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UGL OZ - Aussie Domesitc Source - (the real AusJuice)

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@BigFranco would you consider verifying myself (and this fraud) to see which one of us can provide you with previous order information? (Completely - order IDs/shipping/wallet addresses/items ordered)?

Apologies to pull you into this but having a neutral and respected member of the community such as yourself to verify would surely put this matter to bed.

AJ

I’ll send you a PM mate
 
@BigFranco would you consider verifying myself (and this fraud) to see which one of us can provide you with previous order information? (Completely - order IDs/shipping/wallet addresses/items ordered)?

Apologies to pull you into this but having a neutral and respected member of the community such as yourself to verify would surely put this matter to bed.

AJ

Just to add: all you’d need to provide is an email address. Entirely up to you if you feel comfortable doing so.

AJ

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I’ll send you a PM mate

Thanks mate! Im not sure if I’m able to see PMs because my post count is less than 50, but you can email me at [email protected]

Greatly appreciated, thank you.

AJ

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I’ll send you a PM mate

Thanks mate! Im not sure if I’m able to see PMs because my post count is less than 50, but you can email me at [email protected]

Greatly appreciated, thank you.

AJ
 
My offer stands for any reputable and tenured Evo brother that was a customer of mine between 2014-2020. Send me an email. That's all I need - just your email address and I can provide you with your complete order history. Then try request the same from our imposter friend. Let's put this matter to bed once and for all.

He can post his HPLC results all he wants - the gear was never in question. I'm glad he's fulfilling orders and not outright scamming people, but if you're going to run a business, build your own. Don't coast on the reputation of someone else's.

To anyone that is interested, shoot me an email: [email protected]

Happy to provide completely factual and verifiable proof, not any if this wish-wash smoke and mirror bullshit this other bloke is peddling.

AJ
 
Ugloz is the real deal man. I was an old buyer back in the day, emailed him and he's given me order details from what was ordered, which address I was at the time and the pricing. Went back on my old emails to verify and they matched up.
 
My offer stands for any reputable and tenured Evo brother that was a customer of mine between 2014-2020. Send me an email. That's all I need - just your email address and I can provide you with your complete order history. Then try request the same from our imposter friend. Let's put this matter to bed once and for all.

He can post his HPLC results all he wants - the gear was never in question. I'm glad he's fulfilling orders and not outright scamming people, but if you're going to run a business, build your own. Don't coast on the reputation of someone else's.

To anyone that is interested, shoot me an email: [email protected]

Happy to provide completely factual and verifiable proof, not any if this wish-wash smoke and mirror bullshit this other bloke is peddling.

AJ

Ugloz is the real deal man. I was an old buyer back in the day, emailed him and he's given me order details from what was ordered, which address I was at the time and the pricing. Went back on my old emails to verify and they all matched up.
 
So you’re both selling good gear? Haha

Seems that way. Only one of us are who we say we are, though. ;)

Thinking about this objectively, I suspect our imposter friend is an existing source/lab and crafted this whole campaign in order to expand their operation. You've got to be pretty resourceful to pull something like what he has off and at the lengths he's gone to (ripping our old site, counterfeiting our labels and lids - albeit not perfect, he recreated what he could using the product images that were available on our site. If you go back a through the pages, you can see I actually provided an image of our real label design files to show all the content he missed as it wasn't visible in the photos).

I assume he didn't expect me to return, so it would've been a shock when I relaunched and called him out on his lies. He's hoping people don't challenge him simply by having the .com. Fact is, we hadn't used it in years since it was seized from us all those years ago, so that in itself is in no way an authority. Anyone can re-register a domain name. Challenge him to provide hard evidence about your previous interactions with AusJuice (order information, support emails, etc) - he won't be able to produce anything. I can.

He'll probably post here again soon with HPLC reports and whois information. That appears to be his go-to canned response.

AJ
 
Seems that way. Only one of us are who we say we are, though. ;)

Thinking about this objectively, I suspect our imposter friend is an existing source/lab and crafted this whole campaign in order to expand their operation. You've got to be pretty resourceful to pull something like what he has off and at the lengths he's gone to (ripping our old site, counterfeiting our labels and lids - albeit not perfect, he recreated what he could using the product images that were available on our site. If you go back a through the pages, you can see I actually provided an image of our real label design files to show all the content he missed as it wasn't visible in the photos).

