What I Have Learned Over 15 Years of Use & Lifting by Alien8ed
Before I get started I want to clarify a few details. I am not a competitive bodybuilding, I am not a doctor, a scientist or any other alleged expert. Everything that I am going to talk about is based on my sole experience of using steroids and related drugs in a non-competitive bodybuilding format. I am not going to post pictures or pretend that I am the best bodybuilder in the world, nor will I pretend to be an "expert" or guru. I simply want to discuss things that I have found out over the years and that will hopefully help some of you to save time and achieve what you want. I have a wealth of experience under my belt and believe that the knowledge I possess will be of benefit to some, if not many. The information I will supply will be about use will be focuses about general and bodybuilding in general. It will be based on what I have done and guided others to do to achieve their gains. It will not be about contest prep or the finer details of competitive bodybuilding, more so a generalisation of what I have used to develop in size and condition with a realistic and affordable approach, whilst keeping health paramount.
Over the years I have taught myself how to correct problems in my own body and that of others through diet and supplementing vitamins. I am not a qualified nutritionist, however I can give you no solid methods that have helped me and many others with ailments and share with you my what I believe to be solid information that is easy to follow to ensure you give yourself the best chance of impeccable health. What I will talk about comes from years of making mistakes and learning through trial, error and education in myself and that of others. I have a good range of experience and I believe that some of what I say will be of to benefit most of you at some point. You are more than welcome not to take anything of what I have to say onboard or even mock it, however I hope you read my words and interact in the post and share your views and knowledge, especially the more experienced lifters so that the younger generation can benefit.
The main areas I would like to focus on is use, health and diet as I believe these are the most important, but I will touch on other issues that are related. I am not going to justify the science or get into arguments over what is proven and what is not, these are my beliefs, they are educated and may serve to help you. I will not be discussing sources, where to buy or anything like that, so please do not PM and ask me. I have been on the forum scene for some time
This information will not be in any particular order, I will just be posting my thoughts on different subjects over the weeks to come and bouncing back and forth between topics. Some posts will be more general, some however will be more in-depth. I hope you enjoy what I have to read.
Over Obsession - Training
Luckily this was a lesson learned young. In the early years I used to obsess about training. I thought the more I focused on it and the harder I trained the quicker and better I would develop. How I was wrong! It often held me back as for every piece of information out there there is something contradictory that would confuse me and leave me in limbo. The gains only started to really come strong when I through all that crap out the window and focused on putting together drugs in my body through trial and error. Funnily enough, I actually made my best gains, with the exception of using such things as growth hormone by actually training around twice a week of which the body parts where spread over around a ten day period. Overall for condition and well being, I have found that 3 days a week is optimal for myself with a 5-6 break every couple of months. Anything more is just a waste of my time, joints and patience. I have found gains are more about what I take and my condition is more about what I take and what I eat. Training is required obviously, however I have maintained my weight and condition for lengthy periods training one, sometimes twice a week. Most of these training sessions last 20-30 minutes, occasionally longer if I am tired or if I have been chatting. I have found that training your muscles well comes from experience, it is not something you learn in a video or in the words of text, it is more about learning from over training and learning to step back what you need to do to stimulate the muscle. For me, once the muscle is stimulated, I move onto the next body part or leave. I do the least possible to achieve this. The years of training my energy levels and my joints into the ground so I could fool myself into thinking I was going to get bigger are well and truly gone. Often taking a step back is required to progress forward.
Unrealistic Expectations - The lies that lead to them
Bodybuilding is full of the sick and twisted. It is not an activity where practitioners freely offer good advice, they like to keep secrets and talk lies as more often than not bodybuilders are an insecure breed. Many people will mislead you with what they actually take and do to prevent you advancing as well as you could. Some will mislead you to make money from you (often to cover their expensive habits), however many are selfish individuals and/or inexperienced individuals who paraphrase bull shit wives tails and give bogus advice to try to explain your short comings, all so they can have you believe that they are superior to you in some way. Often only what is superior to these people is the quality of products of what they have in their arsenal and how they put them together. These sorts of people are rife, especially in places where money is involved such as magazines, bodybuilding conventions, supplement shops, internet forums etc. If someone is set to financially gain from something, be wary of their advice.
