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Underground #9 – Geneza Pharma Summer Cutting Cycle



In this podcast, Big Ricky V Rock and Steve Smi bring you an underground podcast on cutting down using steroids. They propose cycles and discuss them so you won't want to miss this if you are into the beach look.

Oxandrolone/Anavar + Winstrol stand-alone stack


Rick starts the show off with an oral-only cycle he likes to use for cutting down. He likes the Geneza Pharma Winstrol which is the Stan10's, and he likes the GP Oxan, which is the Geneza Oxandrolone.

Winstrol or Stanozolol is an anabolic steroid used to get lean and hard, it's mainly used as an oral during cutting cycles to lose body fat. It's as variant of Dihydrotestosterone (DHT), so you can expect similar fat loss benefits as you would with any other DHT derivative steroid. Read more...

He views this as the ultimate cutting stack for anyone who wants to look their very best aesthetically because it makes you look dry and hard. He likes to do a 50/50 stack where 50% is Winstrol and 50% Oxandrolone/Anavar. So in this example, if you want to do 50mgs Winstrol then you do 50mgs Anavar so they are both equal. No matter what you choose, he wants you to use N2guard and make sure you run it 4-6 weeks and then come off the cycle 2-3 weeks to give the liver a break. During this time, drink a lot of water, take your liver support, and eat clean. Then you can jump back on the stack for another 4-6 weeks depending on how you feel, before you come off entirely for a few months.

By doing this strategy, he says you can stretch the cycle out without trashing your liver in the process.

A patient and mild cutter

Steve presents a mild and patient cycle first, which involves lower doses of steroids. He likes the GP Geneza Pharma Testosterone cypionate or enanthate because they are very smooth injections and he says you want to run them at a low dose of 100-125mgs a week. The reason he says he keeps the testosterone low is to prevent an increase in appetite and water retention. He also says if you run a higher amount of testosterone you run the risk of carb cravings, which will prevent you from cutting down effectively.

Geneza Pharma

He then recommends adding Geneza Pharma GP Primobolan because it is a trusted brand. Steve says Primobolan is the hardest injectable steroid to find because it is faked so often so you must use Geneza. He also says that usually sources will sell you Primobolan, which is Deca Durabolin, because it is much cheaper that way so always pick the right brand.

Bulking season is about to begin for many bros; as a result, you can see the increase in posts asking which compound is the better choice: nandrolone phenylpropionate (npp) or nandrolone decanoate (deca durabolin). Read more...

He likes Primobolan at around 500mg per week, because you can cut down on calories and carbs while on it without having bad side effects, and you can even fast while taking them with no problems.

The 3rd steroid in this stack is kicking it off with some Geneza Pharma Tbol Turinabol at around 50mg a day because it is great for cutting. After all, it doesn't cause appetite or water retention.

The entire cycle should be 10-12 weeks, and you should be patient and eat properly. His final tip is don't run this stack if you are over 20% body fat. This is for guys who are already under 13% who want to shred up.

Summer cutter stack


The next cycle proposed by Rick is great for a summer stack if you want that sexy beach look.

Bulking is one of the most sought-after goals among gym rats and bodybuilders. Anabolic steroids are a great way to boost your muscle mass and they work incredibly well. Read more..

GP Prima 100, which is Primobolan from the Geneza Pharma brand, along with Methyl1-Testosterone. The modification of the Methyl1-testosterone makes it more bioavailable so it can be taken orally. Rick says it's one of the strongest orals you can take, and what's cool about it is that it is very anabolic, but doesn't convert to estrogen so no water retention. He recommends 20-40mgs a day of it and be aware it is liver toxic.

Primobolan (primo), chemical name Methenolone, is by far the most popular injectable anabolic androgenic steroid (AAS) for cutting cycles. The only steroid that's more popular in cutting cycles is trenbolone. Read more..

The strategy Rick recommends for this cycle is to run 200-600mgs of Primobolan a few weeks ahead of the Methyl1-Test. When you start the Methyl1-test, run it for only 4 weeks then come off but keep going with the Primo, then you can go back on the oral for a few weeks again if your liver is okay. Make sure to use the N2guard and N2generate.

Aggressive cutting stack

Deca Durabolin

Steve then talks about a very strong and aggressive stack for more advanced users which has more side effects but can transform your body big time.

He says that some guys react extremely well to Trenbolone and some don't. So he recommends using Trenbolone Acetate from Geneza Pharma which he says is a very high-quality brand and is a short ester. He says you can inject it every 1-3 days and Acetate is great cause its in your system quick and out quick so you can be flexible. He likes the dosage of 200-400mgs a week in total.

The next steroid he likes here is Masteron Propionate because it is a DHT derivative. After all, it stacks well with Trenbolone cause of its low side effects and its hardening benefits. Masteron is great for showing off the cuts in your muscles. He likes 400-600mgs a week in total.

The 3rd steroid he likes here is Anavar to finish things off, which is called a finisher. In this example, you would use it for the final 4-6 weeks of the cycle at around 50mgs a day.

He says if you react well to Tren you will love this cycle and get a body you have dreamed of.

Final cutting tips

Rick says you need to be in a caloric deficit to lose weight and would rather you work on your diet instead of taking fat-burning drugs like Clenbuterol. He says steroids help protect your lean muscle mass while cutting down which is why they work great for this purpose.


Steve chimes in and reminds people if you crash your calories your body will also burn fewer calories too so in the short run you will lose weight cutting calories hard, but long run you won't since your body adjusts. This is why actors and bodybuilders eat a lot of calories then cut them way back and cut up. But he warns this strategy may not be the best idea for a normal person to fluctuate their weight up and down like this. So Steve recommends you focus on food quality, exercise 1 hour a day, follow time restricted eating, and use fasted cardio to your advantage if you want to shred up.


Forums on our forums? read on:

Put on some extra mass during my current bulk and then cut down around mid May untill july/august, using the aid of an oral cycle. Read more...

I've just started my first cycle of Anavar and am seeking to use it to put on a couple of lean mass Kgs. Read more...

Will there be any difference if I take orally the injectable winstrol, or the effectiveness will be different? If I take the injectable orally Read more..

I had a question about GP geneza pharma anavar oxandrolone. you hear so many stories about the stuff being faked and overpriced. Read more..

N2guard is a complete cycle support product designed to combat the negative health issues associated with cycling and AAS use. Read more..


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Lev Butlerov holds a Masters Degree in Biology, he is NASM Certified, ISSA Certified, The National Council on Strength & Fitness (NCSF) certified and is currently working on his American Council on Exercise (ACE) certificate. From Lev: I love bodybuilding and the biology, chemistry of the industry. It's my hobby and my love. I have done multiple bodybuilding shows, 2 in Germany in the past 5 years. I hope everyone enjoys my articles. In 2021 (going into 2022, 2023) I will be working on my PhD thesis in physiotherapy and biochemistry, I hope to have some of the bits published here.

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