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The SARMS triple stack protocol

BROUGHT TO YOU BY DYLAN GEMELLI

YOUR RESIDENT SARMS EXPERT

The SARMS triple stack protocolToday I will explain to you all how to properly run a SARMS triple stack. You will often see me recommending this stack to many as the optimal bridge to run in between your cycles. This stack is efficient in many particular instances and circumstances aside from being ran as a bridge, especially when it comes to fat loss, lean muscle gain and novice users. The stack can also be used in the midst of a person cruising or on full out TRT or HRT. The beauty of this stack and SARMS in general is their versatility in how they can be used to accommodate different wants and goals. I am a strong proponent with the use of the triple stack because it allows a user to add quality and clean amounts of lean muscle while still being to able to drop body fat. This will be dictated by a user having a strict diet and training regiment but this stack enhances the probability of such results occurring. The protocol for SARMS is very dose and time specific and needs to be ran accordingly. SARMS, like any other product, need to be ran properly and responsibly and not abused in any fashion. Exceeding certain dosages and lengths can result in negative side effects, diminished results and future problems. If ran properly and accordingly, they can provide excellent results and an overall wonderful feel of well being. There are many users that often report feeling just as good, if not better, on SARMS use as they do when on cycle. This stack will provide users with an increase in strength, lean muscle and endurance. The cycle needs to be run with the proper ancillaries and mini pct to ensure maximum results and full recovery. Often times, I recommend the use of albuterol with this cycle, dependent upon the goal. I will explain how to dose and incorporate this as well.

THE TRIPLE STACK SETUP

This is the typical layout that I recommend for many triple stack users.

1-8 osta 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.

1-8 s4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.

1-8 gw 10-20 mg day... split doses 12 hours apart

1-8 hcgenerate

OPTIONAL: 3-8 albuterol 12-18 mg day

mini pct 9-12

unleashed/post cycle combo

 

It also should be known that anyone who has gyno sensitivity or had problems in the past, that the use of an aromatase inhibitor should be utilized. The chances of this issue are not high, but it has been reported as a possible side effect with ostarine use. I would recommend a lighter AI protocol than normal to start than would normally be used. If one is using aromasin or arimidex, I would recommend starting the dosage at every three days as opposed to general every other day use. If you find that you need more, then it would be fine to switch it every other day use and adjust it as needed.


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Ostarine (MK-2866):

Ostarine can be ran safely and effectively between 8-12 weeks. One SHOULD NOT exceed 25 mg day of ostarine use. Exceeding 25 mg can lead to significant negative effects. This is when the reports of suppression and gyno seem to occur. These are possible problems at a lower dose as well but many of the problems occur when doses are abused. Ostarine is only needed to be taken once a day, in the morning. It has a long half life, thus making split dosages unnecessary. Ostarine will provide a nice increase in strength and lean mass gain. It will also provide healing benefits that will be of high benefit for many users. The dosing is very simple and if followed correctly, side effects should be minimal to none. Ostarine is very clean in terms of gains and provides a multitude of benefits.

S4 (Andarine):

S4 is often known as the strongest SARM but comes with the most side effect problems. S4 use should never exceed 8 weeks of use. The most common side effect associated with S4 is the vision issues that it can cause. S4 can bind to the receptors in the eyes, causing a yellow tint to be seen by users. It can cause a user to have a very hard time adjusting from lightness to darkness and can have a very negative effect on night vision. It is impossible to say how bad these effects can be, when they can occur and at what dosage because it is distinctively different from user to user. I have developed a method on how to properly dose S4 for you all which I am including in this article. The dosing protocol is VERY delicate and needs to be taken seriously. The half life of S4 is only 4-6 hours so the doses are split in two each day. Since the half life is so short, many users that develop the visions side effects will run S4 for 5 days and then take 2 days off to help combat the problem. This is a method that helps to complete a cycle of S4 but it is nice to avoid this as much as possible to get the most out of S4. Another side effect that comes with S4 is that it is the most suppressive when it comes to SARMS. The suppression is nowhere near that of a regular anabolic cycle but it is still apparent and needs to be known. S4 will provide an effect that would be comparable to winstrol in the AAS world in terms of muscle hardening and a more aesthetic look. It will provide strength and very lean muscle as well. The gains and effects are very noticeable with S4, especially for users that are already very lean. S4 needs to be taken very seriously and dosed delicately to be ran safely and effectively. Below is my method of how to properly dose S4.

HOW TO PROPERLY DOSE S4

THE DYLAN GEMELLI METHOD

Okay everyone... I wanted to write this up to make sure that everyone knows how to properly dose S4... As most of you know, the common side effect associated with S4 is the night vision issue. This results in one of two or both of these issues: A yellow tint associated with vision at night and/or a hard time adjusting to darkness or light... Normally the adjustment period is very quick but can effect some much worse than others. Basically, s4 can bind to the receptor in the eye causing these problems. UNDERSTAND that it is IMPOSSIBLE to know if this will happen to you and at what dosage this may happen... 50 mg is the general starting spot for dosing. Some people get the vision issue immediately even at this moderate dose. Some are able to get up to 100 mg a day with very minimal problems... There is no way to tell what category you fall into until you try... The vision issue is not permanent and the half life on s4 is very short (around 4-6 hours) Some people are forced to go to dosing s4 for 5 days and then taking 2 off because they cannot handle the vision issue... I try to do everything I possibly can to avoid this because I do not want to miss any days of usage...