This leads me on to realistic expectations. Do not seek the natural route and expect the gains of steroid users, do not use steroids and expect that you will achieve the same look of an experienced growth hormone user, do not believe that you can obtain insulin related gains without using insulin, do not expect low doses to produce the same results of higher doses and most of all do not let yourself be fooled into thinking that supplements can achieve the results of pharmaceuticals. The route of a body builder should be to better yourself, do not focus on others. You will have constant dissatisfaction and a bitter taste in your mouth if you fuel yourself on becoming someone else. Size and condition can all be improved, however you individual genetics dictate how all this is put together, if you have a weak chest genetically and strive for the Arnold type chest, you will only make yourself miserable as you will keep coming up short. I will always advocate building the biggest, strongest, leanest you. Critics will always call what you have, everyone's views are different, however the only one that should matter is yours.
Chemical Enhancement - More of an art that a science.
I will not deny that science has its place in bodybuilding, all the drugs we use to day we have science to thank for. It is a useful tool that I believe should be part of your arsenal, however obsessing over studies proved to be fruitless for me and others that I witnessed doing the same thing. What I have learned about using steroids related drugs is it is how they come about in the body to effect it which produces the gains that I was looking for. This comes from trial an error in yourself. A set dose or "stack" will work well for one and not as well for another, some drugs your will tolerate, some you wont. You need to find what works in you and put it together with the other drugs that work in combination to achieve your goals. I have often taken 6-10 different steroids and other drugs simultaneously to achieve a certain look, however I do admit I have learned to do this with less over the years.
One thing that I have witnessed over the years is the patterns that develop amongst people. I have seen people get in great condition with nothing more than deca and test, however you will find that for most it is a particular group of drugs that you will rely on to bring about condition and it will be another group that bring about greater gains in size. That does not mean to say you can not mix things up and find something that works well for you or a measure that allows you to make steady gains and remain in good condition. II would say there are few people I have seen that can bring about a solid sizable look whilst consuming solely test, deca and d.bol.
I will post more in replies shortly.
Alien8ed
Before I get started I want to clarify a few details. I am not a competitive bodybuilding, I am not a doctor, a scientist or any other alleged expert. Everything that I am going to talk about is based on my sole experience of using steroids and related drugs in a non-competitive bodybuilding format. I am not going to post pictures or pretend that I am the best bodybuilder in the world, nor will I pretend to be an "expert" or guru. I simply want to discuss things that I have found out over the years and that will hopefully help some of you to save time and achieve what you want. I have a wealth of experience under my belt and believe that the knowledge I possess will be of benefit to some, if not many. The information I will supply will be about use will be focuses about general and bodybuilding in general. It will be based on what I have done and guided others to do to achieve their gains. It will not be about contest prep or the finer details of competitive bodybuilding, more so a generalisation of what I have used to develop in size and condition with a realistic and affordable approach, whilst keeping health paramount.
Over the years I have taught myself how to correct problems in my own body and that of others through diet and supplementing vitamins. I am not a qualified nutritionist, however I can give you no solid methods that have helped me and many others with ailments and share with you my what I believe to be solid information that is easy to follow to ensure you give yourself the best chance of impeccable health. What I will talk about comes from years of making mistakes and learning through trial, error and education in myself and that of others. I have a good range of experience and I believe that some of what I say will be of to benefit most of you at some point. You are more than welcome not to take anything of what I have to say onboard or even mock it, however I hope you read my words and interact in the post and share your views and knowledge, especially the more experienced lifters so that the younger generation can benefit.
The main areas I would like to focus on is use, health and diet as I believe these are the most important, but I will touch on other issues that are related. I am not going to justify the science or get into arguments over what is proven and what is not, these are my beliefs, they are educated and may serve to help you. I will not be discussing sources, where to buy or anything like that, so please do not PM and ask me. I have been on the forum scene for some time
This information will not be in any particular order, I will just be posting my thoughts on different subjects over the weeks to come and bouncing back and forth between topics. Some posts will be more general, some however will be more in-depth. I hope you enjoy what I have to read.
