to clear up. I haven't been given the opportunity to do it on any of the other Aussie boards as the person who has been impersonating me by re-registering my domains happens to sponsor a couple of them. Naturally, the mods immediately delete my posts and enforce a ban to silence me.

Hopefully my efforts here fare better but before I proceed and bore you with the details, there is a very simple way that I can verify who I am.

If you've ever ordered from AusJuice or AusMeds between 2014 up until our closure in 2020, simply shoot me an email: [email protected]

I'll be able to provide you with completely verifiable information by supplying you with your previous order information (order IDs + complete order details) - along with any other questions you may have. I implore you to try do the same with the the site operators who are impersonating me. They'll dodge the question and give you some bullshit answer about 'scrubbing order data', but why is it I can supply it and they can't? The truth speaks for itself.

Onto the facts:

When did AusJuice and AusMeds close down?

AusJuice and AusMeds officially closed in October 2020. We closed our checkouts, however we continued to operate for another month after this (checking email and responding to customers/reposting orders/checking for anything we may have missed etc) to ensure that all customers received their orders and to resolve any issues that may have surfaced (ie: missing or incorrect products in their parcels). We gracefully shut down and we did the right thing by all customers – something I am especially proud of.

Why did we shut down?

COVID presented many issues which resulted in multiple supply chain shocks that made it difficult for us to get the material we needed to manufacture new products. Adding to this was domestic AusPost delays which meant parcels were taking days or weeks to arrive. Imports were also undergoing rigorous biohazard security scanning and anything from China was under heavy scrutiny which dramatically impacted seizure rate.

And finally, during all this chaos, one of our trusted employees got raided which affected our operational security and put the rest of our team at risk. Put simply, things were just way too hot for us and we wouldn’t have been able to maintain the level of quality our customers were used to, and even more likely, during the crackdown after the raid we were only putting ourselves at risk. The safety of our customers and my employees will always come before making a dollar.

What happened to your domains?

During our hiatus, our AusJuice and AusMeds domains expired and they were re-registered by unknown parties. They are not ran by me and I have no affiliation with them. Both sites are using a copy of the sites I designed - likely stolen/copied using archive.org references. Either way, I have no association with them and anyone claiming that we do are blatantly lying.

Why are you back now?

The hiatus was brutal for us, especially me. While AusJuice may be seen by many as just some ‘gear website’, it’s more than that to me. While what we do may not be considered “legal”, I operated it very much like any successful and reputable commercial retail business: with great customer service and great products.

I completely immersed myself in this industry and eventually it formed my identity: AJ. When we first launched our clear-net web in 2014 we cemented our place in the Aussie scene. There were no other sites doing what we were doing or at the scale we were doing it at. Across multiple forums we have pages and pages and pages of positive reviews. Our commitment to you and our business has been proven time and time again, this time will be no different.

Our reputation was, is, and always will be paramount to me. I spent a decade building it and I wouldn’t do anything to tarnish that.

Anything else?

The operators impersonating me/my old sites are actually fulfilling orders. Putting aside all the frustration they've caused me, I consider this a plus as they're at least not scamming people. They've also gone to some great lengths to counterfeit our 'Platinum Anabolics' vials too by trying to replicate our original transparent labels and lids. They got pretty close, but not perfect. Those who ordered from us over all the years can pick out the differences in the vials (the embossed lid is completely different, addition of gold, some missing content, and I think I saw an expiry date too). I know our imposter friend is here on these forums as well - so if you're reading this 'Max', shoot me an email. I can provide you with the original design files for the labels if you come clean about everything :)

Putting all the petty bullshit aside, they saw an opportunity and they took it. I dropped the ball by letting the domains expire so it is what it is.

My main focus now is rebuilding. It took me almost a decade last time and I'm not worried if it takes me another decade now. I'm here for the long haul.

In the end, quality service and quality product will prevail - and karma always has a way of going around ;)

Happy to answer any other questions you may have.

Cheers

AJ
 
(Posting as a separate comment so it doesn't get lost in the wall of text above):

We're also running a 20% discount off all items for the month of June:

Use coupon 'EOFY20' at checkout for 20% off your order.

https://ugloz.is/

Enjoy!

AJ
 
Good to see you back mate, done plenty of orders off the clear net sites over the years was always quick and easy with quality products. Hopefully you bounce back bigger then ever
 
Good to see you back mate, done plenty of orders off the clear net sites over the years was always quick and easy with quality products. Hopefully you bounce back bigger then ever

Appreciate the kind words mate, it's great to be back!

I was happy to find that Evolutionary was still up and the Aussie boards here were still active. A lot of the old boards seem to have disappeared (Aussie Gym Junkies, steroid-forums, etc).