I assume he didn't expect me to return, so it would've been a shock when I relaunched and called him out on his lies. He's hoping people don't challenge him simply by having the .com. Fact is, we hadn't used it in years since it was seized from us all those years ago, so that in itself is in no way an authority. Anyone can re-register a domain name. Challenge him to provide hard evidence about your previous interactions with AusJuice (order information, support emails, etc) - he won't be able to produce anything. I can.

He'll probably post here again soon with HPLC reports and whois information. That appears to be his go-to canned response.

AJ

Hey Aj,

Definitely starting to believe you are the real deal and you are who you say you are.

Do you have any results from any testing you may have done on any of your gear?

I'm fairly new to the scene so I don't know who you are / your reputation but from my understanding, it's pretty solid. I've always used Apex but he's out of action for a few months so I'm looking for a new source.

Looking forward to building a quality relationship for years to come.
 
Hey Aj,

Definitely starting to believe you are the real deal and you are who you say you are.

Do you have any results from any testing you may have done on any of your gear?

I'm fairly new to the scene so I don't know who you are / your reputation but from my understanding, it's pretty solid. I've always used Apex but he's out of action for a few months so I'm looking for a new source.

Looking forward to building a quality relationship for years to come.

Hey Troy,

Appreciate that mate, thank you. We don't have any HPLC reports available just yet but they're in the works. Having said that, I'd also encourage customers to submit their own samples to janoshik too (or any other credible facilitator they have available to them). Independent tests carried out by members of the community without any source involvement would be the most ideal, but we'll be posting as soon as results become available too.

AJ
 
Been talking to Aj (UGLOZ) all arvo, hes the real one. Has all my order history and this explains why Mr max muscles didnt remember stuff i ordered haha. Keen to try out AJ's test e and tren ace, ill post bloods after a month on cycle. If ausjuice is legit, post order history and whatever else UGLoz asked for!
 
Hi all,

I was a customer of AJ from 2016-2020.

He always had the best gear/comms, so when I started receiving emails from the AusJuice domain a few months ago, I was skeptical, but excited to hopefully have a solid source again. I’ve held off putting in an order to see if more information came to light or if others could verify him.

After seeing UGLOZ pop up under the original AusJuice’s account on Eroids (+ changing the listing their accordingly) and then finding this thread, I decided to do some digging.

Before I get into the meat and potatoes, I understand this account was created today and was only created to post this. So if admins/mods would like to verify anything I cover off, I’m more than happy to do so without exposing PII.

My only motivation here is to help verify the real AJ, so I can have confidence in a quality source again.

Enough throat clearing…

I’d like to preface this likely long ass post with the fact that I don’t doubt whoever is behind the AusJuice.com now is sending quality gear. So if you order from them, you’ll likely get what you want and it will likely be good quality gear based on what I’ve been reading, and the tests they’ve provided.

However, I’m all but certain they aren’t the original/real AusJuice and that UGLOZ (evolutionary.org) is.

There’s two parts to me reaching that conclusion that I’ll break down.

1. UGLOZ being able to verify all orders I placed under an email I account I used during 2019/20 and replying to order queries from his original support admin email.

2. The current AusJuice.com operators claim to legitimacy is all based on him owning the domains, specifically the AusJuice.com domain, from 2018 until now — which he did not.

First the verified orders.

He was able to verify all orders under that email.

Here’s screenshots of one of the orders he gave for verification: https://ibb.co/4WTxv5P

And here’s the original email when I placed the order: https://ibb.co/64S6kyZ

I’ve redacted any PII, although I’ve left enough for anyone to see it’s legit.

He was also able to get access to his old support email address and reply to a support ticket I created in 2020.

Screenshot: https://ibb.co/CM6PSnk

Of course, playing devils advocate here, screenshots can be faked. So if you’re an AJ buyer and skeptical, go and ask for the same info yourself and I’m sure you'll get it.

Now onto the domain ownership.

This one confused me because it took me the best part of 5 minutes to realise the current owner of AusJuice.com didn’t own that domain from 2018 until now. So I really don’t know why he claimed this and puts so much emphasis on it.

