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On a related note, sarms1's gw is not a solution, its a chunky suspension.

My first suggestion, lower the mg/ml add 2:1 alcohol/peg ratio and try from there sure you may have to take more of it but throw it in juice and be done with it. I think try maybe 15 or even 10. I believe I've seen it as a solution at 5mg/ml but that's a lot more volume, it'd be like a breakfast all in itself hahaha
 
nsnmatty said:
On a related note, sarms1's gw is not a solution, its a chunky suspension.

My first suggestion, lower the mg/ml add 2:1 alcohol/peg ratio and try from there sure you may have to take more of it but throw it in juice and be done with it. I think try maybe 15 or even 10. I believe I've seen it as a solution at 5mg/ml but that's a lot more volume, it'd be like a breakfast all in itself hahaha
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Well if I dilute it down any further I'm going to have to store it in an empty fifth bottle or something lol, the amount I already have now is pretty ridiculous
 
krazieone56 said:
Where did u get the sarms raw powder if you don't mind me asking. I didn't even know that was something avail to get

KRAZIEONE
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A Chinese source I stumbled on awhile back. I've used em a few times now and I've been impressed with the quality as far as results go. First time trying liquid solution though, I normally just cap. I'll shoot you a PM in a second.
 
Cipp21 said:
A Chinese source I stumbled on awhile back. I've used em a few times now and I've been impressed with the quality as far as results go. First time trying liquid solution though, I normally just cap. I'll shoot you a PM in a second.
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I've seen a few lists from Chinese suppliers but it just says "Sarms" never really went into detail on what ones....how are their powders for anabolics? Mind dropping me a PM with some details so we can talk more
 
nsnmatty said:
I've seen a few lists from Chinese suppliers but it just says "Sarms" never really went into detail on what ones....how are their powders for anabolics? Mind dropping me a PM with some details so we can talk more
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You usually have to ask them when it comes to particular compounds. PM sent
 
Everclear, 190 proof, is only available in half of the states, in the others 151 everclear is the highest that is available. One can always distill 100 proof up to 190. J

If there is enough interest, I can distill 190-200 proof and offer it in small 16oz bottles.
I have an ethanol distilling perment, this is not shine. J
 
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Biotoxic said:
Everclear, 190 proof, is only available in half of the states, in the others 151 everclear is the highest that is available. One can always distill 100 proof up to 190. J

If there is enough interest, I can distill 190-200 proof and offer it in small 16oz bottles.
I have an ethanol distilling perment, this is not shine. J
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Nice to have a permit. I have the ability to distill as well (Shine and Homebrew), but I had the 151 sitting around for FOREVER because nobody's crazy enough to drink that shit. I think the consensus now is that alcohol alone doesn't work well as a solvent for Sarms.
 
Cipp21 said:
Nice to have a permit. I have the ability to distill as well (Shine and Homebrew), but I had the 151 sitting around for FOREVER because nobody's crazy enough to drink that shit. I think the consensus now is that alcohol alone doesn't work well as a solvent for Sarms.
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I'll take some shine. Lol.

KRAZIEONE
 
krazieone56 said:
Today we shud talk about brewing shine. And beer. Lol

KRAZIEONE
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I could lend a big hand there lol. I've got 5 gallons of apfelwine, 10 gallons of skeeter pee, and another couple of corny kegs filled with some homebrew we've been drinking on all day.
 
All ways happy to break out the copper, this is my fav, home brewers, makes me want to break out the glass ware. Organic chemistry, such a hobby, I am used to doing reactions, I have really got to thinking about the injectables. I enjoy all the discussion, and tips and methods. I am New to the aas world, and I must say that it has helped my medical condition.
 
I prefer shine over just about everything else I like it when my buddy mixes it up hell run some off with different mashes he uses anything he has on hand things like corn,oats,raisins,honey etc. they all taste like shine but there are subtle differences in the finished product that keep things interesting


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bobsyouruncle said:
I prefer shine over just about everything else I like it when my buddy mixes it up hell run some off with different mashes he uses anything he has on hand things like corn,oats,raisins,honey etc. they all taste like shine but there are subtle differences in the finished product that keep things interesting


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It amazing how using something different can effect a flavor profile. I made a mash using maple syrup as my sugar source and that shit came out tasting like nectar of the gods...

