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New product testing

Z28blak said:
Looking at making a test p 200mg/mL

I will have 10 bottles to ship out as of this Friday looking for testers

To report any pip, any discomfort and so on

The following will be in it.

Carrier oil- cottonseed,coconut oil blend
Ba
Bb


So please keep that in mind.

Let me know if you want to sample it.


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Z28blak said:
Ba 2%
Bb 12%



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200mg/ml test prop will not hold whatsoever at BA 2% BB12% unless you are using guaiacol or EO

That level of solvent will barely hold 125mg?

Not saying you're lying at all, but if its holding than you don't have test prop or a decently pure form of it, i would be careful.

XENO
 
Z28blak said:
Looking at making a test p 200mg/mL

I will have 10 bottles to ship out as of this Friday looking for testers

To report any pip, any discomfort and so on

The following will be in it.

Carrier oil- cottonseed,coconut oil blend
Ba
Bb


So please keep that in mind.

Let me know if you want to sample it.


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To late or what ??? And never got that email back from the sale but I'm over it I guess lol


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Unless the coconut blend has some type of unforeseen properties that allow the hormone to stay in solution. Its definitely not used as a solvent though.

I will test it myself as if that is the case that should be what everyone is using.

XENO
 
What ever happened with this product test run? Are we getting the prop? And when? Curious, anxious ....
 
Z28blak said:
Looking at making a test p 200mg/mL

I will have 10 bottles to ship out as of this Friday looking for testers

To report any pip, any discomfort and so on

The following will be in it.

Carrier oil- cottonseed,coconut oil blend
Ba
Bb


So please keep that in mind



Let me know if you want to sample it.


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I would love to what do I got to do I've used many different oils
 
Creep said:
What ever happened with this product test run? Are we getting the prop? And when? Curious, anxious ....
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They were supposed to be shipped out Monday. He got caught up with a lot of stuff. I will be running his test prop solo when it comes in. I'll give a log/review throughout.
 
Creep said:
What ever happened with this product test run? Are we getting the prop? And when? Curious, anxious ....
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I sent him an email asking when they should be expected to land, I'm not in a hurry, just like to know when to guard the mailbox. I know his little guy wasn't doing too great and that should be priority number 1.
 
Seems hey may have a lot of things going on at the moment definitely not usual but understandable most definitely.


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Xeno Pharmaceuticals said:
Unless the coconut blend has some type of unforeseen properties that allow the hormone to stay in solution. Its definitely not used as a solvent though.

I will test it myself as if that is the case that should be what everyone is using.

XENO
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Actually at 2% Ba it will hold just fine at200mg depends on the batch size for a large scale no it won't.

Coconut oil is almost pure mtc oil thinner holds at higher concentrations





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As for the batch of samples they are getting sent out today


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Yes I have email I'll be contacting them to get screen names
As I don't want to post an email address



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So let's see coconut oil properties have many benefits 😉


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Z28blak said:
So let's see coconut oil properties have many benefits ��


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Bro my wife is Filipino.. They use coconut for everything.. They eat it, drink it, use it topical.. Lol good stuff..
 
gmoneypro said:
Put in thier hair. Used to date this Filipina. She swore by the shit.
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Yea.. Make her hair super soft.. So I can grab it.. Lol.. Anyway hope this prop turns out well for everyone!
 
Good to hear samples were sent, I wanna see what all the hype is about with BWL. Make me a believer, make me a customer!
 
