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krazieone56 said:
True very true. Well I just went and looked at every recipe I have from Winny to test cyp p and e eq DECA etc. They all call for bb. Have I just gotten them from the wrong place or places?

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Just some quick ones...I still have 4 kids to bathe, feed, and put in their cages.

Test E holds easily with 2% BA, zero BB 300mg/ml, Deca is exactly the same Tren Ace 100mg/ml also the same

Cyp will hold easily at 7% BB...

Gotta run, talk tomorrow
 
Well I'm going to have to go thru all these and brew them and remove the bb and log all the processes that would be great to not need bb all the time.

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Kraz hurry up n make me some good shat. My back needs more definition. uploadfromtaptalk1403147173160.webp

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Thanks casca... Hahaha its all good bro just some test e 250... I just pinned it, hopefully my arm doesn't fall off since it's only my 2nd attempt lol
 
Here's a caloboration between me and Bob. Calling it snake venom. I'm actually pretty hooked on it at the moment.

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Kraz told me hell w my doc lol.
But yea I will email you to have you make me some cruise sauce.

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Because a few of us are the ones who came up with it buddy. This is our lounge. Anyone who comes in here better not disrupt our zen calmness!!!

KRAZIEONE
 
It's my home away from home! Like mh said a long time ago c'mon in sit down I'll come around with cold drinks in a bit


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GringoLoco said:
Whelp I got bored tonight and brewed 250ml of Prop @ 100mg/ml, gonna scramble up some eggs and go to bed for a few hours before I gotta get sparring in


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Speaking of the price of brew. Prop is the absolute cheapest, I make a 10ml vial of Test Prop 100mg/ml for just over $3.

Niccce


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krazieone56 said:
True but us said for example 30% mortality for 1g of bb. Is that 1g all at once and 30% died? Because if say, you consume 1g of bb over time will it have the same affect on humans is what I'm asking. Health wise. Continued exposure.

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The study said 1 gram per kilogram of bodyweight. Converted to a 60 kg male that calculates out to a little more than 13 grams of benzyl benzoate at once.

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Superturkey said:
Okay question for oral brewers:

Why use PEG? Why not just use 100% grain alcohol?


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peg will hold the powder in solution and give you much more accurate dosing especially with powders like var that are hard to hold.

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Superturkey said:
Okay question for oral brewers:

Why use PEG? Why not just use 100% grain alcohol?


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Peg is designed to bind substances think about a protein powder that just won't mix into cold water or milk no matter how much you mix it some chems act in a similar matter and peg will solve that issue for you


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bobsyouruncle said:
Peg is designed to bind substances think about a protein powder that just won't mix into cold water or milk no matter how much you mix it some chems act in a similar matter and peg will solve that issue for you


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Right. So can you give me any examples where this would benefit a mix.

I know I mixed up some cialis with grain alcohol and it didnt dissolve even slightly, just sit on the bottom. Probably wouldnt be any different if I had used water.


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Superturkey said:
Right. So can you give me any examples where this would benefit a mix.

I know I mixed up some cialis with grain alcohol and it didnt dissolve even slightly, just sit on the bottom. Probably wouldnt be any different if I had used water.


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I'm sorry but I'm extremely confused on what your fixation with water is, water is a poor suspending agent it can barely hold a protein shake and yet you think it will suspend a hormone. Get water out of your head, its not going to work.

An example of peg 300 being used would be as I said, anavar. Try to suspend it in just grain alcohol, heat it, stir it and you will notice that it doesn't dissolve and it will not hold. Now, try it again while using a mixture of Peg 300 let's say 10ml, and 39 ml of everclear and .5g of var and you'll have a solution in which the var will stay completely suspended and will not fall out and settle at the bottom. This will roughly give you 50 ml of 10mg/ml of anavar solution.

I've had it hold at 20mg/ml by increasing the peg up to 25ml and let me tell you, the taste becomes unbearable, like even a ml will ruin anything you try to mix it with.


Another alternative is Ora sweet and Ora Plus. These are used to create solutions for toddlers, infants, and pets. Same principle as the PEG but a better taste and a much higher price. But you can flavor it to be a sweet cherry taste so if its for personal use and you don't mind making a tasty solution go for it.
 
What's up guys just popping in and listening...I love the idea of brewing your own stuff.so I will sit back and learn from the vets here and if I have any ?? I'll ask thank you!!


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Enjoy the 147 pages. You may go blind. Jk welcome. We are all here to learn and support one another in this amazing process of brewing.

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nsnmatty said:
I'm sorry but I'm extremely confused on what your fixation with water is, water is a poor suspending agent it can barely hold a protein shake and yet you think it will suspend a hormone. Get water out of your head, its not going to work.

An example of peg 300 being used would be as I said, anavar. Try to suspend it in just grain alcohol, heat it, stir it and you will notice that it doesn't dissolve and it will not hold. Now, try it again while using a mixture of Peg 300 let's say 10ml, and 39 ml of everclear and .5g of var and you'll have a solution in which the var will stay completely suspended and will not fall out and settle at the bottom. This will roughly give you 50 ml of 10mg/ml of anavar solution.