I don't distill nearly as much as I homebrew though. Making a solid mead or lager takes much more hard work to get a solid product. Takes months of fermentation and can take years to age. It's all a game of patience
 
I have always enjoyed the art of brewing. It took me a year in university to make a decent stout. And 4 years to get the hang of the rec. drugs. I am digging the aas production concept. I Am process oriented.
 
bobsyouruncle said:
I prefer shine over just about everything else I like it when my buddy mixes it up hell run some off with different mashes he uses anything he has on hand things like corn,oats,raisins,honey etc. they all taste like shine but there are subtle differences in the finished product that keep things interesting


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i would love to try some made with oats and even raisins, sounds really good.
 
I liked mead, and it is a very nice food supplement. It helped the earlier settlers get through tuff times, you could sat that it was like the weight gainers of today. J
 
Biotoxic said:
I liked mead, and it is a very nice food supplement. It helped the earlier settlers get through tuff times, you could sat that it was like the weight gainers of today. J
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Ah mead... Viking drink of the gods! I've got a couple bottles of cherry malomel that have been aging for the past 3 years. Broke one out last thanksgiving, gave everyone a nice buzz. Gotta be careful with the stuff, seems to sneak up on ya quick ;)
 
Finally got all equipment. My lab is now good to go.
First brew is gonna be Test E. For the feel of it. Just gonna make 10ml as a try.. :)
Thanks to all for this amusing thread!!
 
essolion73 said:
Finally got all equipment. My lab is now good to go.
First brew is gonna be Test E. For the feel of it. Just gonna make 10ml as a try.. :)
Thanks to all for this amusing thread!!
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Test E is pretty straightforward, perfect for a first. Enjoy the experience!
 
krazieone56 said:
What all did u get and what formula u going with?

KRAZIEONE
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I'm going for just basic 250mg/ml of test E.
Starting with 10ml just to get the equipment set up allright.
And yes this small amount is filtered with syringe filter .22. I need to try how its done and how it feels.
Got beakers stir rods gloves sterilityswabs cleaningalcohol sterile vials in all sizes and so on. Just bought everything all people recommended except a hotplate. But that one is coming soon too.
Got the raws and are good to go.
Planning on 2%Ba 10%Bb and GSO.
😋
 
What's up with some sources? I'm about to start a tren cycle but lack the test and pct. I've looked up a shit ton and everything leads to jail time haha. But with a family it's not a risk I'm ready to take maybe a few years ago. Any help?
 
Socialblur said:
What's up with some sources? I'm about to start a tren cycle but lack the test and pct. I've looked up a shit ton and everything leads to jail time haha. But with a family it's not a risk I'm ready to take maybe a few years ago. Any help?
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You must be joking, you better weigh the risk and see if the reward is worth it. Or you're a cop and need to GTFO


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Not a cop but, filtering through threads have helped a lot. Way to treat a new member, sorry I'm not as forum inclined as you guys.


Definitely here to make friends not enemies.
 
I have a friend that of course has a friend typical story. But he is using it to cut. I want to form a stack of some sort and bulk. Long story short dude doesn't like new people just as a lot of members of this form ( all in good humor) but I understand and figured I would give it a hopeful shot in the online world. Thing is I'm new to it and keep reading before I inject and think something magical will happen. Just trying to educate myself and then went on to find another source.
 
Capped 330 Size 4 Osta caps today, took around 2 hours but it's better than having it crash in solution like my GW did. First time working with these buggers, boy are they small. Got em dosed at 30mg :)

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Enough caps to basically run an entire year nonstop lol
 
Cipp21 said:
Capped 330 Size 4 Osta caps today, took around 2 hours but it's better than having it crash in solution like my GW did. First time working with these buggers, boy are they small. Got em dosed at 30mg :)

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Enough caps to basically run an entire year nonstop lol
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How long did it take you to cap all of that?
 
Anyone have a injectable var recipe? I found this one but I am hoping to find a water based recipe

2)50ml @ 50mg/ml

2.5 grams Anavar (2.5ml)
2.5ml BA
2.5ml BB
5ml guaiacol
37.5ml Oil



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Sorry there are over 160 pages in this thread and I didn't have time to search them all. Who all do you guys use for supplies? I've been home-brewing for 12 or 13 years now, but I haven't made anything in a while. Need suggestions on sites that have good quality and price on things like BA/BB, stoppers, crimp-tops, bact. water, sterile vials, etc. Don't remember any of the sites I used to use. Was going to make one big batch like usual and give tren no ester in oil one more try, but I just don't have enough supplies. So please lmk know your fav. sites for supplies if you don't mind, or PM me if you want to keep the site more private. Thanks in advance!
 