So, it is important to understand how to dose s4 properly. Some people are content at staying at 50 mg for an entire 8 week cycle. Others, want to increase the dosage but there is a very specific protocol to follow to ensure that vision issues are kept to a minimum...

I compare this protocol to fighting Mike Tyson on Mike Tyson's punchout. If anyone has ever played the game they will appreciate this comparison. When you fight Mike Tyson, the first [1:20] seconds of round 1, if you are hit just one time you are knocked down... This is the danger zone... Once you get past that first [1:20] you are much safer but you still must proceed with caution because the fcker is still dangerous...

This is the same with S4... You must go 2 weeks at 50 mg... If you get through the 2 weeks with minimal to no vision issues then you past the danger zone... You are safe then to increase your dosage but must proceed with caution... After two weeks you can bump to 60 mg... Now you are testing the waters... You must now stay on 60 mg between 10-14 days... I would say 12 is the safest bet... Then it is okay to increase again to 70 mg if you are able to... I feel like between 70 and 80 mg is the sweet spot however there is benefit up to 100 mg... You should continue to follow protocol of 10-14 days on each 10 mg incremental increase... By following this protocol, you could get up to 100 mg for at least the last week... You should NEVER GO ANY HIGHER THAN 100 mg... As I mentioned, the sweet spot is between 70-80 mg... Every increase needs to be with extreme caution and if the vision issues begin, you know where your boundary is... Some of us are luckier than others in terms of receptor binding... DO NOT BE IN A RUSH to increase dosage... Following this protocol will be the safest and MOST EFFECTIVE way of dosing s4.

GW-501516:

Technically, GW is not a SARM but is more “in the class” of SARMS. It is often utilized in conjunction with SARMS and is more in line with this grouping of chemicals. It is a key component to the triple stack. GW can safely and effectively be ran 8-12 weeks. The optimal dosage of GW is 10-20 mg day. The higher the dose, the more pronounced effects of endurance and fat loss will occur. GW provides users with an extreme increase in endurance and can have a pronounced effect in fat loss. The beauty of GW is that it is not catabolic, so if macros are taken in properly, it can still add muscle, while helping lose fat. GW is extremely effective and is used by many endurance athletes. The effects that it provides are very profound and noticeable very quickly. The half life of GW is longer but I always recommend a split dosage with 12 hours in between each dose. The side effects with GW are highly debatable. There are studies out that show it has led to cancer in rats while other studies so a completely adverse effect. It is very hard to determine the accuracies in these studies. Other than this, there are no seen side effects with it. Of course, you do not want to abuse dosage and length of usage and you should stay in the range that was provided above on amount and length. GW is a favorite amongst many and provides many benefits to users.

SUPPORTS AND MINI PCT:

I always recommend that a user take HcGenerate on every SARMS cycle. SARMS can cause suppression, especially with extended usage, thus it is imperative to keep suppression to a minimum. HcGenerate will not only keep suppression low but it will also keep the libido high and test levels higher throughout. It will make the transition into pct and recovery much easier as well. This is the main support that I recommend using with the stack.

A 3 week mini PCT is required with SARMS cycles. It is never a bad idea to run it 4 weeks instead but it is not necessary. A SERM is not required in this PCT but it can be used if a user wants. I would not recommend depending a SERM only PCT if one decides to use it. My recommendation is the Unleashed/Post cycle combo for the mini PCT. Another nice recovery option would be Phytoserms ran as a stand alone. Either one of these will work as a mini PCT and lead to a quick and effective recovery.

The use of albuterol in this stack is OPTIONAL and is normally recommended to users who want to lose extra fat or want an extra boost in endurance.

FINAL THOUGHTS:

I hope that this article has explained how to not only properly run a successful SARMS stack but also given you an outlook on the possible results. It is my intention to fully educate you on the positives and negatives of the stack and how to safely and effectively run it. I am always here to help in any way and am easily contacted on Evolutionary.org with any questions that you may have. Please always be safe and ask questions if you do not understand what you are doing. Work hard, stay motivated and continue to go after your goals!

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Dylan Gemelli is a Certified personal trainer and Coach. He has over 15 years of experience in bodybuilding, fitness, training and coaching. He's worked with multiple movie stars, IFBB pros and fitness celebs on their training and diet. He's helped set up cycles for the greatest in our industry. He holds the following qualifications: NASM Personal Trainer NASM Corrective Exercise Specialist AFAA Group Fitness NASM Fitness Nutrition Specialist NASM Weight Loss Specialist

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    This is a good stack, a perfect combination of testosterone boosters and SARMS.

