winstrol cycle tips

[donttouchmywaeve]

Hello,

26 y/o, 180 lbs, 5'7 and training for about 4 years. This would be my third cycle

I have winstrol on hand and test e. Also have arimidex, Hcg, nolva and cliomid.

Want some suggestions as to what to combine with this. I want to get just a bit more cut mainly while gaining some lean mass (but I guess this is not my focus). I am about 12% bf right now. I have tried Tren once and had to finish it abruptly because of the side effects, so I guess tren is out of the question. what compound would you suggest?

 

[Fit-PharmD]

What you have on hand sounds like a decent cycle as is. Test and winnie will produce lean gains as long as you dose your AI appropriately. You can run the test for 12 weeks at 500mg per week and run the winnie at 30-50mg/day for the first 4 weeks. Any longer regarding the winstrol and the side effects can become burdonsome. Winnie likes to lower your HDL immensely, so the longer you are on it the lower your HDL gets. Some will say winnie "dries out your joints" but like any side effect you cannot possibly predict which ones will occur and which ones won't. I have used winnie and from my experience I can say it is a solid anabolic. In conjuntion with test you will see upwards of 15lbs added to your frame. That is of course if you are training and eating properly.

You can always add cmpds, but you would have to be more specific about your goals before I could recommend anything else.

 

[donttouchmywaeve]

What you have on hand sounds like a decent cycle as is. Test and winnie will produce lean gains as long as you dose your AI appropriately. You can run the test for 12 weeks at 500mg per week and run the winnie at 30-50mg/day for the first 4 weeks. Any longer regarding the winstrol and the side effects can become burdonsome. Winnie likes to lower your HDL immensely, so the longer you are on it the lower your HDL gets. Some will say winnie "dries out your joints" but like any side effect you cannot possibly predict which ones will occur and which ones won't. I have used winnie and from my experience I can say it is a solid anabolic. In conjuntion with test you will see upwards of 15lbs added to your frame. That is of course if you are training and eating properly.

You can always add cmpds, but you would have to be more specific about your goals before I could recommend anything else.

Yeah this was my original plan. I was gonna go a simple cutting cycle after a long bulk off-cycle (I have a very hard time holding on to muscle while cutting), but I thought I might go full throttle and go for a body recomp. I just want to get rid of the stubborn fat Im holding onto and grow lean from their.

 

[stevesmi]

if you don't want bad sides then don't use winny either

winny is nasty. it destroys your hair, it wrecks your lipids, destroys joints, and is liver toxic

people think winny doesn't have sides cause it doesn't aromatize..

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Just run what you have on hand and you will be fine. I would throw the HCG in the garbage through because it has no use.

Run your test at 500mg per week and winny at 50mg per day for the last 6 weeks.

The key will be running a caloric deficit every single day. You want to get your body fat down a bit for the first 6 weeks or you wont notice much from the winny. Also make sure you are running N2Guard because winny is liver toxic.

For PCT follow this: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

 

[muskate]

Just run what you have on hand and you will be fine. I would throw the HCG in the garbage through because it has no use.

Run your test at 500mg per week and winny at 50mg per day for the last 6 weeks.

The key will be running a caloric deficit every single day. You want to get your body fat down a bit for the first 6 weeks or you wont notice much from the winny. Also make sure you are running N2Guard because winny is liver toxic.

For PCT follow this: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

@masonic bodybuilder gave you some really good advice. I agrees with him 100% on the HCG -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erous-part-2-a-51145.html?highlight=dangerous

I would also add cardarine into your cycle. The single best supplement you can take for fat loss is a PPAR up regulator like cardarine or SR9009 -> https://www.evolutionary.org/cardarine/

The nicest thing about cardarine and sr9009 is that they are not stimulants or hormones so they won't effect sleep, raise cortisol levels or anything like that. It'll cause a huge boost in fat loss with no side effects.

Here's what I recommend:

Weeks 1 - 12
testosterone e or cyp 500mg/week (inject 250mg twice per week)
aromasin 12.5mg every other day <- very important to prevent against estrogen related side effects like gyno and water retention.
cardarine 20mg/day

Weeks 7 - 12
Winstrol 50mg/day
n2guard 7 capsules/day <- a good liver aid supplement since winstrol is a liver toxic oral steroid

After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

One last tip - winstrol causes really bad joint pain in most users. If you start to experience joint pain, start taking 6-10g of fish oil per day. This will help lubricate your joints and reduce inflammation and pain in the area.