Over Obsession - Training
Luckily this was a lesson learned young. In the early years I used to obsess about training. I thought the more I focused on it and the harder I trained the quicker and better I would develop. How I was wrong! It often held me back as for every piece of information out there there is something contradictory that would confuse me and leave me in limbo. The gains only started to really come strong when I through all that crap out the window and focused on putting together drugs in my body through trial and error. Funnily enough, I actually made my best gains, with the exception of using such things as growth hormone by actually training around twice a week of which the body parts where spread over around a ten day period. Overall for condition and well being, I have found that 3 days a week is optimal for myself with a 5-6 break every couple of months. Anything more is just a waste of my time, joints and patience. I have found gains are more about what I take and my condition is more about what I take and what I eat. Training is required obviously, however I have maintained my weight and condition for lengthy periods training one, sometimes twice a week. Most of these training sessions last 20-30 minutes, occasionally longer if I am tired or if I have been chatting. I have found that training your muscles well comes from experience, it is not something you learn in a video or in the words of text, it is more about learning from over training and learning to step back what you need to do to stimulate the muscle. For me, once the muscle is stimulated, I move onto the next body part or leave. I do the least possible to achieve this. The years of training my energy levels and my joints into the ground so I could fool myself into thinking I was going to get bigger are well and truly gone. Often taking a step back is required to progress forward.
Unrealistic Expectations - The lies that lead to them
Bodybuilding is full of the sick and twisted. It is not an activity where practitioners freely offer good advice, they like to keep secrets and talk lies as more often than not bodybuilders are an insecure breed. Many people will mislead you with what they actually take and do to prevent you advancing as well as you could. Some will mislead you to make money from you (often to cover their expensive habits), however many are selfish individuals and/or inexperienced individuals who paraphrase bull shit wives tails and give bogus advice to try to explain your short comings, all so they can have you believe that they are superior to you in some way. Often only what is superior to these people is the quality of products of what they have in their arsenal and how they put them together. These sorts of people are rife, especially in places where money is involved such as magazines, bodybuilding conventions, supplement shops, internet forums etc. If someone is set to financially gain from something, be wary of their advice.
This leads me on to realistic expectations. Do not seek the natural route and expect the gains of steroid users, do not use steroids and expect that you will achieve the same look of an experienced growth hormone user, do not believe that you can obtain insulin related gains without using insulin, do not expect low doses to produce the same results of higher doses and most of all do not let yourself be fooled into thinking that supplements can achieve the results of pharmaceuticals. The route of a body builder should be to better yourself, do not focus on others. You will have constant dissatisfaction and a bitter taste in your mouth if you fuel yourself on becoming someone else. Size and condition can all be improved, however you individual genetics dictate how all this is put together, if you have a weak chest genetically and strive for the Arnold type chest, you will only make yourself miserable as you will keep coming up short. I will always advocate building the biggest, strongest, leanest you. Critics will always call what you have, everyone's views are different, however the only one that should matter is yours.
Chemical Enhancement - More of an art that a science.
I will not deny that science has its place in bodybuilding, all the drugs we use to day we have science to thank for. It is a useful tool that I believe should be part of your arsenal, however obsessing over studies proved to be fruitless for me and others that I witnessed doing the same thing. What I have learned about using steroids related drugs is it is how they come about in the body to effect it which produces the gains that I was looking for. This comes from trial an error in yourself. A set dose or "stack" will work well for one and not as well for another, some drugs your will tolerate, some you wont. You need to find what works in you and put it together with the other drugs that work in combination to achieve your goals. I have often taken 6-10 different steroids and other drugs simultaneously to achieve a certain look, however I do admit I have learned to do this with less over the years.
One thing that I have witnessed over the years is the patterns that develop amongst people. I have seen people get in great condition with nothing more than deca and test, however you will find that for most it is a particular group of drugs that you will rely on to bring about condition and it will be another group that bring about greater gains in size. That does not mean to say you can not mix things up and find something that works well for you or a measure that allows you to make steady gains and remain in good condition. II would say there are few people I have seen that can bring about a solid sizable look whilst consuming solely test, deca and d.bol.
I will post more in replies shortly.
Alien8ed