They got sent first class
But yes let's hope all goes well with this test and BWL is happy to take care of any customers


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Heck yea Z thank you bro. I will keep you updated through email and pm. 1st class so that means i better be on the look out. Haha Thanks man
 
Z28blak said:
They got sent first class
But yes let's hope all goes well with this test and BWL is happy to take care of any customers


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Hey Z- checking in - you said my money was being picked up Monday (8th), and my order was paid before you announced the new product trial. I know you've had a lot going on- just haven't heard from you. Thanks in advance :cool:
 
Test-172 said:
Hey Z- checking in - you said my money was being picked up Monday (8th), and my order was paid before you announced the new product trial. I know you've had a lot going on- just haven't heard from you. Thanks in advance :cool:
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I have your order and the test inside shipping today
If you have sent payment and it hasn't been picked up please pm me we have a issue with one of the pick up people


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Z28blak said:
I have your order and the test inside shipping today
If you have sent payment and it hasn't been picked up please pm me we have a issue with one of the pick up people


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Thanks so much! I don't know how to see if it has been picked up- I just didn't see any reply indicating it had. I'll pm the number if you need it to check.
 
I volunteered to test it, and post feedback, no bloods. I gave my shipping info, so I'm assuming I'm one of the testers. I'll let the board know when I get the gear, when I pin, any PIP, increase in libido etc....
 
Just a heads up to all those getting test p200 after 5 days we have had 2 bottles crystallize, so be aware of this as you may need to heat it up back to solution before injecting


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Z28blak said:
Just a heads up to all those getting test p200 after 5 days we have had 2 bottles crystallize, so be aware of this as you may need to heat it up back to solution before injecting


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So did you send an email to everyone getting a sample?
 
Not yet just posted it on here. But I don't think everyone keeps there house at 68 degrees like I do in the lab


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Under running hot water,

Or on the stove top power 3 for 5-10min make sure you stick a needle in the top to vent


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no shit it crashed?! at 2% 12% coconut oil Z you really......... Really thought test prop was going to hold at 200mg? Any experienced brewer knows that shits going to crash either A)Once its bottled separately and touches the air, B)Once the user draws it out, C)at 12% 200mg that shits going to crash hard in depot and cause beautiful amounts of pain, D)or its just going to crash for its test prop trying to be brewed at 200mg with no guiac. or high BB and the temps of your home are much higher thrn that of the belly of a plane which drop to 32* which will put any boarder line formulation to the test, which this is FAR from boarder line.... let me ask you this.... Have you even hit this shit yourself yet? Or are you testing such products at the expense of others because im honestly baffled along with many others over the fact that you think 2% 12% isnt going to crash hard as fuck.... every single one of them....
 
BuryMeBig said:
no shit it crashed?! at 2% 12% coconut oil Z you really......... Really thought test prop was going to hold at 200mg? Any experienced brewer knows that shits going to crash either A)Once its bottled separately and touches the air, B)Once the user draws it out, C)at 12% 200mg that shits going to crash hard in depot and cause beautiful amounts of pain, D)or its just going to crash for its test prop trying to be brewed at 200mg with no guiac. or high BB and the temps of your home are much higher thrn that of the belly of a plane which drop to 32* which will put any boarder line formulation to the test, which this is FAR from boarder line.... let me ask you this.... Have you even hit this shit yourself yet? Or are you testing such products at the expense of others because im honestly baffled along with many others over the fact that you think 2% 12% isnt going to crash hard as fuck.... every single one of them....
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Alright, got some brew master chiming in. I'm about to get my learn on. Thanks dude
 
its going to take a good amount of heat to re-suspend this gear, the best option is to simply vent the vial with a needle and place it in the oven starting at temps of about 200* and shaking it periodically.... otherwise if your planning on using the water/pan method youll have to take that shit up to a boil a few times then placing the vial into the bath off flame... remove it, shake, bring water to boil again, and place the vial back in and repeat.... good luck man
 
BuryMeBig said:
no shit it crashed?! at 2% 12% coconut oil Z you really......... Really thought test prop was going to hold at 200mg? Any experienced brewer knows that shits going to crash either A)Once its bottled separately and touches the air, B)Once the user draws it out, C)at 12% 200mg that shits going to crash hard in depot and cause beautiful amounts of pain, D)or its just going to crash for its test prop trying to be brewed at 200mg with no guiac. or high BB and the temps of your home are much higher thrn that of the belly of a plane which drop to 32* which will put any boarder line formulation to the test, which this is FAR from boarder line.... let me ask you this.... Have you even hit this shit yourself yet? Or are you testing such products at the expense of others because im honestly baffled along with many others over the fact that you think 2% 12% isnt going to crash hard as fuck.... every single one of them....
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It'd be neat if you would help instead of just beating him up?
 