You can view full domain history of any domain using whois’s history tool. You can sign up for a free acc and do the same search I did here:

https://whois-history.whoisxmlapi.com/

A few things I noted for people who cbf doing that. This is pulled directly from a report generated using the above link for anyone who wants to verify it themselves.

November 29, 2018

- Name servers are changed to interimnameservers.com
- Domain register changed to "DropJump"
- A quick Google search confirms these are tied back to: https://snapnames.com/
- Snap names have a domain backorder service to snipe domains when they become available

December 2, 2018

- A few days later, contact details are updated to Danny Sullivan.
- [email protected]
- A quick Google search of that email and name shows he's an avid domain sniper/reseller, shows up in multiple forums with people complaining about losing their domain and him selling them on + others selling domains with his email listed etc.
- From 2018 till 2022 the DNS records, owner name and what not bounce around. This is common when trying to sell a domain.

March 10, 2022

- This is the last time Danny Sullivan ([email protected]) was listed as the domain owner. From June 7, 2022 the owner info is redacted. Potentially when whoever owns the domain now acquired it.

Honestly there’s a whole bunch of other random stuff I’ve found that leads me to believe the current owner didn’t own and wasn’t in control of that domain from 2018 like he says. Hence isn’t the real AusJuice.

A way back machine search shows the domain for sale on dan.com in 2020. Search AusJuice.com here: https://web.archive.org/

Something else that’s strange af is that you can buy the domain right now on Dan.com for $9,995 usd. Sometimes you can “backorder” domains, but this listing, as far as I can tell is to buy the domain (it says you’ll have access in less than 24-hours and that's at the point of paying for it…).

I cbf writing anymore.

Don’t take what I’ve said here at face value, do your own research, verify everything for yourself. I’m sure you’ll come to similar conclusions.

TLDR: All the facts lead me to believe UGLOZ (evolutionary.org) is the original/real AusJuice.com/AusJuice.is/AusMeds.is owner. The current AusJuice.com owner is by all reports sending good quality gear and shipping orders on time, although he ain’t the OG AJ imo.
 
Ugloz is the real deal man. I was an old buyer back in the day, emailed him and he's given me order details from what was ordered, which address I was at the time and the pricing. Went back on my old emails to verify and they matched up.

Been talking to Aj (UGLOZ) all arvo, hes the real one. Has all my order history and this explains why Mr max muscles didnt remember stuff i ordered haha. Keen to try out AJ's test e and tren ace, ill post bloods after a month on cycle. If ausjuice is legit, post order history and whatever else UGLoz asked for!

Thanks for taking the time to reach out and giving me the opportunity!

Happy to do the same for any other members that were previous customers, just shoot me an email: [email protected]

Cheers

AJ
 
Ugloz is the real ausjuice.
Sent an email to confirm he then replied with All my orders backed from 2020.
Order price, address compounds etc.
Aj then also replied back to one of our old emails from 2020. Solid evedence. Will be ordering soon
 
Ugloz is the real deal man. I was an old buyer back in the day, emailed him and he's given me order details from what was ordered, which address I was at the time and the pricing. Went back on my old emails to verify and they matched up.

Been talking to Aj (UGLOZ) all arvo, hes the real one. Has all my order history and this explains why Mr max muscles didnt remember stuff i ordered haha. Keen to try out AJ's test e and tren ace, ill post bloods after a month on cycle. If ausjuice is legit, post order history and whatever else UGLoz asked for!

Hi all,

I was a customer of AJ from 2016-2020.

He always had the best gear/comms, so when I started receiving emails from the AusJuice domain a few months ago, I was skeptical, but excited to hopefully have a solid source again. I’ve held off putting in an order to see if more information came to light or if others could verify him.

After seeing UGLOZ pop up under the original AusJuice’s account on Eroids (+ changing the listing their accordingly) and then finding this thread, I decided to do some digging.

Before I get into the meat and potatoes, I understand this account was created today and was only created to post this. So if admins/mods would like to verify anything I cover off, I’m more than happy to do so without exposing PII.

My only motivation here is to help verify the real AJ, so I can have confidence in a quality source again.

Enough throat clearing…

I’d like to preface this likely long ass post with the fact that I don’t doubt whoever is behind the AusJuice.com now is sending quality gear. So if you order from them, you’ll likely get what you want and it will likely be good quality gear based on what I’ve been reading, and the tests they’ve provided.

