Does anyone import test/hcg from Chinese grey market sources?

[TRTGoodEnoughForMe]

I've been seeing a lot of hype on reddit about Chinese sources for Test and Peptides, but not many posts on here.

I'll be straight I want the best bang for my buck as well as quality and it seems like there's tons of good Chinese vendors out there, but they are hard to find? I don't even know how to get on the grey market and I've been searching on Yandex for ways in. It seems like a lot of the interactions are done on Tegram and Whatsapp?

Anyway, id only be wanting to order some test cyp/e and hcg. So I'm not overly concerned about customs. It might get taken, but I think if you keep the order small you should be ok?

Keen to head from people with experience in this space.

 

[LevButlerov]

I've been seeing a lot of hype on reddit about Chinese sources for Test and Peptides, but not many posts on here.

I'll be straight I want the best bang for my buck as well as quality and it seems like there's tons of good Chinese vendors out there, but they are hard to find? I don't even know how to get on the grey market and I've been searching on Yandex for ways in. It seems like a lot of the interactions are done on Tegram and Whatsapp?

Anyway, id only be wanting to order some test cyp/e and hcg. So I'm not overly concerned about customs. It might get taken, but I think if you keep the order small you should be ok?

Keen to head from people with experience in this space.

I would not import from China its dangerous trash, only get gear and peps from trusted suppliers like @AuStarLabs

@KrisPTofu @Dave1288499 @trentwin1

 

[Dave1288499]

I would not import from China its dangerous trash, only get gear and peps from trusted suppliers like @AuStarLabs

@KrisPTofu @Dave1288499 @trentwin1

I've used Chinese vendors because it was cheaper and I still do my test is from China as I liked the pricing. But the sources here are good

 

[TRTGoodEnoughForMe]

I've used Chinese vendors because it was cheaper and I still do my test is from China as I liked the pricing. But the sources here are good

Thanks mate that's good info.

 

[LevButlerov]

I've used Chinese vendors because it was cheaper and I still do my test is from China as I liked the pricing. But the sources here are good

Chinese vendors come with a lot of problems usually its like tossing coin for health.

 

[Dave1288499]

Chinese vendors come with a lot of problems usually its like tossing coin for health.

I thought that was Indian vendors. From what I know quite a few vendors just buy the finished product from one of the Chinese vendors. Some buy the raws and make their own from there.

 

[LevButlerov]

I thought that was Indian vendors. From what I know quite a few vendors just buy the finished product from one of the Chinese vendors. Some buy the raws and make their own from there.

Indian vendors all scams the worst or the worst!

 

[Dave1288499]

Indian vendors all scams the worst or the worst!

I've used Indian gear felt like shit.

 

[LevButlerov]

I've used Indian gear felt like shit.

exactly

 

[Dave1288499]

exactly

And from what I know that's half the market in NZ and aus

 

[LevButlerov]

And from what I know that's half the market in NZ and aus

sad

 

[Dave1288499]

sad

Because not many people want to take that risk

 

[LevButlerov]

Because not many people want to take that risk

I understand

 

[Dave1288499]

I understand

It's what it is

 

[LevButlerov]

It's what it is

very true

 

[Dave1288499]

very true

A crack down on black market anabolics in the early 2000s basically created the issue

 

[LevButlerov]

A crack down on black market anabolics in the early 2000s basically created the issue

yes terrible

 

[Namelessx]

I would not import from China its dangerous trash, only get gear and peps from trusted suppliers like @AuStarLabs

@KrisPTofu @Dave1288499 @trentwin1

Hi guys, regarding Chinese oils I agree it’s best to stick with the trusted recommendations here on the forum. Heaps of records and real costumers reviews. I’ll definitely be buying from the top guys here soon.

On the peptides, I’m not having a go at any local vendors at all, I massively appreciate their work and risk. A few months ago I bought reta from IronClad, who is top notch guy, not crazy results on his 10mg reta though I think my body just needed a reset to feel the effects properly again.

China supplies over 90% of the world's grey market peptides, all AU grey stock comes from there anyway. China only has about 4 or 5 actual quality manufacturers, while the rest are essentially resellers.

The issue is vendors heavily focus their Janoshik COAs on mass and purity (which is great for peace of mind, though purity is rarely below 98%), virtually no one tests for endotoxins, heavy metals (and ideally sterility). I was able to find one AU vendor that conducts this coas (and no, he is not on reddit or evo, it’s not my own business, or friend, or a scam, have no interest or connection to this vendor).

Given the massive wholesale discounts available from China, example, I just tested this and got an 18% discount on an order of 10 boxes of reta 20mg x 10-vial per box ($125 per box). The more peps you buy the bigger the discount is.

The fact that AU vendors flip them for $250 or more per single vial, the profit margins are huge. With that kind of crazy markup, there is definitely more than enough money for them to cover comprehensive Jano testing for endotoxins, metals, and ideally sterility on top of standard purity.

@TRTGoodEnoughForMe , do your own research well. I have never bought directly from China myself, but eventually will, or maybe not . I’m doing my own research and vetting atm in case I go that route.

My 2 cents.