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Intro
Steve is joined by Da Mobster in another episode of Evolutionary.org Hardcore 2.0. In this episode #5, they show you how to run Sustanon along with Deca Durabolin to get bulked up. They bring you some of the secrets they have learned over the years on this amazing stack. This is the podcast to listen to if you want to get the most out of your next bulking run!
Bulking with Euro Pharmacies
The guys start by explaining why Euro Pharmacies is one of their favorite brands in the world. Steve says they are very solid, and he recommends them to his clients for a reason. They have injectables that are clean, smooth, lab-tested, and verified by our forums.
Mobster says that Euro Pharmacies have certificates of analysis on their products and those are very important to him because it is something that is very expensive to do and shows they care about putting out a quality product. These are products produced by actual scientists and doctors. You won't get that assurance from your local steroid dealer at the gym.
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Bulking with Sustanon
Steve starts the segment by going over the 2 Sustanon options that Euro Pharmacies has.
They have the normal 250mg/ml solution of 4 esters that makes up Sustanon250. They are:
Testosterone Propionate 30mgs
Testosterone PhenylPropionate 60mgs
Testosterone Isocaproate 60mgs
Testosterone Decanoate 100mgs
What is interesting about Euro Pharmacies is they came up with a 500mgs/ml Sustanon option. Each ML will contain double the amount of the above, for example instead of 100mgs of Testosterone Decanoate, it contains 200mgs, and so on. This is pretty cool because it means that you can inject just 1CC per week and get 500mgs of Testosterone in your system just from that 1ML.
Sustanon has historically given a lot of guys post-injection pain (PIP), but Euro Pharmacies has done a great job of making this product much smoother than it should be.
No matter which Sustanon you decide to go with, it's a great anabolic steroid option for those who want to bulk, because it is great at increasing protein synthesis and increasing appetite. Users report gaining 10-20 pounds on a single cycle of it over 10-12 weeks.
You can also expect a boost in libido, mood, strength, and aggression when working out.
Side effects are dependent on how much you use. Estrogenic side effects are very possible especially if you run it at a moderate to high dosage, so it's important to use an aromatase inhibitor such as Aromasin or Arimidex. Some other side effects include high blood pressure, rapid weight gain, organ strain, and insomnia.
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— Evolutionary Podcast (@EvolutionaryPo) November 2, 2022
Bulking with Deca Durabolin
Euro Pharmacies has an excellent Nandrolone decanoate (Deca Durabolin) which is 250mgs/ml. This means for every CC you inject you are getting 250mgs of the hormone.
Deca Durabolin is a long ester steroid, which is why it has been so popular over the past 50 years since people didn't like injecting it very often. Steve considers Deca like Testosterone with an alteration to make it less androgenic and less estrogenic. This means it will cause much less water retention, which is why guys in the 70s through 90s loved using Deca since anti-estrogen drugs were not around or known about yet. This means they could run high doses of Deca and get a lot of the benefits of Testosterone without developing gyno or getting water retention.
Steve and Mobster have issues with those who claim that Deca is a dangerous or high side-effect steroid, because it just isn't true, and the risks are overblown. They say ask anyone who has been around the steroid grind for the past 40 years and they will say they love Deca and don't understand the hate towards it.
The bottom line is Deca is a tremendous steroid to add to a bulking cycle because it boosts mood, helps build quality muscle mass, increases protein synthesis, helps with workout recovery, and causes appetite to skyrocket.
One of the side effects of Deca that you will read about is the dreaded 'Deca dick" and Steve believes this is overblown. He feels that erection problems have been occurring in a lot of men over the past 25 years due to changes in what we eat, specifically all the refined and processed junk we consume daily. He also blames our contaminated water, polluted oceans, modern stressors, poor heart health/organ health, and other environmental factors for why it seems any man over the age of 30 requires dick drugs just to get an erection.
How to stack both steroids for bulking
Steve goes over how he likes to stack Sustanon and Deca.
He says you can simply start with 250mgs of each per week for 12 weeks and that is a simple cycle. You can also run them both 500mgs per week if you want to become more aggressive with your dosing, or you can choose to run 1 or the other at 500mgs and the other at 250mgs. He prefers to run the Deca higher so that there is less water retention on the cycle and he can let it do most of the work.
He also recommends using Aromasin or Arimidex to keep your estrogen controlled. The guys warn that you don't want estrogen becoming too high or too low on a cycle. His tip for dealing with any fears of erection issues on Deca, is to stack in a light DHT derivative such as Proviron at 25mgs a day, which will help offset any DHN Dihydronandrolone changes in the body and keep your libido stronger. In this example, he considers Proviron an ancillary as part of this stack.
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— Evolutionary Podcast (@EvolutionaryPo) January 22, 2021
Final tips
The guys finish off the podcast by going over some final tips.
- Take advantage of the high appetite you have on this cycle by eating a lot of high-quality foods.
- Do not dirty bulk on this cycle by eating junk food.
- Prepare quality food ahead of time and store it for easy access all week.
- Lift big to get big, and stick to more compound lifts vs. isolation.
- Work the legs hard, you need a strong base to get bigger.
Forums
Forums on our forums? read on:
Can you tell me guys what is the best bulking cycle ? ( informative ) . Best Stacks, and duration. Read More........
Guys I wanted to know which one is better for intermediate like me who have been a gear use before. Can natural bulking be better since while natural bulking Read More........
is this a good combination for cutting after bulking with test alone? my other question is if I should take hcg on this cycle Read More........
I am worried about bloating from deca durabolin. If I use 600mgs of deca per week, how bad will the bloat be Read More........
Which one is suggested for 12 weeks test cycle. 500mg/week. i want as low side effects as possible. Read More........
References
- Bulking for stress urinary incontinence in men: A systematic review
- Sustanon induces dose-independent hypertrophy and satellite cell proliferation in slow oxidative fibers of avian skeletal muscle
- Exuberant local tissue reaction to intramuscular injection of nandrolone decanoate (Deca-Durabolin)
- Heterocyclic steroids: Efficient routes for annulation of pentacyclic steroidal pyrimidines
- Markers of mesterolone abuse in sulfate fraction for doping control in human urine