once gear crashes its no longer stable pretty sure you know that... it crashes once, its going to crash again, I have TNE I sent out that people reported it crystallized, although its TNE still, people dont know like we do that its okay if some compounds do indeed crash, although!!! if brewed correctly should not! but compounds like test cyp, or TNE all the goal would be is to re-suspend the compound for the time being as once its injected either the temp of the body will keep it in solution, or its just already absorbed by the body as its a no ester compound, in and out it goes... (kinda) but people see crystals they trip.... thats all.... esp! with a ester like prop which requires a stable depot.
 
Beating him up? brother im not beating him up, im educating those who are not aware of these things, I am more then willing to give him every formulation ive got, as ultimatly it wont effect me brother, but someone who's reluctant to take advice sets a bar over ones self my man, its just important for the users to know this information as they dont know what to expect and I dont blame anyone of you for why would you have to know the chemistry behind it... you shouldn't.... although more power to those that do... but...
 
BuryMeBig said:
Beating him up? brother im not beating him up, im educating those who are not aware of these things, I am more then willing to give him every formulation ive got, as ultimatly it wont effect me brother, but someone who's reluctant to take advice sets a bar over ones self my man, its just important for the users to know this information as they dont know what to expect and I dont blame anyone of you for why would you have to know the chemistry behind it... you shouldn't.... although more power to those that do... but...
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Wow.. It's like me and you just talked about this lol.. Keep preaching bro
 
BuryMeBig said:
Beating him up? brother im not beating him up, im educating those who are not aware of these things, I am more then willing to give him every formulation ive got, as ultimatly it wont effect me brother, but someone who's reluctant to take advice sets a bar over ones self my man, its just important for the users to know this information as they dont know what to expect and I dont blame anyone of you for why would you have to know the chemistry behind it... you shouldn't.... although more power to those that do... but...
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I guess i didn't see where advice was rejected?
 
The formulation just needs to be adjusted and significantly, which can still be made painlessly.... and that includes powder prepping first, or the props going to need to be recrystallized by simply dissolving it in the bare minimum amounts of HOT methanol, allowing it to cool causing its crystallization which ultimately separates the impurities allowing you to then extract and rinse the newly formed crystals from its impurities and methanol, which yes will actually take the powders melting point even higher,(a good thing) BUT! On the other hand then will require less solvent to suspend it, and keep it suspended, with minimal solvent as is the goal the brewer here is trying to achieve.... which if done successfully.... is then called what I CALL... a nectar.......... A Nectar from the gods... hahahahahaha
 
BuryMeBig said:
The formulation just needs to be adjusted and significantly, which can still be made painlessly.... and that includes powder prepping first, or the props going to need to be recrystallized by simply dissolving it in the bare minimum amounts of HOT methanol, allowing it to cool causing its crystallization which ultimately separates the impurities allowing you to then extract and rinse the newly formed crystals from its impurities and methanol, which yes will actually take the powders melting point even higher,(a good thing) BUT! On the other hand then will require less solvent to suspend it, and keep it suspended, with minimal solvent as is the goal the brewer here is trying to achieve.... which if done successfully.... is then called what I CALL... a nectar.......... A Nectar from the gods... hahahahahaha
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Killing me with the nectar.. Lol
 