I've had it hold at 20mg/ml by increasing the peg up to 25ml and let me tell you, the taste becomes unbearable, like even a ml will ruin anything you try to mix it with.


Another alternative is Ora sweet and Ora Plus. These are used to create solutions for toddlers, infants, and pets. Same principle as the PEG but a better taste and a much higher price. But you can flavor it to be a sweet cherry taste so if its for personal use and you don't mind making a tasty solution go for it.
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I think the confusion is with the misuse of the term "suspension". Too often I read posts of people using the term suspension when they mean "solution".

If it dissolves, it's a solution. If it doesn't and remains "suspended" in the matrix, it's a suspension. The latter is best made with viscous liquids to reduce settling.

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I just did my 2nd batch and to be honest it wasn't that hard... The hardest thing for me wAs making sure everything was clean and sterile, I was really paranoid lol
 
getbig1989 said:
let's say I was ready to make a test e brew would that be easy to construct?


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Yes it would be. You just need a good recipe, the right equipment,some raw powder and the right chems. Clean area to work, patience,and attention to detail..

KRAZIEONE
 
being clean and figuring out how to filter is the biggest thing. Ive done the calking gun trick with a 60cc and watman and also 5cc at a time with watman by hand . wanted to try a vacuum filter some time but haven't needed to lately.
 
krazieone56 said:
Yes it would be. You just need a good recipe, the right equipment,some raw powder and the right chems. Clean area to work, patience,and attention to detail..

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Awesome can some one pm me on what I need for test e @ 300mg equipment and such


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nsnmatty said:
I'm sorry but I'm extremely confused on what your fixation with water is, water is a poor suspending agent it can barely hold a protein shake and yet you think it will suspend a hormone. Get water out of your head, its not going to work.

An example of peg 300 being used would be as I said, anavar. Try to suspend it in just grain alcohol, heat it, stir it and you will notice that it doesn't dissolve and it will not hold. Now, try it again while using a mixture of Peg 300 let's say 10ml, and 39 ml of everclear and .5g of var and you'll have a solution in which the var will stay completely suspended and will not fall out and settle at the bottom. This will roughly give you 50 ml of 10mg/ml of anavar solution.

I've had it hold at 20mg/ml by increasing the peg up to 25ml and let me tell you, the taste becomes unbearable, like even a ml will ruin anything you try to mix it with.


Another alternative is Ora sweet and Ora Plus. These are used to create solutions for toddlers, infants, and pets. Same principle as the PEG but a better taste and a much higher price. But you can flavor it to be a sweet cherry taste so if its for personal use and you don't mind making a tasty solution go for it.
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Okay thanks for the input, but I think you have me confused with somebody else.

I originally asked why not just use grain alcohol? the reference to H20 was regarding a solution of cialis once mixed with 190proof grain alcohol. It doesnt suspend at all. It sits on the bottom until shaken(basically what water would do)

So PEG could possibly suspend a compound like cialis much better than grain alcohol alone?
Thats what I wanted to know.

Flavour doesnt worry me. I made my own MK-677 that is the worst one yet. Shoot and skull something quick!


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Thanks for the replies everyone.

Sterility is a big concern here so maybe someone should put together a sterility guide. I'm personally reading through all of the old pages of this thread to try to see if I missed anything crucial. If I ever get the time I might try to compile a list of info worth remembering from pages 1-150.

Some people here have amazingly thorough sterility methods and will even use complete rooms for this. That's both really impressive and evocative of Dexter from the TV show Dexter, LOL. I personally can't wipe down an entire room, but I can guarantee I'll read through whatever anyone has to say about sterility.
 
Things I've learned from pages 1-25 of this thread:

1. People here used to get raws from China, which makes me feel less weird since I did once too. Maybe they still do, lol.

2. devildog has posted a lot of copy/paste recipes from a credible forum; not from steroidology, which is not regarded as credible

3. 100g is "chump change to customs" (let's hope) and they'd only care if you ordered more than this

4. Sesame oil has a longer shelf life than grapeseed oil, which is supposed to only last 2 years

5. devildog is voting for Rand Paul in 2016

6. Robolics once made a 800mg/ml test E blend and the PIP was so bad that one of them went to the doctor

7. Someone here (forgot who) used viagra as a preworkout and his neighbor checked out his pump

8. This was a good paragraph by bobsyouruncle: "it takes an accurate scale and math you need to have a uniform volume I use 00caps basically you need to fill the exact same volume with both compounds to be used and find the weights of each individual powder that you intend on using and you need to figure out how much of each it will take to get all of your caps filled at the desired dose for example I used viagra and creatine monohydrate two caps of the viagra weighed 1.37g two caps of creatine weighed 1.67g he wanted 50mg viagra caps so you know you are using 5g to make 100 caps so you take your creatine weight and divide it by your viagra weight wich equals 1.2189781 and you multiply 5g by that number which comes to 6.0948905 but we will simplify that down to 6.095 now I have already capped viagra in size 4 caps and they take 127mg stuffed full so you can easily do 10g to 100 pills and get 100 pills at 100me ea so I know a little over 100mg of viagra will fit in a cap so it's safe to assume that 5g of viagra and 6.1g of creatine will fill 100caps completely and all should be dosed at 50mg or damn close "

9. I never thought about the cost of being on TRT and homebrewing kicks the shit out of it.

10. page 27 has a great step-by-step for suspensions: http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/source-talk/homebrewers-lounge-4607-27.html

that's all I can read in one sitting. :)
 
I want to learn how to home brew! I've research it a bunch . But I would like some bros for there opinions on some great reads . Thanks


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jmiyamoto said:
Things I've learned from pages 1-25 of this thread:

1. People here used to get raws from China, which makes me feel less weird since I did once too. Maybe they still do, lol.