However, I’m all but certain they aren’t the original/real AusJuice and that UGLOZ (evolutionary.org) is.

There’s two parts to me reaching that conclusion that I’ll break down.

1. UGLOZ being able to verify all orders I placed under an email I account I used during 2019/20 and replying to order queries from his original support admin email.

2. The current AusJuice.com operators claim to legitimacy is all based on him owning the domains, specifically the AusJuice.com domain, from 2018 until now — which he did not.

First the verified orders.

He was able to verify all orders under that email.

Here’s screenshots of one of the orders he gave for verification: https://ibb.co/4WTxv5P

And here’s the original email when I placed the order: https://ibb.co/64S6kyZ

I’ve redacted any PII, although I’ve left enough for anyone to see it’s legit.

He was also able to get access to his old support email address and reply to a support ticket I created in 2020.

Screenshot: https://ibb.co/CM6PSnk

Of course, playing devils advocate here, screenshots can be faked. So if you’re an AJ buyer and skeptical, go and ask for the same info yourself and I’m sure you'll get it.

Now onto the domain ownership.

This one confused me because it took me the best part of 5 minutes to realise the current owner of AusJuice.com didn’t own that domain from 2018 until now. So I really don’t know why he claimed this and puts so much emphasis on it.

You can view full domain history of any domain using whois’s history tool. You can sign up for a free acc and do the same search I did here:

https://whois-history.whoisxmlapi.com/

A few things I noted for people who cbf doing that. This is pulled directly from a report generated using the above link for anyone who wants to verify it themselves.

November 29, 2018

- Name servers are changed to interimnameservers.com
- Domain register changed to "DropJump"
- A quick Google search confirms these are tied back to: https://snapnames.com/
- Snap names have a domain backorder service to snipe domains when they become available

December 2, 2018

- A few days later, contact details are updated to Danny Sullivan.
- [email protected]
- A quick Google search of that email and name shows he's an avid domain sniper/reseller, shows up in multiple forums with people complaining about losing their domain and him selling them on + others selling domains with his email listed etc.
- From 2018 till 2022 the DNS records, owner name and what not bounce around. This is common when trying to sell a domain.

March 10, 2022

- This is the last time Danny Sullivan ([email protected]) was listed as the domain owner. From June 7, 2022 the owner info is redacted. Potentially when whoever owns the domain now acquired it.

Honestly there’s a whole bunch of other random stuff I’ve found that leads me to believe the current owner didn’t own and wasn’t in control of that domain from 2018 like he says. Hence isn’t the real AusJuice.

A way back machine search shows the domain for sale on dan.com in 2020. Search AusJuice.com here: https://web.archive.org/

Something else that’s strange af is that you can buy the domain right now on Dan.com for $9,995 usd. Sometimes you can “backorder” domains, but this listing, as far as I can tell is to buy the domain (it says you’ll have access in less than 24-hours and that's at the point of paying for it…).

I cbf writing anymore.

Don’t take what I’ve said here at face value, do your own research, verify everything for yourself. I’m sure you’ll come to similar conclusions.

TLDR: All the facts lead me to believe UGLOZ (evolutionary.org) is the original/real AusJuice.com/AusJuice.is/AusMeds.is owner. The current AusJuice.com owner is by all reports sending good quality gear and shipping orders on time, although he ain’t the OG AJ imo.

Amazing write up. Thank you for taking the time to provide such a detailed response mate. Truly appreciated.

Ugloz is the real ausjuice.
Sent an email to confirm he then replied with All my orders backed from 2020.
Order price, address compounds etc.
Aj then also replied back to one of our old emails from 2020. Solid evedence. Will be ordering soon


Thank you mate. Looking forward to serving you again.

AJ
 
Can vouch for ugloz, my original Evo account won't let me post so had to create a new one, sent ugl an email couple of days ago and said I was an old customer and sent him my email, within 10 minutes he replied with my name, address, order, and even the address the Bitcoin was paid into, with that information it is pretty clear he is the real AJ
 
what sites can we use to buy btc atm for the payment? just tried to send some money to binance and apparently my bank doesnt allow it
 
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