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Introduction
Welcome to Evolutionary.org Hardcore 2.0 episode #58. In this episode, Steve and Mobster discuss the most appropriate needle size for beginners-Injection guide with Euro Pharmacies. They have put together some incredible topics which answer many questions you have been asking. Whether you are completely new to injecting, or if you have been using injectables for a year, 5 years, or 20 years, there are still things you can learn in this podcast.
- Introduction
- Euro Pharma injectables
- Beginners vs pros?
- The different needle sizes (gauge and length)
- Intramuscular (IM) vs subcutaneously(sub-q)
- Issues with floaters caused by using too big of a pin
- Issues with scar tissue/ rotating sites
- Buying them online/needle exchanges and disposing of
- Forums
- References
Euro Pharma injectables
Euro Pharmacies has some of the best injectable steroids you will find anywhere, and they are safe to use. One of the things Steve says he loves about Euro Pharma is how smooth their products are. He gives the example of other brands he has used in the past, where the injectables were like pinning motor oil, and he was on the ground in pain after each injection. Then afterward, he had to deal with post-injection pain (PIP), which made the entire muscle area where he injected the steroid sore for several days. This not only made it hard for him to sleep but also made it hard for him to work out. Mobster gives another example of bad gear, and says that you should never use low-quality injectables, because of the risk of infection and other problems.
Euro Pharmacies also makes it easy because they have many different options on their product list. Whether you want to use short esters, long esters, 15ML or 10ML vials, blends, or anything else, they have it available.
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Beginners vs pros?
Steve and Mobster address the different approaches to using Euro Pharmacies injectables and how you can get the most out of your steroid cycle.
Steve starts by giving you both sides of the debate on whether you should use short vs. long esters as a beginner. On one hand, by using short esters you can have the gear peaking in your system much faster and also out of your system faster too. The basis of this is you take the half-life of the steroid ester and multiply that by 4-5X to give you a time to peak, and time to out of your system so you can start recovering. Based on this, a beginner might find it better to use short esters, because it allows them to run a cycle under 10 weeks and recover much easier.
On the flip side, you can also say longer esters are better for beginners, because now you don't have to inject as often, and you can inject more volume to cut way down on injecting.
Mobster says for a beginner he recommends not overcomplicating things when it comes to how many injectables to run. A professional will run many different steroids to achieve a certain synergy since they must keep up with their peers. But as a beginner, you don't need to go that route, so he recommends 1 injectable to start. You can run an oral steroid alongside it, since Euro Pharmacies also has amazing oral options like dbol, tbol, Anavar, and Winstrol.
Some good beginner injectable steroids are:
Testosterone: Euro Pharma has many testosterone options, including short esters, long esters, blends, etc.
Primobolan: Euro Pharma Primo is smooth to inject and of the highest quality.
Nandrolones: Deca and NPP are mild options that are low in estrogenic and androgenic activity.
Equipoise: Another mild option that works great for a beginner.
The different needle sizes (gauge and length)
Steve and Mobster go over the different needle sizes. Steve simplifies things by saying the ranges of needles that are most common are from 18G (the thickest) to 31G (the thinnest). An 18G needle will be used for drawing the oil, while 29 and 31G needles are insulin pins and should only be used to inject tiny amounts of oils or use in peptides.
Steve says with most people using a 25G needle will work so that should be the vast majority of needles you order. As far as the length of the needle you will want to get a 1" size in most situations, although some people like 1.5" who have more body fat.
Intramuscular (IM) vs subcutaneously(sub-q)
The IM vs. subQ debate has been going on for years. The truth is even some TRT doctors are now having their clients inject subQ, but Steve says this is because it's a small amount of volume. If you do inject oils subQ it needs to be a small amount at a time, and you must rotate, or you open yourself up to scar tissue or abscess issues.
For the vast majority of injecting oil-based steroids from Euro Pharma, you will want to use the Intramuscular method (IM) which goes a full 1 inch into the skin targetting a muscle.
Issues with floaters caused by using too big of a pin
Steve has used low-quality brands before and they will cut corners and use cheap vials/rubbers and he has experienced where drawing the oil has caused the rubber to break up. This will cause tiny floaters to be in the gear. Luckily, this issue is rare with Euro Pharma since they use quality stoppers, however, it is still possible if you are being reckless so it's important to be careful when drawing the oil.
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Issues with scar tissue/ rotating sites
It is important to not pin the same 1 or 2 muscles over and over. Steve and Mobster recommend finding at least 4-6 spots that you are comfortable injecting and making sure you continuously rotate.
By failing to rotate, you open yourself up to scar tissue problems in the future.
Buying them online/needle exchanges and disposing of
The guys finish the show by recommending you purchase your needles/syringes online via a medical supply shop. Some states or countries have needle exchange programs so check into that as well.
As far as disposing of the needles, it is important to twist the needle off, and dispose of it properly in a sharps container.
Forums
Forums on our forums? read on:
Sorry if this is a strange question however It's my first cycle so likely overly paranoid. While I was injecting today and the syringe was fully inserted - I slipped and lost grip Read More........
Anyone have an experience of having a lump/swelling after testosterone injection 1ml/ week (sustanon or enanthate)? No heat but only swelling which is very Read More.........
I am gonna do a simple primo + test stack Primobolan 400mgs a week Testosterone enantahte 200mgs a week Read More...........
I’m in the middle of a recomp/cutting stack 220 pounds and 6 foot 25 Read More........
I’m excited to try equipoise for the first time 500mgs a week is gonna be my base dose so that is set Read More........
References
- Medicinal Use of Testosterone and Related Steroids Revisited
- Competition, testosterone, and adult neurobehavioral plasticity
- Detection and quantitation of 3 alpha-hydroxy-1-methylen-5 alpha-androstan-17-one, the major urinary metabolite of methenolone acetate (Primobolan) by isotope dilution--mass spectrometry
- Nandrolone Decanoate: Use, Abuse and Side Effects
- Nandrolone: a multi-faceted doping agent