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whats better winstrol or anavar for fat loss

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trying to lose some fat for the summer, get that 6 pack, whats better anavar or winstrol?
I KNOW steroids not for bodyfat loss but I still want it :)
 
Diet is the best steroid for fat loss, i know this isnt what you want to hear. But the juice will mainly maintain muscle mass while dieting, it wont strip fat.


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Diet is the best steroid for fat loss, i know this isnt what you want to hear. But the juice will mainly maintain muscle mass while dieting, it wont strip fat.


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This is true to an extent. Test will help you drop BF and there is tons of research that will back this statement.

But like super said, please do not use steroids to "get a 6-pack" if you can't achieve one without gear, you should not have one. Gotta get it naturally and through diet!


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Yup.. Straight test can give you some great results..

I also think a great option is a sarms1 triple stack. Now this stack is designed to cut fat and works perfect as a bridge into a cycle to continue gains.

But the diet by far, is the most important.

What are your stats?
 
This is true to an extent. Test will help you drop BF and there is tons of research that will back this statement.

But like super said, please do not use steroids to "get a 6-pack" if you can't achieve one without gear, you should not have one. Gotta get it naturally and through diet!


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Totally agree.. It took me forever to get a six pack naturally, but now that it's there.. it's easier to maintain.. except when bulking ;)

Test is best bro. I think by today's standards and newbies.. it's probably the most underrated. The more lean mass you put on, the more your body is going to burn fat.
 
Steroids aren't fat burners, but if you want to know what gives you the hardest, most vascular, and leanest look of the two, Winstrol gets my vote hands down
 
GW is good from what I hear.. haven't used it. If you are curious, there are plenty of logs... One being done now by M_T Pockets
 
Steroids don't aid in fat loss.


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Yes they do, testosterone specifically by causing adipose cells to become insulin resistant while increasing insulin sensitivity in muscle cells. You know, pretty much the same mechanism which determines how fat someone is naturally, their insulin sensitivity or lack their of.

With all the studies showing steroids do aid in fat loss even without exercise I cannot believe this is still a debate.

I suppose losing more abdominal fat in 6 weeks on test than I had in a year without is just coincidence then?
 
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yes testosterone most definitely does aid fatloss and hormone manipulation can be a big help and factor in fatloss... granted your diet is on par, as always diet will determine everything.
 
I suppose losing more abdominal fat in 6 weeks on test than I had in a year without is just coincidence then?

same here it was blatantly obvious for me with sky high test levels and proper diet the fat just melts off. Not so at all for me when doing the same thing naturally.
 
Yes they do, testosterone specifically by causing adipose cells to become insulin resistant while increasing insulin sensitivity in muscle cells. You know, pretty much the same mechanism which determines how fat someone is naturally, their insulin sensitivity or lack their of.

With all the studies showing steroids do aid in fat loss even without exercise I cannot believe this is still a debate.

I suppose losing more abdominal fat in 6 weeks on test than I had in a year without is just coincidence then?

I disagree totally. What you are saying true when backed up with a strict diet and proper excercise

This is same phylosohpy of people thinking they will inject steroids and get buff. Its ridiculous. And just not true.

Case and point I have a friend who is scripted for trt dosage of 200mg a week. Of course he doesn't follow this protocol because he is a stubborn fuck who has no clue but he is still my friend. Anyway, he buys test in large quantities and does anywhere from 500-750 mg per week of cypionate.

He doesn't workout. And he eats so horribly I can't even watch mostly Hugh carb high fat diet with no care for shit. He is like 245# and I would say at least 40% bf.

Now, I ask you. By your theory shudnt he be a ripped beast with 6% bf? Hell no is the answer.

Steroids are a tool. If you don't know how to use the tool its a waste and won't do anything for you.

This of course is only my opinion. But my friend is living proof that test does not aid in fat loss as he is only getting fatter and using a cycle sized dose of test.

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I have said this before. Saying that steroids dont burn fat is just like saying that steroids dont build muscle. We know the second part of that statement is BULLSHIT! Why do you think I take them? Yes I have to go to the gym.....BUT I GET REWARDED 10 FOLD!!! The same with fat loss. Of course i have to eat right......BUT TREN RIPS ME UP WAYYYY MORE THAN IF I ATE CLEAN AND JUST TOOK GW. Sorry...but that is a fact!!
 
I have said this before. Saying that steroids dont burn fat is just like saying that steroids dont build muscle. We know the second part of that statement is BULLSHIT! Why do you think I take them? Yes I have to go to the gym.....BUT I GET REWARDED 10 FOLD!!! The same with fat loss. Of course i have to eat right......BUT TREN RIPS ME UP WAYYYY MORE THAN IF I ATE CLEAN AND JUST TOOK GW. Sorry...but that is a fact!!

Yes. Because you eat right and train hard. I bet you money. Unless you pumped yourself with 2500mg a week of shit, and just sat there you wouldn't drop any body fat. Maybe a tiny bit. But in total no.

However I do agree tren is amazing and dries you out. But, not just by magic you have to put the time in and it aids in rewarding you. That's all I'm saying.

KRAZIEONE
 
I disagree totally. What you are saying true when backed up with a strict diet and proper excercise

This is same phylosohpy of people thinking they will inject steroids and get buff. Its ridiculous. And just not true.

Case and point I have a friend who is scripted for trt dosage of 200mg a week. Of course he doesn't follow this protocol because he is a stubborn fuck who has no clue but he is still my friend. Anyway, he buys test in large quantities and does anywhere from 500-750 mg per week of cypionate.

He doesn't workout. And he eats so horribly I can't even watch mostly Hugh carb high fat diet with no care for shit. He is like 245# and I would say at least 40% bf.

Now, I ask you. By your theory shudnt he be a ripped beast with 6% bf? Hell no is the answer.

Steroids are a tool. If you don't know how to use the tool its a waste and won't do anything for you.

This of course is only my opinion. But my friend is living proof that test does not aid in fat loss as he is only getting fatter and using a cycle sized dose of test.

KRAZIEONE

Obviously if you eat like crap its not going to make a difference---I mean after you hit 25-30% fat, who can really tell the difference,. However, he is still LESS fat than he would be otherwise
 
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