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I was having a conversation with one about overall diet and training and just supps and lil bit about hormones and I must say that most of the bros that post here on evo sound a lot smarter than this guys. I mean he was really trying to string together some concepts he had studied for his certificate and it sounded OK to anybody who doesn't know better. The bros here on evo just read effortlessly smart like you bros seems to know a wide array of topics and discuss them daily. Personal trainers seem more like meatheads looking for a way to make a living in the gym, which is an OK thing I guess for unmotivated fatfuks that need an expensive training partner to motivate them. That is 99% of the gymgoers now I think.
There are a lot of FANTASTIC personal trainers, and there are a lot who don't know the difference between a squat and a bench press. The problem with personal trainers is that the certification required for most gyms is a weekend course.
You have trainers who have no background and just take the weekend course, and then you have trainers who have trained for 20+ years and only took the course so they had the certificate required to be insured.
Do your research when shopping for a personal trainer. Always ask for credentials, experience etc. A book can only teach you so much. The best personal trainers will have been grinding away at the gym for years and have a lot of real world experience.
You have trainers who have no background and just take the weekend course, and then you have trainers who have trained for 20+ years and only took the course so they had the certificate required to be insured.
Do your research when shopping for a personal trainer. Always ask for credentials, experience etc. A book can only teach you so much. The best personal trainers will have been grinding away at the gym for years and have a lot of real world experience.
It's no different than any profession...there are good and bad. You just have to find a good one.
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I agree with this.
And like muskate said above....some just have a weekend course. Their mom told them they needed a job and it was an easy, semi professional, quick way to earn a few bucks and live in the gym.
I have ment good trainers.
Actually my gym has one that is very worth while. He honestly loves what he does and really spends the time with his clients. Not like some you give every client the same routine because let's be honest.....more then half of them aren't going to stick with it.
I would not make it so general. For instance, I am a personal trainer too, but as you can see - here I am discussing all sorts of topics. I guess that you were just unlucky to meet those trainers. I am sure that one day you will stumble upon a proper trainer who will be able to teach and help you much better.
these forums are a major tool in this game. the knowledge made available and networking we do daily on here makes the average evo member way smarter then the average personal trainer.. especially when it comes to the use of these compounds.
a lot of guys don't know these forums exist or they don't bother to spend the time on them to gain and share knowledge. hence they stay 'stupid' as you say.. but I view it as more ignorance.
also I agree with whats been said above. you have to find a good one and you won't find them at a gym that pays a few bucks over minimum wage on average. go hire someone like George farah and pay up the ass and you will get a good one that way lol.
a lot of guys don't know these forums exist or they don't bother to spend the time on them to gain and share knowledge. hence they stay 'stupid' as you say.. but I view it as more ignorance.
also I agree with whats been said above. you have to find a good one and you won't find them at a gym that pays a few bucks over minimum wage on average. go hire someone like George farah and pay up the ass and you will get a good one that way lol.
Career personal trainer here. I work at a gym. I've trained elderly pro-bono if they cannot afford me. When's the last time you've gotten an 82 year old man off of opiates and walking without a cane? This business is unfortunately a sales based position and not an expertise based position. I left a $70000 a year pharmaceutical production job to train full-time and make only $30000 a year. Advising guys with body image issues on how to drug themselves with androgens so they can soothe their fragile self image seems like a pretty shallow endeavor, so I find little interest in it.
I will admit many of my peers are barely competent at best. However some of us who make a career of this spend hours researching, problem solving, and field testing training systems. Even low skilled trainers serve a purpose. Somebody's got to teach kindergarten. Most people need external accountability to feel motivated to exercise and even a lame trainer provides that.
I will admit many of my peers are barely competent at best. However some of us who make a career of this spend hours researching, problem solving, and field testing training systems. Even low skilled trainers serve a purpose. Somebody's got to teach kindergarten. Most people need external accountability to feel motivated to exercise and even a lame trainer provides that.
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great personal trainers at these gyms don't make money, it is great salesman that make money. when you sign up at a gym usually they offer a free training session. if you take that offer the PT's first priority is not to help you, it is to get you to come to him more after that.
also MOST people who sign up to the gym quit after a month or two or quit going. most members clock in once a week at the most.
Great reply bro!
I would not lump all personal trainers into one bucket, as has been said there are good and bad in every field. It really has to do with the requirements of the gyms you are frequenting. Having a top list of certs required, continued Education as a requirement and consistent workshops on different modalities and the basics and complexities,of,program design is a must for any reputable fitness club.
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