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Introduction
Welcome to Evolutionary.org UG Supplements #28- How to run an effective PCT with supplement help. In this episode, the guys discuss what PCT is, the best supplements for PCT, quality control in the supplement industry, and why Hcgenerate is the best on the market.
What is PCT?
Steve starts this podcast by explaining that PCT stands for "Post Cycle Therapy". To understand what recovery means Steve explains what happens to your HPTA on cycle including the functions of the pituitary glands, Leydig cells, and other aspects of the reproductive system. He then talks about how important understanding hormonal levels such as LH, FSH, Estrogen, and Testosterone can dictate your success in a PCT; and give you an indicator of your progress. He was able to trace back PCT origins to the late 80s, and especially the 90s, when steroid gurus started to come up with ideas to help recovery.
Mobster says that he remembers magazines from the 80s, like MuscleMedia where they would sit around and talk a lot about their theories on cycling steroids, and he doesn't recall anything about PCT being discussed until the 90's. Steve says Clomid came on the market in the late 60's and Nolvadex came around in the late 70's. So perhaps some bodybuilders knew about them, but it was highly unlikely that they figured out that they could use them. A big reason for this is that they were ignorant of bloodwork and how the HPTA worked. They didn't have access to next-day blood like we do today to try this stuff out.
Back in the post-golden era of bodybuilding guys came up with the strategy of a PCT to help them keep more gains between cycles. Before then bodybuilders would cycle on and cycle off and accept losing a lot of their gains. It was all about timing ahead of shows. An example of this is Arnold would use variation anabolic steroids at certain times of the year including Dianabol in the offseason, and Primobolan ahead of competitions, to better use them to his advantage.
The earliest PCTs involved nolvadex. This was a SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator) that helped block estrogen from feedbacking into the pituitary glands, which would manipulate that gland to start spitting out LH and FSH. This gave a person more of a soft landing when they came off. A few years later Clomid came around, and then when aromatase inhibitors came on the scene guys started to use them to slam estrogen after cycle, with the idea that would help boost Testosterone. When HCG then HMG came guys started to listen to the wrong people and started using those in PCT's which was a severe mistake. Steve explains why these strategies are very outdated, why these drugs and hormones are flawed, and why it is important to use supplementation in PCT; in conjunction with older PCT ideas to get the most results.
Mobster says that you have to weigh feeling good vs. recovering. The PCT protocol that makes you feel elite is not logical, you want to feel normal in PCT.
Best supplements to use in PCT
Zinc- Believe it or not, this mineral is an important supplement to help you produce Testosterone in the first place. If you have no Zinc you have no chance to recover at all.
Fadogia Agrestis- Perhaps the #1 supplement guys take during PCT because it works and has a long history for Testosterone boosting success. It will make your Leydig cells grow bigger even during cycle. Mobster adds some studies.
3,4 Divanil- One of the best supplements out there to bind to SHBG. This will help open up more Free Testosterone at the most crucial time.
Tribulus - This one has been used for a long time to help male hormones rise. It contains saponins which increase DHT and Testosterone which has a domino effect.
Tongkat Ali- Great for energy and muscle building, it has also been shown to help the reproductive system and boost fertility at the time you need it most.
Fenugreek Extract- This one helps with your libido, erections, and other sexual dysfunctions that are likely to occur in PCT. Mobster also reads a study on it.
Boron- A great option to make the whole body run better.
Vitamin E- A great option to help protect muscles at a crucial time when the body wants to get rid of them.
Hcgenerate is a product that contains all these ingredients in 1 formula. It has been used for the past 15 years and is one of the top-selling natural Testosterone boosters on the market. The guys get into why Hcgenerate works so well.
Quality control in the supplement industry
Mobster talks about how the supplement industry works and why you need to be careful and understand the differences between supplement companies. He says in the industry most products are made to a price point which means they are trying to maximize profit while sacrificing quality. This is not good as you are wasting your money and not getting what you want on your cycle. This is why it's important to know what you are taking and buy your supplements from the proper places.
How to run Hcgenerate for PCT
Hcgenerate contains enough in 1 bottle to last you a month when using 5 capsules per day. The most popular way to use it would be splitting up 1 serving in the AM and PM. The 2nd most popular way to use it would be 5 capsules entirely 1-2 hours pre-workout or sex to give you a nice boost that way.
Where to buy N2bm products
N2bm products can be purchased from N2bm.com. N2bm has been around for almost 20 years providing only the most unique and highest-quality supplement products for serious athletes and bodybuilders. They do not have overhead costs like other supplement companies who have to pay for retail space, pay off bodybuilders to endorse the product, display silly marketing tactics, and other nonsense. Instead, any additional profits go straight into improving the formula.
Forums
Forums on our forums? read on:
I’m on oral cycle of winstrol and anavar for 4 weeks. Do I need full pct or mini pct will work Read More..........
I am planning to have testosterone + Deca or testosterone +NPP for 10-12 weeks. As far as I know, I only need clomid for 3-4 weeks for PCT Read More............
My total testosterone levels are low. I would like to get them up higher and I'm looking to use a supplement to see if I can get them to where they Read More.........
if I start using testosterone boosters when I'm really young will it affect my testosterone levels later in life? a friend of mine Read More...........
Trying to figure out what is the best thing to use in post-cycle therapy. there are some cheaper options that GNC that they sell including something called cell assist Read More............
References
- Do "testosterone boosters" really increase serum total testosterone? A systematic review
- Testosterone Imposters: An Analysis of Popular Online Testosterone Boosting Supplements
- Beyond tribulus (Tribulus terrestris L.): The effects of phytotherapics on testosterone, sperm and prostate parameters
- Testosterone Boosting' Supplements Composition and Claims Are not Supported by the Academic Literature
- Safety and Efficacy of Furosap®, a Patented Trigonella foenum-graecum Seed Extract, in Boosting Testosterone Level, Reproductive Health and Mood Alleviation in Male Volunteers
