Testing available for peptides in NZ?

[GymEnjoyer]

Currently there is a rather limited market for peptides in NZ. While we do have a fantastic trusted source for AAS, that being @AuStarLabs, (and they will have a hopefully growing range of peptides available in the future) we are fairly limited in terms of options. Those being either A: buy from the limited number of questionable domestic suppliers/resellers at a drastic mark up for most stuff (like $125 per 25iu of hgh with no complete packs available etc.) Or order stuff from suppliers like china, which is significantly cheaper but obviously comes with its own risks. But all other risks aside, the biggest one is going to be if you are actually getting what you have paid for, or not. So what I would like to know, or hear, is from any people who have done either, what the best options available to us here in nz for getting peptides tested is? The reality is that untill we have a reliable/approved source for those who want to take peptides, they have to be ordering from either of the options I mentioned, so if we could create some awareness of what we have available for testing I think that would be super helpful!

 

[LevButlerov]

Currently there is a rather limited market for peptides in NZ. While we do have a fantastic trusted source for AAS, that being @AuStarLabs, (and they will have a hopefully growing range of peptides available in the future) we are fairly limited in terms of options. Those being either A: buy from the limited number of questionable domestic suppliers/resellers at a drastic mark up for most stuff (like $125 per 25iu of hgh with no complete packs available etc.) Or order stuff from suppliers like china, which is significantly cheaper but obviously comes with its own risks. But all other risks aside, the biggest one is going to be if you are actually getting what you have paid for, or not. So what I would like to know, or hear, is from any people who have done either, what the best options available to us here in nz for getting peptides tested is? The reality is that untill we have a reliable/approved source for those who want to take peptides, they have to be ordering from either of the options I mentioned, so if we could create some awareness of what we have available for testing I think that would be super helpful!

I wouldn't buy from any questionable suppliers @GymEnjoyer i know Team AUStarlabs @AuStarLabs has less peptide choices but his are tested, I would go and wait for his before doing anything tbh
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/austarlabs-introduction-touchdowns-feedback.107449/
@KrisPTofu @kiwibogan @Liddz72

 

[GymEnjoyer]

The only way I have been able to do it is join testing groups for a specific batch of product where users from the EU have sent samples to Janoshik.

Ah okay so that's still relying on others to get it sorted. Theres the nz drug testing place but apparantly they dpnt do glp1's or other peptides etc.

 

[GymEnjoyer]

I wouldn't buy from any questionable suppliers @GymEnjoyer i know Team AUStarlabs @AuStarLabs has less peptide choices but his are tested, I would go and wait for his before doing anything tbh
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/austarlabs-introduction-touchdowns-feedback.107449/
@KrisPTofu @kiwibogan @Liddz72

I definitely agree with you but there's still a few things that i dont think it's 100% they will be getting or not. I know hgh is a possibility but as far as I know it hasn't been confirmed for sure like reta and hcg has been. hgh is probably the main thing we have very limited options for so need to either have a way to test other sources or hope austarlabs does end up offering it..

 

[HarleyGuy]

Currently there is a rather limited market for peptides in NZ. While we do have a fantastic trusted source for AAS, that being @AuStarLabs, (and they will have a hopefully growing range of peptides available in the future) we are fairly limited in terms of options. Those being either A: buy from the limited number of questionable domestic suppliers/resellers at a drastic mark up for most stuff (like $125 per 25iu of hgh with no complete packs available etc.) Or order stuff from suppliers like china, which is significantly cheaper but obviously comes with its own risks. But all other risks aside, the biggest one is going to be if you are actually getting what you have paid for, or not. So what I would like to know, or hear, is from any people who have done either, what the best options available to us here in nz for getting peptides tested is? The reality is that untill we have a reliable/approved source for those who want to take peptides, they have to be ordering from either of the options I mentioned, so if we could create some awareness of what we have available for testing I think that would be super helpful!

Stick with @AuStarLabs or DM them to ask about new stock plans or restock of peptides. They test everything they supply so you don't have to.

You can also check out @US-pharmacies who ships worldwide and you can shop here https://us-pharmacies.to/

 

[LevButlerov]

I definitely agree with you but there's still a few things that i dont think it's 100% they will be getting or not. I know hgh is a possibility but as far as I know it hasn't been confirmed for sure like reta and hcg has been. hgh is probably the main thing we have very limited options for so need to either have a way to test other sources or hope austarlabs does end up offering it..

Im hesitant to user or recommend non approved suppliers after all the issues I've seen, you can understand why I'm like this right?

