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I believe @Liquid Gold Labs will be trying to help wildcat in this situation out of his own kindness - may be other things happening, Wildcat has been a great vendor for sometime who I have dealt with in the past with no issues.
Suspended until further notice - do not interact
Very fair statement.
I am just disappointed at how wildcat left the EVO family hanging.
Well done stepping up to help @Liquid Gold Labs
Yes hopefully vendor is ok and safe. Nearly 1 month no response or product. Can understand the suspension,
Brother like I have said before you tell your clients when you take a break you be 100 percent transparent no guessing games and you don't take money and don't deliver regardless of the previous orders you are only as good as your last order.
Been around far longer than them also and it's gold. Advice
You are only. As good as your last order
I absolutely agree with you on this brother, there is nothing honourable about this particular situation.
From the optics and evidence presented In front of us yes, it looks like an exit scam - but the community know wildcat quite well, and if he wanted to exit scam he could take a lot more then $600 - exit scamming is not congruent with the wildcat we all know, and I'm sure many Aussie members of the EVO family can agree with us on this one - something isn't adding up here.
Wildcat has been asset to the community over the years and whilst this instance of behaviour is unacceptable, if context is provided on his behalf the community may see this in a different light.
We did reach out to @Zezima27 well before the 24 hours mark of when his suspension was to start
We offered a 20 percent bonus to the original 10 vials making it 12, so are a little disappointed that nothing was said in regards to this - by the same token we did tell him that will be sending his order out with no strings attached, so nothing against him at all, as he was put in a situation he never should have been and we are very empathetic to this.
Regardless of how this plays out now we will always keep true to our word and @Zezima27 will be made whole.
Nothing but love and respect for you @Eddie Haskell you have provided fair warning and followed through doing your due diligence - full transparency on your end and respect your decision always.
Just wish this didn't have to end up in the suspension of such a well loved member of the EVO family - because as said previously we can vouch thoroughly for his character as not only a vender but a person.
Very kind hearted and caring individual.
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it's unfortunate, but customers must be taken care of this was not the first instance of wildcat not responding but i think the 3rd in 2 weeks if he was having issues he should of refunded the money immediately
I’m not disputing there isn’t an issue here.
I replied to your comment .. use approved sources for fuck sake - like claiming to this bloke it’s all his fault and he a dumbass or something.
Well he had ordered from him previously and those who have been here longer know wildcat wasn’t someone you would think there would be an issue.
This doesn’t look like an exit scam to me.
It wouldn’t be an exit scam - I have known wildcat for a little while and his a good bloke. He would’ve most likely just been going through shit. It does happen and we should give him the benefit of the doubt
Fully agree with this. Obviously things can change and I don’t know wildcat personally but I’ve spoken to him a fair bit in the past and an exit scam doesn’t add up for me..
Face value, he’s been up there with one of the most genuine vendors I’ve dealt with and would take time out of his day to have genuine chats and offer advice on gear and gym without wanting you to spend money at the end of it.
I’m sure he has given away well in excess of the amount that he would have gained over the last few weeks if it was an exit scam as freebies also so doesn’t make sense
Understand the suspension but I hope if he comes back and proves he is properly back on board he can be reinstated. Also hope he is doing well and nothing has hit the fan for him
You are over reading into what I said... No one called anyone a dumbass
Its not good when any vendor ups and disappears in any way for vendors or for clients. Still your responsibility as a vendor to let clients know. My position on this doesn't change!
With all due respect @AE1079 and @Trenhead3cc, to the buyers who sent money and got no packages, it’s a scam.
If a vendor takes money and doesn’t ship, it’s a scam, purposefully or not.
If a vendor goes MIA, lies multiple times about shipments, keeps collecting money and not shipping while lying, then goes MIA, it looks like a scam.
We can mince words and call it ‘exit scam’ or ‘personal problems scam’, in the end it’s a scam to the end user.
Exactly
it’s up to the vendor to do their job.
I agree with the fact that if someone doesn’t get the product after paying in full - by definition is a scam agreed. I think I’m probably seeing the good in wildcat before as he has done solids and alotnfor the community, just a shame to see.
Yes agreed - I would be pissed myself if I didn’t get what I paid for. @Liquid Gold Labs will foot the bill on this one as a kind gestureExactly
@Liquid Gold Labs has been an amazing vendor in the EVO Aussie family. Trusted and honest, and he came forward to help Wildcat customers, big respect.Yes agreed - I would be pissed myself if I didn’t get what I paid for. @Liquid Gold Labs will foot the bill on this one as a kind gesture
Good work @Liquid Gold Labs stepping up the plate. That's why I personally recommend @Liquid Gold Labs
Sad thing is , a lot of vendors owe wildcat big time .
Hes helped out so many people behind the scenes .
He even gave away a whole shipment of raws to one vendor to help out with an issue they had .
I talk to him often , hes not doing well at the moment .
I don’t know whats happened here with this particular sale , but it’s fucked how someone can be labeled a scammer juat like that .
Hes helped out so many people behind the scenes .
He even gave away a whole shipment of raws to one vendor to help out with an issue they had .
I talk to him often , hes not doing well at the moment .
I don’t know whats happened here with this particular sale , but it’s fucked how someone can be labeled a scammer juat like that .
I’m sure wildcat is a great guy personally. Maybe the best.
However, reality is Wildcat took money for products, strung customers along then disappeared. Didn’t ship, didn’t return the money, didn’t reply to customers. And this isn’t the first time he had complaints like this.
Since you talk to him often, you should tell him to refund the customers he took money from and didn’t ship their product.
if he wasn't in a position to fulfill the orders, he shouldn't of taken them. ill say this about any lab, the punishment for taking money needs to be consistent, whether the lab has been on evo for 6 months or 5 years. fair is fair
you wouldn't want me to take $500 of your hard earned right @Dirt
lucky @Liquid Gold Labs has him covered
I fully agree @R&Dpharma.
Furthermore, we shouldn’t confuse personal feelings and professional responsibility here. A lot of personal discussions I see in this thread about how great wildcat is/was.
He might be an amazing person on a personal level, no doubt, but his business aka his lab scammed EVO family members. Wildcat took money for product and ran, this is called exit scamming.
Thank you @Liquid Gold Labs for taking care of this, but you shouldn’t have to do this. Wildcat should have shipped what he promised and not exit scammed. Or if he couldn’t ship product, he should have refunded all EVO family members he took money from.
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