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using injectables only no orals

ReturnOfTheMeathead

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pretty much all orals are available in the shot form. halotestin appears to be about the only exception. well that and mibolerone/cheque drops. those 2 you probably shouldnt touch anyway. this appears to be the safer way of doing it. less toxicity. i feel like orals need to become a thing of the past in general. yes the shots can cause health issues, but not as likely as it is with the pills. cool story bro i know lol.
 
Skewed logic for the most part.

So we accept that orals have issues via the need for the 'first pass' methylation, etc, etc. Ok

Then we take multiples of the amounts we'd take in orals when we do injectables. And we know we can still have issues with injectables

And I, for one, would never do the same amounts of orals as we do injectables.

Simple example: 30mg a day dbol = 210mg a week vs Test E at a recommended 2 x 250mg a week - 500mg. So double the oral. Even at 60mg a day dbol (not that common) it'd still be less at 420mg a week

The 'danger' of orals has been overdone. Ditto the 'do them for 4 weeks or less' only etc. That said you're not likely to see (few to none) anyone run orals at injectable doses or for as long (8-16 weeks).

And stevesmi and I did a piece on this on a podcast recently
 
pretty much all orals are available in the shot form. halotestin appears to be about the only exception. well that and mibolerone/cheque drops. those 2 you probably shouldnt touch anyway. this appears to be the safer way of doing it. less toxicity. i feel like orals need to become a thing of the past in general. yes the shots can cause health issues, but not as likely as it is with the pills. cool story bro i know lol.
@ReturnOfTheMeathead I think orals and injectables have their place.

I think most steroid use is highly psychological and from my experience, injectables take 4-6 weeks to kick while orals kick fast.
I think oral steroid use is very important and should be done safely with organ and liver support.
 
i know people who have been doing only oral steroids for 20-30 years who have excellent blood work
and i know people who have done injectables for 5 years who have horrible blood work

that isn't scientific for me to make that statement but we see that logic all the time in the fitness world.

bottom line is you can run orals and you can run injectables both safely and NOT safely.

just like you can be a boxer and get in a good workout safely for 50 years or you can be a boxer who gets punched in the head once and you get brain damage.

fitness isn't a one size fits all thing
 
make sure you use para pharma. they have a lot of good options for both orals and injectables and you will save money
 
i have to use both when i compete
They both are very important and you can't get far using one or the other
 
yeah document it in a log
you can do oral only for eight weeks
and then do injectable only for eight weeks and see what kind of differences there are
 
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a lot of competitors will use an oral as a finisher
an example of this would be Winstrol it makes a perfect finisher taking it orally
 
They have their time and places for our goals. They can be used as safe as possible with the right protection but we all know the risks
 
orals have a time and place you just cant abuse them
 
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