AJ
 
Hey Aj,

Just want to commend you on the transparency of the post. You were before my time but being open about everything is a good sign for everyone thinking about purchasing from UGL.

Also good to see someone like Bigfranco come by and put a positive post towards your name.

Very interested to see how everyone goes with you and looking forward to getting some in the future! All the best
 
Appreciate the kind words mate, it's great to be back!

I was happy to find that Evolutionary was still up and the Aussie boards here were still active. A lot of the old boards seem to have disappeared (Aussie Gym Junkies, steroid-forums, etc).

AJ

Yeah most are gone these days it’s a shame, got a good crew here though. Is your only account here ugloz cause there’s a recent post by an account “ausjuice” with all details of the old sites and email address
 
Hey Aj,

Just want to commend you on the transparency of the post. You were before my time but being open about everything is a good sign for everyone thinking about purchasing from UGL.

Also good to see someone like Bigfranco come by and put a positive post towards your name.

Very interested to see how everyone goes with you and looking forward to getting some in the future! All the best

Thanks mate!

Yeah most are gone these days it’s a shame, got a good crew here though. Is your only account here ugloz cause there’s a recent post by an account “ausjuice” with all details of the old sites and email address

Yeah, that account here is the imposter I mentioned in my OP. He's going by the name 'Max' or 'MaxMuscles' which is an attempt to imitate my old customer service rep (who was actually 'MaxMuscle' - no 's' on the end).

My domains dropped during our hiatus and someone has re-registered them pretending to be us. They're popping up on a few different forums which has been pretty frustrating. With all the effort they've gone to to counterfeit our brand you'd think they'd want to try to build something original for themselves. Lots of bad eggs unfortunately, but it is what it is. I'm just looking to move forward at this point.

AJ
 
Yeah most are gone these days it’s a shame, got a good crew here though. Is your only account here ugloz cause there’s a recent post by an account “ausjuice” with all details of the old sites and email address

The facts are ugloz is an imposter. And we have been dealing with him for over the last weeks on a number of aussie boards that we are respected members of which they have been booted off. Taking advantage of our hard work and decades of work.

We relaunched ausmeds.is on 22nd Febuary 2023 and ugloz registered their domain 2 days after that on 24th of Febuary 2023 as they saw the opportunity and ran with it. Nothing more than opportunistic parasites.

They sell whack scam brands including their main brand Sparta which is heavily associated as a massive scam/bunk brand over the last couple years, if you check other forums. And they take aim at our original Platinum Anabolics brand which is backed by HPLC reports here as recent as 8th June 2023: https://ausjuice.com/hplc-platinum-anabolics/

We have held our original domains since 2018 and 2020 respectively see here:

https://www.whois.com/whois/ausjuice.com

https://www.whois.com/whois/ausmeds.com

I'm done spending time going back and forth with these people. We'll let our customers and quality products do the talking. Happy to discuss over email with current and new customers as we have a plethora of proof. [email protected] and [email protected]

Best of luck with this company, but have some respect and be original and build your own reputation and brand.

-AJ (The real one)

www.ausjuice.com for authentic platinum anabolics products since 2014
www.ausmeds.is for authentic pharma grade products since 2015
 
The facts are ugloz is an imposter. And we have been dealing with him for over the last weeks on a number of aussie boards that we are respected members of which they have been booted off. Taking advantage of our hard work and decades of work.

We relaunched ausmeds.is on 22nd Febuary 2023 and ugloz registered their domain 2 days after that on 24th of Febuary 2023 as they saw the opportunity and ran with it. Nothing more than opportunistic parasites.

They sell whack scam brands including their main brand Sparta which is heavily associated as a massive scam/bunk brand over the last couple years, if you check other forums. And they take aim at our original Platinum Anabolics brand which is backed by HPLC reports here as recent as 8th June 2023: https://ausjuice.com/hplc-platinum-anabolics/

We have held our original domains since 2018 and 2020 respectively see here:

https://www.whois.com/whois/ausjuice.com

https://www.whois.com/whois/ausmeds.com

I'm done spending time going back and forth with these people. We'll let our customers and quality products do the talking. Happy to discuss over email with current and new customers as we have a plethora of proof. [email protected] and [email protected]

Best of luck with this company, but have some respect and be original and build your own reputation and brand.

-AJ (The real one)

www.ausjuice.com for authentic platinum anabolics products since 2014
www.ausmeds.is for authentic pharma grade products since 2015

Those lab reports don't lie.

Following thread as I'm interested to see people's experiences with both.
 
@ausjuice Wow. You really have no shame, eh?

The whois information proves nothing. My .com was seized back in 2017 by internet.bs as a result of complaints made to ICANN for running am underground pharmacy on that TLD.