Tux said:
Sorry there are over 160 pages in this thread and I didn't have time to search them all. Who all do you guys use for supplies? I've been home-brewing for 12 or 13 years now, but I haven't made anything in a while. Need suggestions on sites that have good quality and price on things like BA/BB, stoppers, crimp-tops, bact. water, sterile vials, etc. Don't remember any of the sites I used to use. Was going to make one big batch like usual and give tren no ester in oil one more try, but I just don't have enough supplies. So please lmk know your fav. sites for supplies if you don't mind, or PM me if you want to keep the site more private. Thanks in advance!
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Medical-and-lab-supplies.com
 
Med supply has been good to me, shipping kinda sucks just cause you can't track but they have... eBay and Amazon also has some stuff


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Screwed up my first batch of powders. Any way to save NPP after crashing? I warm it up and shake it and it's fine. 2 days later it's completely crystallized. Feels dumb hahaha
 
nsnmatty said:
What concentration did you go for? Ratios? Carrier oil?
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Made too much at once. Should've stuck to 10g at a time but I used all 30. Read somewhere just to triple the oil, ba, and bb. Calculations went wrong because I mixed up spreadsheets and all went to hell. Ended up with 30g powder with only enough oil, BA and bb for 10g placed in 3 100ml vials. I figure I can add the extra 40ml oil, 2.5 mg BA and 20ish mg of BB per vial? As it's sitting, it's severely overdosed.
 
glutesbrah said:
Made too much at once. Should've stuck to 10g at a time but I used all 30. Read somewhere just to triple the oil, ba, and bb. Calculations went wrong because I mixed up spreadsheets and all went to hell. Ended up with 30g powder with only enough oil, BA and bb for 10g placed in 3 100ml vials. I figure I can add the extra 40ml oil, 2.5 mg BA and 20ish mg of BB per vial? As it's sitting, it's severely overdosed.
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If done correctly for only 10 grams what was your exact recipe?

Cause where u sit even without knowing what the recipe was 30 grams in 300 ml is 100 mg per ml.

And that's not even accurate. It could be less. But just taking 30 grams which is 30,000 mg. Divided by 300ml that's 100 mg per ml. So before you do anything. You need to post what the recipe was supposed to be before adjustments can be made to salvage it

KRAZIEONE
 
krazieone56 said:
If done correctly for only 10 grams what was your exact recipe?

Cause where u sit even without knowing what the recipe was 30 grams in 300 ml is 100 mg per ml.

And that's not even accurate. It could be less. But just taking 30 grams which is 30,000 mg. Divided by 300ml that's 100 mg per ml. So before you do anything. You need to post what the recipe was supposed to be before adjustments can be made to salvage it

KRAZIEONE
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Calculations I used were 24.5*3 for oil (73.5 ml), .8 * 3 for BA (2.4mg), and 7.2 * 3 for BB (21.6mg). I realize how wrong these are now.. No idea why I didn't catch it before everything. Just looking for a way to save what I made haha. Thanks for any help brahs.

Edit: for 30g of NPP :/
 
glutesbrah said:
Calculations I used were 24.5*3 for oil (73.5 ml), .8 * 3 for BA (2.4mg), and 7.2 * 3 for BB (21.6mg). I realize how wrong these are now.. No idea why I didn't catch it before everything. Just looking for a way to save what I made haha. Thanks for any help brahs.

Edit: for 30g of NPP :/
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Well just going off the numbers u used for just 10 grams. And idk what you calculated the displacement at for the powder. I did .85. Which I don't even know if that is the correct displacement for npp as I havnt ever done it. But let's say it is. That's 36.8 ml of liquid when all is said and done. Divide that into 10,000 mg. That's 271.73 mg per ml. So something is off. What was your math on the displacement of the powder? Or does anyone know exactly what the weight is?

KRAZIEONE
 
Now I just did the same math for basically what u did. A triple batch. Its 123ml of solution. Divided into 30,000mg is 243.90 mg per ml. But u said u had 3 100 ml bottles u put it in. So I'm a little confused. If it really is 123 ml. If you add 27 ml of oil it would be a concentration of 200 mg/ml. That shud hold fine I would think. Can someone check my math. Make sure I'm right. Or maybe I missed something?

KRAZIEONE
 
krazieone56 said:
Now I just did the same math for basically what u did. A triple batch. Its 123ml of solution. Divided into 30,000mg is 243.90 mg per ml. But u said u had 3 100 ml bottles u put it in. So I'm a little confused. If it really is 123 ml. If you add 27 ml of oil it would be a concentration of 200 mg/ml. That shud hold fine I would think. Can someone check my math. Make sure I'm right. Or maybe I missed something?