BuryMeBig said:
The formulation just needs to be adjusted and significantly, which can still be made painlessly.... and that includes powder prepping first, or the props going to need to be recrystallized by simply dissolving it in the bare minimum amounts of HOT methanol, allowing it to cool causing its crystallization which ultimately separates the impurities allowing you to then extract and rinse the newly formed crystals from its impurities and methanol, which yes will actually take the powders melting point even higher,(a good thing) BUT! On the other hand then will require less solvent to suspend it, and keep it suspended, with minimal solvent as is the goal the brewer here is trying to achieve.... which if done successfully.... is then called what I CALL... a nectar.......... A Nectar from the gods... hahahahahaha
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Sounds cool
 
TreyG said:
So would you say heat it up and give it a go? BMB?
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Yea why not honestly...... the only thing that will really result in this case will be some post injection pain brother thats all..... as it will either just hurt because its 200mg of the clone of the devil lol the prop ester... (although I like many am a huge fan of prop as it doesn't effect me like many others, which could be the case here with Z as perhaps he hit it and for him he loved it!) but it'll either cause pain from the short esters nature of doing so.... or the depot will quickly be leached of its solvents or simply the depot wont have a sufficient amount to stay in depot, and will literally crystallize in the muscle.... ONE way or another the test will be broken down and absorbed absolutely..... just MAY be.. at the expense of some pip..... or having to just reheat every pin... not a biggie really...
 
BuryMeBig said:
Yea why not honestly...... the only thing that will really result in this case will be some post injection pain brother thats all..... as it will either just hurt because its 200mg of the clone of the devil lol the prop ester... (although I like many am a huge fan of prop as it doesn't effect me like many others, which could be the case here with Z as perhaps he hit it and for him he loved it!) but it'll either cause pain from the short esters nature of doing so.... or the depot will quickly be leached of its solvents or simply the depot wont have a sufficient amount to stay in depot, and will literally crystallize in the muscle.... ONE way or another the test will be broken down and absorbed absolutely..... just MAY be.. at the expense of some pip..... or having to just reheat every pin... not a biggie really...
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Would it be better sub q, even though absorption would be slower, to avoid crystals in the muscle fibers?
 
NY REBEL said:
Wow.. It's like me and you just talked about this lol.. Keep preaching bro
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haha thanks NY ur a good dude that I proudly can say looks past the horizon.... what I say is not intended to offend one or be viewed as me fuckin just, going around criticizing people, its all said in good faith of those in here my man... criticism in one shape or another is constructive.... it all depends on how one perceives it.... my goal is not to help preserve sources, but more like people faith in them shit.... anyhow enough clogging homeboys thread best of luck here.
 
Test-172 said:
Would it be better sub q, even though absorption would be slower, to avoid crystals in the muscle fibers?
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absolutely not no no you want the depot formed, and testosterone like any oil based and all water based steroids must be hit IM definitely...
 
BuryMeBig said:
haha thanks NY ur a good dude that I proudly can say looks past the horizon.... what I say is not intended to offend one or be viewed as me fuckin just, going around criticizing people, its all said in good faith of those in here my man... criticism in one shape or another is constructive.... it all depends on how one perceives it.... my goal is not to help preserve sources, but more like people faith in them shit.... anyhow enough clogging homeboys thread best of luck here.
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Bro.. You need your own thread.. Like.. Bmb words to the wise. Your got a wealth of knowledge that really take can benefit all of us.. Thanks for sharing.. Even if your a"dick" bahaha lemme know when you're stocked up
 
BuryMeBig said:
Yea why not honestly...... the only thing that will really result in this case will be some post injection pain brother thats all..... as it will either just hurt because its 200mg of the clone of the devil lol the prop ester... (although I like many am a huge fan of prop as it doesn't effect me like many others, which could be the case here with Z as perhaps he hit it and for him he loved it!) but it'll either cause pain from the short esters nature of doing so.... or the depot will quickly be leached of its solvents or simply the depot wont have a sufficient amount to stay in depot, and will literally crystallize in the muscle.... ONE way or another the test will be broken down and absorbed absolutely..... just MAY be.. at the expense of some pip..... or having to just reheat every pin... not a biggie really...
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Thank you my brother. I see we could all learn a lot from you. Again thank u
 
Actually that formula worked just fine on a test ace I made up and as it being said it was a trial with the prop, I do enjoy the short esters and yes the prop will crash everytime so you will need to reheat every time to use it also that formula worked fine at 150mg so yes I am an experienced brewer thanks buryme.