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    I was reading that GW and D-Bol were a good combination. As an amateur I would stick to your recommended dose on the GW as for the Dianabol I am taking 20mg. Do you concur?
    Target 175 10% current 198 18%
    28 years of lifting experience with no PED use. I waited until the inevitable was going to happen – my test disappeared! Did Deca after spinal injury and it literally helped me back on my feet.
    Was a Bill Philips follower until he sold out and then I started to read more about the theories,practices and books by Charles Poliquin. Always followed the science and SARMS are an interesting addition that I had never heard of before getting emailed. Anyone like Dylan who knows what they are talking about with respect to SARMS please write. I am sure that I am not the only one looking for guidance. Thank you

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    Actually, the way S-4 affects vision is what scares the hell out of me! I would like to have an idea about HOW LONG those effects take to fade out completely after ingestion of S-4 is terminated. Days? Weeks? Months?…

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    Hello Dylan, I wish to ask a question about something you wrote in the article above:

    >Another side effect that comes with S4 is that
    >it is the most suppressive when it comes to SARMS.
    >The suppression is nowhere near that of a regular
    >anabolic cycle but it is still apparent and needs
    >to be known.

    What does “suppressive” mean in that context?
    “Suppression” of/towards what?

    Thank you! 😉

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      Suppression is the lowering of your natural testosterone production. Andarine s4 has some suppression but nothing like steroids.

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    When you talk about albuterol are you talking about the nebulizer or the albuterol proair. Albuterol proair is only 90mcg per puff and above you say 10-12 mg so that’s a huge difference. Could you clarify?

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      I’m talking about the pure research albuterol. Usually comes in 10mg doses.

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    dylan
    appreciate the in depth write up. I have just started the sarms cutting stack. i know s4 can cause some suppression but since i am not stacking it with Ostarine is it much of a concern? To be sure i do plan on supporting with HCGenerate throught the cycle.

    What would u recommend for PCT?

    cycle plans:
    8 weeks
    s4 @ 50mg /day
    GW @ 15 mg day
    support: hcgenerate

    PCT 4 weeks

    (note, i am a long course triathletefocused on strengthen up, shed body fat, recovery..)

    many thanks

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      Actually Andarine S4 is a bit more suppressive than ostarine (ostraine isn’t suppressive to any serious degree at the right dose).

      If you run a full andarine cycle, I would suggest this for pct:

      Week 1-3 clomid 25/25/25
      week 1-4 hcgenerate es
      week 3-6 dspark
      week 3-6 ostarine 12.5mgs ED

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    Dylan,

    What would you recommended for an eight week fat loss SARM program. Please include any required test booster and PCT. Thanks!

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      1-8 Cardarine gw 20mgs/ED
      1-8 Andarine s4 25mgs->50mgs ED ramp
      1-8 HCGenerate 3-6caps/ED
      1-8 N2Guard 5caps/ED

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    Does triple stack suppress you enough to need an AI during cycle? Also do you think clomid and nolva will help with recovery after?

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      And how does liquidex compare to actual prescription arimidex?

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        liquidex is same as regular arimidex

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      You should use an AI during cycle, aromasin 10mgs EOD.

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    Hi,

    I started Triple Stack 5 days ago. Been trying to get N2Guard but they’ve been out of stock. Could you please recommend another product that I can take during my cycle that’s reputable?

    Lastely, I’m new to Sarms and want the best approach. I’ve read many conflicting pieces of advice regarding timing and thought I’d ask you. I’ve spent a lot of time hunting through your articles and videos…Thought it would be best to simply reach out to you.

    5:00AM I’ve been taking full dose of GW; 20mg 30 min prior to fasted cardio as well as S4; 50mg (split dose every 12 hr) and MK 12.5mg.
    At 5:30am, cardio then weight train at 10:30am.
    Should I be taking one dose of GW prior to my cardio (as I have been) for best effect or split the dose before cardio and then again before training?
    Also, is it fine to be taking the S4 and MK as I have been , at 5:00AM, or is it best to wait until my training session?

    I really appreciate your advice and help. I’m sure you’ve answered these questions on a repetitive basis.

    Thank you again in advance !

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      You should use n2guard, so wait to get it.
      Your dose should be closer to cardio like 30min before for the cardarine (GW).

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    Just finished week 4 of Lgd 4033 and S4 taking as directed no increase of dose and following a strict eating plan of 6 meals a day. I can definitely see a difference in body comp and strength. I use to compete in the npc level qualified for nationals but never turn pro. I grew up next to the border and had access to all the goodies but I am 37 and have a family and don’t want the side effects so I have turned to sarms and the effect is similar without the side effects. I’m think of combining Lgd 4033, S4 and Gw501516. I was wondering what effects as far fat burning and not having to take a thermogenic if you are taking Gw501516? I am new to sarms and so far I am pretty pumped with the effects and no side effects. I’m 235 right now and maintaining the weight but getting leaner

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      You should use it closer to 6 weeks before you check results. I suggest stenabolic if you want more fat burning then cardarine alone. Thought combining stenabolic and cardarine is probably best for fat loss with ostabolic (ostarine) stacked.

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    I am doing a 12 week cycle of Ostarine + Cardarine to get come back from an injury and get stronger. What would the recommended PCT be? HCGenerate is 200 bucks there is no way there isn’t anything similar that is not a SERM.

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