KRAZIEONE
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Not sure if you can PM me but that would be awesome. I don't wanna flood the thread with my problem haha. Or possibly your email/skype? Lemme know. Thanks for the help so far brah.
 
glutesbrah said:
Not sure if you can PM me but that would be awesome. I don't wanna flood the thread with my problem haha. Or possibly your email/skype? Lemme know. Thanks for the help so far brah.
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No. U only have 10 posts. That's what this lounge is for. Problems and questions.

KRAZIEONE
 
glutesbrah said:
Not sure if you can PM me but that would be awesome. I don't wanna flood the thread with my problem haha. Or possibly your email/skype? Lemme know. Thanks for the help so far brah.
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It's not flooding the thread if it can help others learn as well.

By mix you mean do a blend?
 
krazieone56 said:
No. U only have 10 posts. That's what this lounge is for. Problems and questions.

KRAZIEONE
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Okay.

I'll type exactly what I did.

Weighed 30g of NPP, measured out 72.5ml oil, 24mg BB and 2.5g BA and mixed them all into a beaker. Stirred it up, let it sit on a pan until clear and then divided the solution up into 3 different 100 ml vials (3 of us are in on this). Each vial was filled roughly a little less than half.. So split between the three of us, the final amount was around 35-40ml of solution in each vial.
 
glutesbrah said:
Okay.

I'll type exactly what I did.

Weighed 30g of NPP, measured out 72.5ml oil, 24mg BB and 2.5g BA and mixed them all into a beaker. Stirred it up, let it sit on a pan until clear and then divided the solution up into 3 different 100 ml vials (3 of us are in on this). Each vial was filled roughly a little less than half.. So split between the three of us, the final amount was around 35-40ml of solution in each vial.
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Then your concentration is 240.96 mg/ml.

KRAZIEONE
 
glutesbrah said:
Yes sir, but it's crashed hard and completely crystallized. I was wondering what I could do to even it out so it doesn't crash and evens out to about 100mg/ml. Thanks again for your help man. Means a lot.
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First what I would try is making it 200mg/ml and see if it holds. So u need to take it out of the vials back into the beaker and add carrier oil. Now the other issue is that your bb and ba will be off. I'm not so concerned about the bb because you may not need more. I am a little concerned about the ba as to keeping it bacteria free once bottled and filtered. But first get it to hold. So add 25 ml of carrier oil reheat and let sit in beaker. And see if it holds when totally cooled to room temp. Start there. Someone else may have some suggestions. But that's what I would do first.

KRAZIEONE
 
You know what fuck it. Matty maybe you can help the guy. Cause obviously I have no idea what I'm talking about and I'm sick of Mt following me around like a bitch ass little fat puppy dog, doggin me out everywhere I turn. See ya.

KRAZIEONE
 
krazieone56 said:
You know what fuck it. Matty maybe you can help the guy. Cause obviously I have no idea what I'm talking about and I'm sick of Mt following me around like a bitch ass little fat puppy dog, doggin me out everywhere I turn. See ya.

KRAZIEONE
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Dunno if the guy is trolling or not but fuck him either way. You're obviously invaluable to a thread like this. Thanks for the responses.
 
krazieone56 said:
First what I would try is making it 200mg/ml and see if it holds. So u need to take it out of the vials back into the beaker and add carrier oil. Now the other issue is that your bb and ba will be off. I'm not so concerned about the bb because you may not need more. I am a little concerned about the ba as to keeping it bacteria free once bottled and filtered. But first get it to hold. So add 25 ml of carrier oil reheat and let sit in beaker. And see if it holds when totally cooled to room temp. Start there. Someone else may have some suggestions. But that's what I would do first.

KRAZIEONE
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Yes and no. Honestly 200 mg/ml is high for npp that I've seen. I think you really salvage this follow his advice but bring it down to 100mg/ml. I stick to things I see lab's do haven't tried to go above 100 maybe if my new source proves legit I'll attempt higher concentration with a cso sso blend.

What oil are you using? What % Bb?
 
nsnmatty said:
Yes and no. Honestly 200 mg/ml is high for npp that I've seen. I think you really salvage this follow his advice but bring it down to 100mg/ml. I stick to things I see lab's do haven't tried to go above 100 maybe if my new source proves legit I'll attempt higher concentration with a cso sso blend.

What oil are you using? What % Bb?
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So ya if he does that and makes it 150ml at 200mg per ml. And it holds he could cut it down more by adding 10ml ba and 115 ml oil? That's shud give him 300ml at 100mg dosage. What u think?