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Not like any of you paid for it, just a test to see


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Z28blak said:
Not like any of you paid for it, just a test to see


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Bro this just a learning experience for us all.. We really enjoy hearing this stuff. Free or not, people are injecting it.. Thanks for all the feedback.
 
Yes this is true. People are injecting it and if you wanna use it it will need to be heated everytime. Before injecting. So if you choose not to use it don't. Nothing lost,


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Z28blak said:
Yes this is true. People are injecting it and if you wanna use it it will need to be heated everytime. Before injecting. So if you choose not to use it don't. Nothing lost,


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I'm just saying, we all appreciate everyone's efforts. I know your trying make great product. I enjoy hearing you "masters" talk about how things are going.. But saying, it's free, not like your paid for it, makes me feel like an addict that should be happy he got free fix.. Yall keep doing good things. I'm just Here catching up.
 
Z28blak said:
Yes this is true. People are injecting it and if you wanna use it it will need to be heated everytime. Before injecting. So if you choose not to use it don't. Nothing lost,


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You still want feedback on pip? Maybe moot point since you're going back to the board with formulation, will provide whatever you like though. Appreciate the opportunity to test and help.
 
BuryMeBig said:
no shit it crashed?! at 2% 12% coconut oil Z you really......... Really thought test prop was going to hold at 200mg? Any experienced brewer knows that shits going to crash either A)Once its bottled separately and touches the air, B)Once the user draws it out, C)at 12% 200mg that shits going to crash hard in depot and cause beautiful amounts of pain, D)or its just going to crash for its test prop trying to be brewed at 200mg with no guiac. or high BB and the temps of your home are much higher thrn that of the belly of a plane which drop to 32* which will put any boarder line formulation to the test, which this is FAR from boarder line.... let me ask you this.... Have you even hit this shit yourself yet? Or are you testing such products at the expense of others because im honestly baffled along with many others over the fact that you think 2% 12% isnt going to crash hard as fuck.... every single one of them....
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This is the post that tipped my bucket. As yes I did hit this formula myself and it was good for me as I said yes it crashed but to call one and inexperience person when I have been nothing but helpful in any situation. And have written a lot for my brand and what I put out. And I wouldn't want anyone injecting something I wouldn't. But hey I never said I was king. Either so thanks live and learn.


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Z28blak said:
This is the post that tipped my bucket. As yes I did hit this formula myself and it was good for me as I said yes it crashed but to call one and inexperience person when I have been nothing but helpful in any situation. And have written a lot for my brand and what I put out. And I wouldn't want anyone injecting something I wouldn't. But hey I never said I was king. Either so thanks live and learn.


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wow Z I never said you were "inexperienced" brother nor do I really believe you are, so if that tipped your bucket go ahead and collect yourself because no where did I say you are in fact inexperienced... hence why I said it may have been painless if Z! Perhaps DID hit this gear himself,which I dont see as you did not disclose whether or not you did brother..... and if you look a few pages back, I am not the only one here telling you this formulation absolutely would not hold, nor did you mention it would require heating lol..... so rather then making me out to be the bad guy for the second? third time? I'm not going to keep playing that fuckin game brother...

Z28blak said:
Actually at 2% Ba it will hold just fine at200mg depends on the batch size for a large scale no it won't.

Coconut oil is almost pure mtc oil thinner holds at higher concentrations





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Anyhow, per note, im going to stop there with that as theres nothing more that needs to be said..... as for the Test Ace.... even more so temperamental should I say... then Prop, now @150mg @ 2/12 absolutely IS NOT happening are you fuckin kidding me? Anyhow word do your thing.
 