 

[GymEnjoyer]

Im hesitant to user or recommend non approved suppliers after all the issues I've seen, you can understand why I'm like this right?

Definitely can! And not attempting to get any recomended either, just ways to avoid any potential issues by being able to test stuff it they are used etc. Even being able to test stuff that is from suppliers on here could be good from time to time.

 

[LevButlerov]

The only way I have been able to do it is join testing groups for a specific batch of product where users from the EU have sent samples to Janoshik.

yes but these groups are ran by the same Chinese scammers too you know that right? @jackbrown32

 

[LevButlerov]

Definitely can! And not attempting to get any recomended either, just ways to avoid any potential issues by being able to test stuff it they are used etc. Even being able to test stuff that is from suppliers on here could be good from time to time.

I think we are best talking to Team AUStarlabs and getting him to stock more tbh @AuStarLabs

 

[GymEnjoyer]

Stick with @AuStarLabs or DM them to ask about new stock plans or restock of peptides. They test everything they supply so you don't have to.

You can also check out @US-pharmacies who ships worldwide and you can shop here https://us-pharmacies.to/

What's their reliability with worldwide shipping like do you know?

 

[GymEnjoyer]

I think we are best talking to Team AUStarlabs and getting him to stock more tbh @AuStarLabs

That would definitely be the preferred solution

 

[LevButlerov]

What's their reliability with worldwide shipping like do you know?

I think US-pharmacies.to does well worldwide but in NZ you need to be concerned about customs thats why we recommend domestics.

 

[US-pharmacies]

It’s always better to use the domestic option — then you have more certainty. But we’re also not afraid of international shipping

Our one-time resend policy applies to everyone although luckily most people don’t need to use it

 

[HarleyGuy]

What's their reliability with worldwide shipping like do you know?

It will 100% make it to customs. If it gets seized US-Pharmacies are one of the very few that will attempt a reship for you. Try them out you'll see it will get there.

 

[GymEnjoyer]

It’s always better to use the domestic option — then you have more certainty. But we’re also not afraid of international shipping

Our one-time resend policy applies to everyone although luckily most people don’t need to use it

Yeah right on definitely sounds like this could the ticket for now! Will most lilely put an order through soon then as hgh stocks are getting low!

 

[GymEnjoyer]

It will 100% make it to customs. If it gets seized US-Pharmacies are one of the very few that will attempt a reship for you. Try them out you'll see it will get there.

Yep definitely sounds like they're worth a shot. Will have to put an order through soon and see how it goes!

 

[matua]

Ah okay so that's still relying on others to get it sorted. Theres the nz drug testing place but apparantly they dpnt do glp1's or other peptides etc.

Yeah can confirm. I took a batch of Reta in to be tested at the Auckland office.
They don't have any peptides in their database, so have nothing to reference it against.
All they could do was confirm that there were no dangerous compounds in there (which is a good start I guess)
They said they were working on updating the database but had no eta when I was talking with them in January

 

[HarleyGuy]

Yep definitely sounds like they're worth a shot. Will have to put an order through soon and see how it goes!

Keep us posted always bro, we'll be here.

 

[GymEnjoyer]

Yeah can confirm. I took a batch of Reta in to be tested at the Auckland office.
They don't have any peptides in their database, so have nothing to reference it against.
All they could do was confirm that there were no dangerous compounds in there (which is a good start I guess)
They said they were working on updating the database but had no eta when I was talking with them in January

okay that's something at least you can confirm it's clean stuff, whatever it might actually be...

 

[GymEnjoyer]

Keep us posted always bro, we'll be here.

will do brother as usual thanks for the help!

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah can confirm. I took a batch of Reta in to be tested at the Auckland office.
They don't have any peptides in their database, so have nothing to reference it against.
All they could do was confirm that there were no dangerous compounds in there (which is a good start I guess)
They said they were working on updating the database but had no eta when I was talking with them in January

have you taken any gear for testing? @matua

 

[HarleyGuy]

There are some good ones in the peptide world that are pretty reputable. Group buy types of deals.

Generally speaking nz customs is only an issue for Indian shipments until about a month ago when they had a crackdown. Had my first CN package seized, must have got 20 through previously.

I'd get every single one of those tested as the crap that comes out of China can be very hazardous.

 

[matua]

have you taken any gear for testing? @matua

Haven't had any gear tested, my current order with AuStarLabs will be my first cycle.

 

[LevButlerov]

Haven't had any gear tested, my current order with AuStarLabs will be my first cycle.

Austarlabs @AuStarLabs is a good place to get gear from @matua and what dose you plan? and which gear?