2. devildog has posted a lot of copy/paste recipes from a credible forum; not from steroidology, which is not regarded as credible

3. 100g is "chump change to customs" (let's hope) and they'd only care if you ordered more than this

4. Sesame oil has a longer shelf life than grapeseed oil, which is supposed to only last 2 years

5. devildog is voting for Rand Paul in 2016

6. Robolics once made a 800mg/ml test E blend and the PIP was so bad that one of them went to the doctor

7. Someone here (forgot who) used viagra as a preworkout and his neighbor checked out his pump

8. This was a good paragraph by bobsyouruncle: "it takes an accurate scale and math you need to have a uniform volume I use 00caps basically you need to fill the exact same volume with both compounds to be used and find the weights of each individual powder that you intend on using and you need to figure out how much of each it will take to get all of your caps filled at the desired dose for example I used viagra and creatine monohydrate two caps of the viagra weighed 1.37g two caps of creatine weighed 1.67g he wanted 50mg viagra caps so you know you are using 5g to make 100 caps so you take your creatine weight and divide it by your viagra weight wich equals 1.2189781 and you multiply 5g by that number which comes to 6.0948905 but we will simplify that down to 6.095 now I have already capped viagra in size 4 caps and they take 127mg stuffed full so you can easily do 10g to 100 pills and get 100 pills at 100me ea so I know a little over 100mg of viagra will fit in a cap so it's safe to assume that 5g of viagra and 6.1g of creatine will fill 100caps completely and all should be dosed at 50mg or damn close "

9. I never thought about the cost of being on TRT and homebrewing kicks the shit out of it.

10. page 27 has a great step-by-step for suspensions: http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/source-talk/homebrewers-lounge-4607-27.html

that's all I can read in one sitting. :)
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You're doing great bro!

And yes, I do like Rand Paul. Freedom is an important thing to me, and he's all about that.
 
Loadcoil78 said:
My trt cyp is Watson. It's made with cotton seed oil. Why is the GSO preferred?
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I like cotton seed oil. I also like sesame oil. My Watson trt stuff is cotton seed, and my most recent stuff made in India (came from my local pharmacy) is in sesame oil. Nothing at all wrong with GSO. In fact, my next run will be a blend of sesame oil and a certain % of GSO.
 
devildog said:
I like cotton seed oil. I also like sesame oil. My Watson trt stuff is cotton seed, and my most recent stuff made in India (came from my local pharmacy) is in sesame oil. Nothing at all wrong with GSO. In fact, my next run will be a blend of sesame oil and a certain % of GSO.
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The tren I just brewed was 60/40 gso and safflower it's nice and light and very smooth I like that blend a lot the safflower is pretty much clear and when you brew a dark powder in it it comes out looking like most guys test


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devildog said:
I like cotton seed oil. I also like sesame oil. My Watson trt stuff is cotton seed, and my most recent stuff made in India (came from my local pharmacy) is in sesame oil. Nothing at all wrong with GSO. In fact, my next run will be a blend of sesame oil and a certain % of GSO.
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Sorry. I was completely wrong. My most recent rx test cyp is sun pharma, and it's cottonseed oil. Sorry.
.2 ml BB
9.45mg BA
560mg cottonseed oil
 
Ok. So it's all good. Thanks.
This is the first test with cottonseed oil I've ever used. Seems a little thicker but very smooth
 
bobsyouruncle said:
The tren I just brewed was 60/40 gso and safflower it's nice and light and very smooth I like that blend a lot the safflower is pretty much clear and when you brew a dark powder in it it comes out looking like most guys test


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That's a great blend of carrier oils IMO. I'm really liking idea of the blended carrier oils
 
Loadcoil78 said:
Ok. So it's all good. Thanks.
This is the first test with cottonseed oil I've ever used. Seems a little thicker but very smooth
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Watson is made in Portugal believe it or not. Very good stuff! The Sun Pharma from India is also great. The vial/packaging looks like a twin to the old Upjohn Depo Test.
 
bobsyouruncle said:
I honestly don't know why more guys aren't doing it it turns out really well


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It's catching on. Gym labs is doing it, and BWL is also. Shelf life, and smooth injecting stuff. It gets better all the time, and I love seeing that
 
devildog said:
Sorry. I was completely wrong. My most recent rx test cyp is sun pharma, and it's cottonseed oil. Sorry.
.2 ml BB
9.45mg BA
560mg cottonseed oil
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Why is the BB measured in ml's and the other liquids, in mg's?

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