KRAZIEONE
 
If it doesn't hold. He could just do the whole 3% 15% 82% manuevar. And he shud b OK also. It really depends if it holds at 200mg.

KRAZIEONE
 
Kraz and Nsn are very helpful to people. Hands on is the best, and should not be condemned. Math, weight, and simple planning. Start small...record results. Use proven recipes, and since it is being made for a group....do not by pressured or be on a time constraint. Big mistakes are costly, and difficult to understand. Every thing are in small measurements.a 0.1 difference is drastic. Single batch, get experience. The slowly scale up. Remember there is waste that has to be accounted for. I truly gig this thread. J
 
What oils are you using? I've gotten prop, tren and masteron to hold at 200mgs/ml with eo. Maybe I can offer some advice
 
EO. Would be better as gkilla said. In the org. Post he was baseing his formula with 0.8ml ba, and 7.2ml bb. I am not a fan of extra ba. but I think 1ml ba and 9 or 10ml bb would have been a good starting point, a swell as eo instead of oil. J
 
From what I have read npp will hold at 2/20 in concentrations upto 150mgs/ml without eo but start getting painful over 100mgs/ml. With eo you could get even higher concentration and a thinner product that is possibly less pain at higher concentrations. I would just make it 100mgs/ml without eo or 150mgs/ml with eo. So basically once you've decided on a recipe take the ingredients and minus what you've alrdy added and divide by 3. If heat needs to be applied then put an 18g in the top of the jug.
 
Biotoxic said:
EO. Would be better as gkilla said. In the org. Post he was baseing his formula with 0.8ml ba, and 7.2ml bb. I am not a fan of extra ba. but I think 1ml ba and 9 or 10ml bb would have been a good starting point, a swell as eo instead of oil. J
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Extra ba is not a problem. You won't even notice it. It only helps with bacteria sterility.

KRAZIEONE
 
Gkilla said:
From what I have read npp will hold at 2/20 in concentrations upto 150mgs/ml without eo but start getting painful over 100mgs/ml. With eo you could get even higher concentration and a thinner product that is possibly less pain at higher concentrations. I would just make it 100mgs/ml without eo or 150mgs/ml with eo. So basically once you've decided on a recipe take the ingredients and minus what you've alrdy added and divide by 3. If heat needs to be applied then put an 18g in the top of the jug.
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Why would you put an 18 gauge needle in the jug to reheat? Not sterile doing it that way. U r letting non sterile air in. I have reheated vials before in water. That were sealed. But I always remove bottle pressure after filtering and filling the bottle. With a sterile syringe and tip.

KRAZIEONE
 
That has crossed my mind and I just worry about pressure build up. So you just relieve the pressure afterwards? That sounds like a safer idea. Mine is a little dated maybe lol
 
Gkilla said:
That has crossed my mind and I just worry about pressure build up. So you just relieve the pressure afterwards? That sounds like a safer idea. Mine is a little dated maybe lol
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Yes. I get like a 10ml syringe w a 20 gauge tip and draw out the pressurized air after its filled

KRAZIEONE
 
I was thinking about switch to 20g from 18g. I've found that 18g can leave bits of rubber in your juice. Not often but it has happened to me once or twice
 
What is everyone's opinions on blends? Like prop/ tren 75/75 per ml. I always wondered how accurate the dosing is. How do you know how much of each your getting each draw? I've steered clear cause I've heard you can't be sure but a blend would be convenient
 
Gkilla said:
What is everyone's opinions on blends? Like prop/ tren 75/75 per ml. I always wondered how accurate the dosing is. How do you know how much of each your getting each draw? I've steered clear cause I've heard you can't be sure but a blend would be convenient
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The dosing is in the recipe not the bottle. What u put in comes out. But it would be better to do a 50mg test 100mg tren blend.

KRAZIEONE
 
krazieone56 said:
The dosing is in the recipe not the bottle. What u put in comes out. But it would be better to do a 50mg test 100mg tren blend.

KRAZIEONE
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I was talking more on a per ml basis. If I make if 75/75 per ml in a 20ml bottle am I getting 75/75 every single ml. How do you not get more of one and less of another. Having hard time explaining this sorry lol
 
Kraz, yes the ba is for sterility, that is why I thought going from 0.8ml to 1.0 would be good. Pharm grade is 0.9ml. I was worried to his splitting into the 3 vials, more chance of contamination. As to gkilla and his 75/75 blend, as kraz said it is in the formula, during mixing and the constituents, blending makes it to a homogeneous mixture, so you get the 75/75 in every ml. J
 
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