BuryMeBig said:
wow Z I never said you were "inexperienced" brother nor do I really believe you are, so if that tipped your bucket go ahead and collect yourself because no where did I say you are in fact inexperienced... hence why I said it may have been painless if Z! Perhaps DID hit this gear himself,which I dont see as you did not disclose whether or not you did brother..... and if you look a few pages back, I am not the only one here telling you this formulation absolutely would not hold, nor did you mention it would require heating lol..... so rather then making me out to be the bad guy for the second? third time? I'm not going to keep playing that fuckin game brother...



Anyhow, per note, im going to stop there with that as theres nothing more that needs to be said..... as for the Test Ace.... even more so temperamental should I say... then Prop, now @150mg @ 2/12 absolutely IS NOT happening are you fuckin kidding me? Anyhow word do your thing.
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Maybe you should go back and read as I have said 2 times I have tried the 200.

And the 150mg worked fine as I had other solvents added. So before you say something won't work maybe wait to see what all was added. And you basically called me inexperienced. Maybe go back and read what you wrote big dog. Either way. I will keep doing what I do.


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Test-172 said:
Omg really? Gluteal intramuscular joke. Take it easy NY
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Bahaha that's not what I was referring to, Thets Funny as hell.. I'm just getting on here from shopping.. Bahaha
 
Creep said:
I volunteered to test it, and post feedback, no bloods. I gave my shipping info, so I'm assuming I'm one of the testers. I'll let the board know when I get the gear, when I pin, any PIP, increase in libido etc....
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I created a forum for the test p. I also am tryin it. Jump on my thread brother and give your input as well. That way all the reviews are in the same place.
 
Z28blak said:
Maybe you should go back and read as I have said 2 times I have tried the 200.

And the 150mg worked fine as I had other solvents added. So before you say something won't work maybe wait to see what all was added. And you basically called me inexperienced. Maybe go back and read what you wrote big dog. Either way. I will keep doing what I do.


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you know what brother I really dont need to, for I wrote it, but did anyhow, and that's where I also read....

Z28blak said:
Actually that formula worked just fine on a test ace I made up and as it being said it was a trial with the prop, I do enjoy the short esters and yes the prop will crash everytime so you will need to reheat every time to use it also that formula worked fine at 150mg so yes I am an experienced brewer thanks buryme.


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ahaha... ahhh.... alright let me grab some popcorn too I guess while I wait to see if your going to add some more to that

Z28blak said:
Actually that formula worked just fine on a test ace I made up....also that formula worked fine at 150mg so yes... Sent from Black Widow headquarters
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Sure thing bud.... you seem to be following the trend of that one dude whats his face...... what was that fucks name again?.... cant recall honestly... anyhow Z this is what I meant by reluctant to take any advice, and I should have known... but regardless if I had not mentioned anything for the sake of the rest, i'd not be doing my part... and ever since the day you first asked people to test a product of yours in a thread where I was one of the only dudes that was not only willing but was even down to get clear fresh bloods drawn, for I at the time was on nothing.... and you ignored me... and asked publicly again, and again around the fact... I knew exactly why and it couldn't have been more obvious then this and that one fuck you chose to be your rep what ever the fuck his name was... the doctor... I read that shit quicker then that rep of yours went from sugar to shit...

And no one can point the finger at me for saying shit as it is..... I hope your gears successful for the sake of those that are upon its will, but the trend your following is clear and its not promising... I just for one dont trust you one bit for you and I both know lol.... there's something in this prop that obviously made you confident enough to claim 200mg at 2/12 lol... either that, or its just not 200mg and anyone in there right mind with that kind of experience in AAS's would agree...

Test-172 said:
I'll shove it in my ass...
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bwaaahahahaha!! That had me fuckin crying laughing, hahaha def wasn't expecting that one.


Anyhow sorry bro's to disappoint.... for its not me...
 
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