 

[HarleyGuy]

Haven't had any gear tested, my current order with AuStarLabs will be my first cycle.

That's best for your safety to get from @AuStarLabs
Smart move @matua tell us your cycle plans and more about you.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Got to remember that every non Chinese vendor buys from China anyway.

This is a bold categorical statement that is just not true.

Here in Canada we have domestic peptides synthesized, tested, and supplied from within Canada.

It isn't just China that can use the Fmoc method anymore to create peptides.
China continues to typically use the old Boc method which uses toxic chemicals to synthesize their peptides in mass quantities and hence they are potentially toxic and untested as they know that resellers will test them and let China know after the fact if a peptide is contaminated or way off the mark in terms of potency or endotoxins, meanwhile they've already been mass sold to buyers and distributors across the globe.

 

[AraOnTop]

There are some good ones in the peptide world that are pretty reputable. Group buy types of deals.

Generally speaking nz customs is only an issue for Indian shipments until about a month ago when they had a crackdown. Had my first CN package seized, must have got 20 through previously.

Do you know what medsafe does to those packages? Just the usual letter in the mail and then destroying the vials im guessing? No serious legal repercussions?

 

[AraOnTop]

Ok i see, what makes it seem they don’t flag addresses btw?

Never had a peptide or gear package from china seized so just wondering what happens if it ever happens lol

 

[LevButlerov]

Do you know what medsafe does to those packages? Just the usual letter in the mail and then destroying the vials im guessing? No serious legal repercussions?

are you sending them packs?

 

[HarleyGuy]

Do you know what medsafe does to those packages? Just the usual letter in the mail and then destroying the vials im guessing? No serious legal repercussions?

Definitely no legal follow up, you'll get a letter and they'll use the word "destruction" regarding the contents of the pack.
Your address will then be entered in their system as having had a seized package before. Doesn't mean much really, they can't follow up on everyone who's trying to get a few vials of peptides shipped to themselves nor do they care; it's the big fish they make an effort for only once in a while.

 

[kiwibogan]

There are some good ones in the peptide world that are pretty reputable. Group buy types of deals.

Generally speaking nz customs is only an issue for Indian shipments until about a month ago when they had a crackdown. Had my first CN package seized, must have got 20 through previously.

Similar story here. I was ordering different pills for years without any problem, never order vials though.
Few weeks ago decided to give IndiaMart a go, as they sell exact same stuff I used to get from UK.
My parcel get stopped at NZ border for MedSafe check.
Few day ago received a letter that say importing prescription medicine is under strict control and if I have prescription I need to take this letter to my GP so he could provide MedSafe with all necessary details.

Tbh not sure if its safe to order anything from overseas in a near future

 

[LevButlerov]

Similar story here. I was ordering different pills for years without any problem, never order vials though.
Few weeks ago decided to give IndiaMart a go, as they sell exact same stuff I used to get from UK.
My parcel get stopped at NZ border for MedSafe check.
Few day ago received a letter that say importing prescription medicine is under strict control and if I have prescription I need to take this letter to my GP so he could provide MedSafe with all necessary details.

Tbh not sure if its safe to order anything from overseas in a near future

You should always get peptides from AuStarlabs @AuStarLabs customs terrible in NZ

 

[GymEnjoyer]

You should always get peptides from AuStarlabs @AuStarLabs customs terrible in NZ

Unfortuantely their range is still small. Reta, hcg, bpc 157 and tb500 are all they stock. They are expanding and talking to Rob it does sound like they are planning on getting more based on demand for certain products, but untill then people will be looking elsewhere to get stuff they don't currently stock. I have had some luck with customs, but thats only ever been for small orders for personal use. Anyone trying to get in larger packages is ddfinitely risking it.

 

[LevButlerov]

Unfortuantely their range is still small. Reta, hcg, bpc 157 and tb500 are all they stock. They are expanding and talking to Rob it does sound like they are planning on getting more based on demand for certain products, but untill then people will be looking elsewhere to get stuff they don't currently stock. I have had some luck with customs, but thats only ever been for small orders for personal use. Anyone trying to get in larger packages is ddfinitely risking it.

Give it time let Rob restock first

 

[LevButlerov]

It's just too expensive... $12/mg of reta vs $0.65 or $1 tested imported...

You're risking getting scammed, getting poisoned, getting customs pick up and not supporting EVO family

 

[LevButlerov]

I reckon we need more competition to bring peptide prices down to be comparable to AAS

as far as I know there are very few reliable NZ suppliers