We then registered the .is domain (which seems to have been re-registered by yet _another_ unknown party which is why you're only operating on the .com). Internet.bs later released the domain which was auctioned off on Dan.com and some how you managed to snipe it.

We can go back and forth all day, but why don't you leave it to the customers to decide? I'm open to them emailing me and can supply completely verifiable information in the form of all their previous order history - something that you can not. Why is that, exactly? And why do I have this information?

And if you're going to counterfeit labels, at least get them right -

You can find the original design files/template for MY Platinum Anabolics label here. This should help you out with your next print run seeing as though you screwed up on the last one ;)

https://ibb.co/hyKPwCL

Did you want the PDF files? Heh.

It's only a matter of time before this blows back in your face and the community sees through your lies. No matter how elaborate you weave your web of bullshit, the truth will always surface in time. You're scum.

AJ
 
Probably also worth noting that I've still had the credentials to my old accounts and have access to my tenured (9 year old) eroids user account, too: https://www.eroids.com/users/ausjuice

It was one of the first sites I signed up to. Sadly all the other old school forums have disappeared but I'd log into those too if they were still around.

You'll notice that the ausjuice page on eroids go to the new web site.

You're building a house of cards mate. I can't wait to see it fall.

AJ
 
Wow. You really have no shame, eh?

The whois information proves nothing. My .com was seized back in 2017 by internet.bs as a result of complaints made to ICANN for running am underground pharmacy on that TLD.

We then registered the .is domain (which seems to have been re-registered by yet _another_ unknown party which is why you're only operating on the .com). Internet.bs later released the domain which was auctioned off on Dan.com and some how you managed to snipe it.

We can go back and forth all day, but why don't you leave it to the customers to decide? I'm open to them emailing me and can supply completely verifiable information in the form of all their previous order history - something that you can not. Why is that, exactly? And why do I have this information?

And if you're going to counterfeit labels, at least get them right -

You can find the original design files/template for MY Platinum Anabolics label here. This should help you out with your next print run seeing as though you screwed up on the last one ;)

https://ibb.co/hyKPwCL

Did you want the PDF files? Heh.

It's only a matter of time before this blows back in your face and the community sees through your lies. No matter how elaborate you weave your web of bullshit, the truth will always surface in time. You're scum.

AJ
 
It's clear you emailed the mods some elaborate story just like you've been doing on all forums with little to no sucess. They likely didn't do due diligence. We are confident the mods will see the evidence presented and make changes to that.

If you want to run a scam with sub par scam products Sparta and the platinum rip off that's your prerogative but we are focussing on our customers which we have thousands of and we are delivering HPLC tested products which is worlds apart from what you're doing.

2 days after we sent out a launch email to our 10 year old email database you decided to register ugloz and make a play at it. Crazy opportunistic delusion and terrible execution. Lets let the community decide what sounds more plausible. I'm doing engaging with a parasite like yourself.

-AJ
 
You continue to avoid any of the questions I ask and regurgitate the same crap.

1) Why can I supply customer order history and you can't?
2) Why have you poorly counterfeited our labels and I have the exact design files (linked above)?
3) Why is it that I have access to 9+ year old accounts and you do not?

All you've managed to do is re-register our old domains and counterfeit my labels and now you're desperately trying to get people to believe you because you've been called out on it.

A domain is a domain mate, it doesn't make you me. Produce some hard evidence already.

AJ
 
You continue to avoid any of the questions I ask and regurgitate the same crap.

1) Why can I supply customer order history and you can't?
2) Why have you poorly counterfeited our labels and I have the exact design files (linked above)?
3) Why is it that I have access to 9+ year old accounts and you do not?

All you've managed to do is re-register our old domains and counterfeit my labels and now you're desperately trying to get people to believe you because you've been called out on it.

A domain is a domain mate, it doesn't make you me. Produce some hard evidence already.

AJ

We have all the proof we need. Full customer lists we can verify customers. Dated registration dates for our domains 5 years old. Genuine Platinum products. Why are you selling cheap low quality sparta and garbage platinum? Our products are high-quality and anyone that has purchased can see that they are beyond your wheelhouse. Not not mention our product is HPLC tested too - https://ausjuice.com/hplc-platinum-anabolics/

For all we know your product is non existent or completely bunk like the previous sparta products floating around. Not to mention a domain that's created 2 days after our relaunch (coincidence or?)

My evolutionary account is from 2015 so what. You're clutching at straws.

Anyway enjoy riding our coat tails, this is the end of the debate because you are clearly delusional and have no merit. We will continue to serve our thousands of customer and you will continue to be a keyboard warrior.

- AJ
 
You're really into those HPLC reports, eh? You're selling real gear - great. I acknowledged this in my OP.

The issue here isn't whether or not what you're selling is bunk, it is what you're selling it as. You're not me, you're not Platinum, you're not AusJuice. You can carry on repeating yourself but it'll never make it true.

