UGL's testing

[gainscity]

Why is it so hard to find a UGL around here who tests their products? When we are paying loyal customers who are about to put a oil or pill in our bodies and these sources expect us to just have to "trust" its what it says on the label. Well these UGL's are banking money from their customers and you'd think the very least they could do with that good money is actually show real testing papers.. well because they can definitely afford to do so. It'd also improve their business to a higher degree if they have the PURE stuff and also make it so we as customers are comfortable and don't waste our money on bunk or even have problems from injecting who knows what. If I see a source who tests all their stuff and is 80%plus purity on everything you best believe I'll be a damn loyal customer along with many others. This is all we ask to all of you UGL's I hope the business protocols improve on the black market.

 

[-SD-]

What sort of test? Labmax? Mass Spec?
UGL's get labmaxed all the time but why dont you look into what it costs to get something mass spec'd. Then look into what facility would allow an illegal UGL to send them product to get tested then get back to us.

Yea I didnt think so.

 

[dylangemelli]

This is why the reviews section is so integral... Evo provides real reviews and feedback that ensure members are making wise decisions...

 

[wowstrongarms]

This. Not a single legitimate facility out there to give a GOOD PROPER mass spec/hlpc. It literally does not exist at the moment.

 

[Payrion]

Blood work is the best tool we have easily available to us. Although there is a difference in what people consider good blood serums and bad ones... It seems the community is excepting lower then normal levels now a days.

 

[gainscity]

What sort of test? Labmax? Mass Spec?
UGL's get labmaxed all the time but why dont you look into what it costs to get something mass spec'd. Then look into what facility would allow an illegal UGL to send them product to get tested then get back to us.

Yea I didnt think so.

Isn't there people on here who will mass spec?

 

[userbrah]

This. Not a single legitimate facility out there to give a GOOD PROPER mass spec/hlpc. It literally does not exist at the moment.

Not true.
You have to send overseas to get it tested now.
@SD
It costs about 300$ if you find a legitimate lab that has the equipment.

 

[-SD-]

Not true.
You have to send overseas to get it tested now.
@SD
It costs about 300$ if you find a legitimate lab that has the equipment.

Sorry I meant what it costs to buy the mass spec equipment to test it, if not then trying to find a legit facility to test it out. Either way its not feasible

 

[Dreaux]

blood test from consumers...i get mine tested every 6 months.

 

[wowstrongarms]

Not true.
You have to send overseas to get it tested now.
@SD
It costs about 300$ if you find a legitimate lab that has the equipment.

I've seen tons of overseas labs do tests, and not a single one has been legitimate. So when you find this magical egg of a legitimate lab testing steroid powders, do share.

 

[gainscity]

Sorry I meant what it costs to buy the mass spec equipment to test it, if not then trying to find a legit facility to test it out. Either way its not feasible

how much does mass spec equipment cost?

 

[bigchief333]

I've seen tons of overseas labs do tests, and not a single one has been legitimate. So when you find this magical egg of a legitimate lab testing steroid powders, do share.

There are plenty of places who will do mass spec testing, the problem is that they test water for contaminants, soil and stuff like that. Most places who test pharmaceutical products are owned by pharmacies, who else would really need that besides us. I have been looking for 3 years, I tried 2 times and was scammed both so you are very right.

 

[jackmeoff]

I've seen ugl's post mass specs, blood work and lab max. It's always to no avail because everyone assumes it's fake and even worse becomes even more suspect of their products.

I've seen ugl's recruit forum vets to test and said vets just wind up being accused of shilling.

It really is pointless for ugl's to go this route. I'm afraid that the bourdon of quality control will remain on us consumers for the time being. This is why I appreciate when people take imitative to provide objective data


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[jackmeoff]

This is why the reviews section is so integral... Evo provides real reviews and feedback that ensure members are making wise decisions...

Unfortunately the reviews section on evo are hardly objective. I've seen ugl with awesome rep here straight fail lab max or turn up poor blood work.


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[jackmeoff]

how much does mass spec equipment cost?

Around 20k. Even if you have one you need to be educated on using one.


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[dylangemelli]

Unfortunately the reviews section on evo are hardly objective. I've seen ugl with awesome rep here straight fail lab max or turn up poor blood work.


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really... who might that be then since you seem to know so much throughout this thread and just in general... you seem to know more than all these places do themselves so educate the world please

 

[wowstrongarms]

There are plenty of places who will do mass spec testing, the problem is that they test water for contaminants, soil and stuff like that. Most places who test pharmaceutical products are owned by pharmacies, who else would really need that besides us. I have been looking for 3 years, I tried 2 times and was scammed both so you are very right.

Yes it's not that there aren't places to do them, it's that there is no where doing them 100% correctly. Correct calibration curve, correct time frame, having an analytic standard on hand to compare to, and so on. Anyone with the access to all that and the knowledge to do it is not going to risk everything to test steroid powders.

 

[jackmeoff]

really... who might that be then since you seem to know so much throughout this thread and just in general... you seem to know more than all these places do themselves so educate the world please

Use multiple forums in conjunction with one another.


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[bigchief333]

Yes it's not that there aren't places to do them, it's that there is no where doing them 100% correctly. Correct calibration curve, correct time frame, having an analytic standard on hand to compare to, and so on. Anyone with the access to all that and the knowledge to do it is not going to risk everything to test steroid powders.

Absolutely, Another thing is the "university testing" How many universities do you think offer programs centered on analyzing pharmaceuticals, if so do you think they probably cover all bases from non narcotic, narcotic,aas, and otc or do you think that analyzing alot of this stuff is probably learned later during internship and then in the according career path.

Another point is that we are not the only ones who want our raw materials analyzed and a university would know that. There would be alot more students trying to mass spec narcotics than aas products if it were just a free for all so I believe that universities with these capabilities will have preventitive measures in place. Not to mention the 10's of thousands of dollars these things cost and the fact that the average college student is wildly irresponsible.

I think you can almost trace the domestic mass spec fairy tale to one fantastic scammer, he recognized the fact that the population on these forums was getting younger and younger and with that the I want it right now attitude. He educated himself better than the average person and recruited some unwitting accomplices on a few forums and this way became one of the most trusted members in the entire community as a whole. After that reviews, bloodwork and labmax didn't mean half so much as angus's mass specs and he went largely unchallenged for like 2 years until he pushed up on a source that was just as unscrupulous as he was and I guess recognized someone playing his own game. That was one of the biggest houses of cards I've probably ever seen in these forums. IT's so widespread that I know of one forum where Even the most reputable source can't post without mass specs, Even though nobody can get them you just need them anyway.

 

[bigchief333]

Use multiple forums in conjunction with one another.


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With exerience comes the capability to differentiate between those schill reviews and genuine ones. IF your a member for a community for a while you have a pretty good who can be trusted and who can't, also the tricks a source will use to try to manipulate a board. This stuff isn't hard to spot, bloodwork and reviews are all we have, one review isn't worth much nor is one blood test. When you have an average calculated from 5 bloodtests with 5 reviews to go with it you start to get an idea what that source and that particular product are all about, over time hopefully more bloodtests and more reviews will also show you longevity.