So once again, I'll ask in point form:

1. Why do I have access to customer order information and you do not? You give non-descript and vague reports, or answers like 'order data info was scrubbed for security purposes'. People will eventually see through that shit.
2. Why are your labels poor counterfeits and I was able to supply the real files? (btw, make sure you use them on your next print run. If you're going to do something, at least do it right)
3. How do I have access to all of this information? Truly, how can you explain it?

I really have no interest in this back and forth shit. It's been exhausting having to deal with all the frustration you've caused, but I can't help myself from replying because unlike you this is actually something I care deeply about. I built this with years of blood and sweat from absolute nothing, and I'm not going to let some prick who has managed to register domains and print off some labels take that away from me.

I'm going to fight you to the end mate. No matter how long it takes. I'm never going to give up and I'm going to constantly be everywhere you are. Eventually this will catch up to you. Karma can be a cunt of a thing.

AJ
 
You're really into those HPLC reports, eh? You're selling real gear - great. I acknowledged this in my OP.

The issue here isn't whether or not what you're selling is bunk, it is what you're selling it as. You're not me, you're not Platinum, you're not AusJuice. You can carry on repeating yourself but it'll never make it true.

So once again, I'll ask in point form:

1. Why do I have access to customer order information and you do not? You give non-descript and vague reports, or answers like 'order data info was scrubbed for security purposes'. People will eventually see through that shit.
2. Why are your labels poor counterfeits and I was able to supply the real files? (btw, make sure you use them on your next print run. If you're going to do something, at least do it right)
3. How do I have access to all of this information? Truly, how can you explain it?

I really have no interest in this back and forth shit. It's been exhausting having to deal with all the frustration you've caused, but I can't help myself from replying because unlike you this is actually something I care deeply about. I built this with years of blood and sweat from absolute nothing, and I'm not going to let some prick who has managed to register domains and print off some labels take that away from me.

I'm going to fight you to the end mate. No matter how long it takes. I'm never going to give up and I'm going to constantly be everywhere you are. Eventually this will catch up to you. Karma can be a cunt of a thing.

AJ


Last post, I won't waste anymore time after this. We have verified customer data for hundreds if not thousands of our returning customers already - customers have returned in droves with confidence and verified where needed. Our email list is 40,000+ strong. You can claim whatever you like but our customers are confident and buying. End of the day we have our premium websites which dates back to 2014, we have our premium product range which is backed by HPLC testing, we have the superior knowledge of the space and customer care that is unmatched. So I couldn't care what you say or do. We'll let the results and customer satisfaction do the talking. We've been here for a decade. You've been here since February...

I advise anyone reading to consider this man is completely unknown. He is offering crap branded and bunk products (sparta and platinum copy - scam products - google it), terrible attitude, banned from multiple forums for making up lies and harassing members. You're going to need all the luck you can get.

-AJ
 
And again, you carry on without addressing any of the questions I asked. You continue to regurgitate the same shit. The traits of a desperate, pathological liar.

Give us hard facts my man!

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1. Why do I have access to customer order information and you do not? You give non-descript and vague reports, or answers like 'order data info was scrubbed for security purposes'. People will eventually see through that shit.
2. Why are your labels poor counterfeits and I was able to supply the real files? (btw, make sure you use them on your next print run. If you're going to do something, at least do it right)
3. How do I have access to all of this information? Truly, how can you explain it?
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You keep repeating what you have which are some HPLC reports and my old domains. But no facts. Like I said, that house of cards of yours... it's going to fall. ;)

AJ
 
And again, you carry on without addressing any of the questions I asked. You continue to regurgitate the same shit. The traits of a desperate, pathological liar.

Give us hard facts my man!

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1. Why do I have access to customer order information and you do not? You give non-descript and vague reports, or answers like 'order data info was scrubbed for security purposes'. People will eventually see through that shit.
2. Why are your labels poor counterfeits and I was able to supply the real files? (btw, make sure you use them on your next print run. If you're going to do something, at least do it right)
3. How do I have access to all of this information? Truly, how can you explain it?
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You keep repeating what you have which are some HPLC reports and my old domains. But no facts. Like I said, that house of cards of yours... it's going to fall. ;)

AJ

Other thread*: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...omesitc-source-(the-real-ausjuice)-89764.html
 
Good to see you back mate, done plenty of orders off the clear net sites over the years was always quick and easy with quality products. Hopefully you bounce back bigger then ever

@BigFranco would you consider verifying myself (and this fraud) to see which one of us can provide you with previous order information? (Completely - order IDs/shipping/wallet addresses/items ordered)?

Apologies to pull you into this but having a neutral and respected member of the community such as yourself to verify would surely put this matter to bed.

AJ
 
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