Xeno Pharm Tren Enanthate.

[Jrbdallas]

Hey guys,

This is the start of another log I will be running for Xeno. This one will involve tren enanthate for now and some others down the road.

I started the tren e I believe this Wednesday... it's been a long week. I also injected last night. I will be running 600mg EW for the next 10 weeks.

I have a show I am trying to hit last week of September. I currently weigh about 250 came down most recently from 270ish. I need to drop down bellow the 225 mark to get into the HW class.I transitioned from bulk to cut with with period of added cardio and closely monitored diet with a drop in calorie intake. This lasted for about 4 weeks or so resulting in about 20lbs lost.

I will run 400mgs of test along with the tren. Currently that is vermodje cyp but soon transitioning to pharmacom sustanon.

Down the road I hope to transition to Tren acetate for the last few weeks of prep. Along with the addition of Xeno' Anavar. These are still depending on when his supply arrives.

Prior to this I was running 500-700mg of test along with 400mgs of Xeno Deca. Lasted about 10 weeks and went incredibly well. I also had some MT sprinkled in but we are now done with that stuff for a while lol...





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[Jrbdallas]

Week 1: diet is slightly above TDEE. Cardio ED is only 10 minutes.

After now two pins in, I don't feel much yet. I feel some hightened agression.
Sweat is pouring put of me constantly.

Nothing that is directly linked to the new tren addition though.

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[Jrbdallas]

July 12th PM full stomach after training.
July 25th AM empty stomach just out of bed.

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[Jrbdallas]

July 12th PM full stomach after training.
July 25th AM empty stomach just out of bed.

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[Jrbdallas]

July 12th full stomach just after training

July 25th empty stomach just out of bed.

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[NY REBEL]

Whew weee enjoy my man!! Love to hear that feedback

 

[Jrbdallas]

I do find myself snapping on stupid little shit and getting way to pissed over stuff I usually wouldnt.

I really wish someone could clairify if there is a relation to MT and tren enanthate at the AR. Since I was taking MT for the last week or so just as well as this week with the tren, would that mean trenbelone is already in my system? I'm no where near educated enough on the topic or relation of these two. I do know MT binds to the androgen receptor harder than any other anabolic.

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[NY REBEL]

I do find myself snapping on stupid little shit and getting way to pissed over stuff I usually wouldnt.

I really wish someone could clairify if there is a relation to MT and tren enanthate at the AR. Since I was taking MT for the last week or so just as well as this week with the tren, would that mean trenbelone is already in my system? I'm no where near educated enough on the topic or relation of these two. I do know MT binds to the androgen receptor harder than any other anabolic.

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Yea this topic sort of fell off. I'm interested as well.

 

[Jrbdallas]

Lol cause Gearhead came by with his thread smacking bat and knocked my shit off the board. Haha

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[NY REBEL]

tends to happen when the storm comes he means well!

Lol cause Gearhead came by with his thread smacking bat and knocked my shit off the board. Haha

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[Jrbdallas]

tends to happen when the storm comes he means well!

Oh I know. I didn't mind at all. Just funny is all. I kept looking for my thread like wtf happened to it.

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[Jrbdallas]

Been up all day since 4 can't fucking sleep at all. Just keep sweating and can't relax.... anyway. Weighed in at 249 this evening. Good pump in the gym. Been kinda second looking myself in the mirror. The leaning down is beginning to take a noticeable effect.

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[Jrbdallas]

The tren is pretty damn smooth I gotta say. I actually have zero issue injecting it. No redness or swelling. No pip. I was worried when I saw it was cloudy but it's perfect. Going to pin another cc tomorrow to get my 600 for the week

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[Jrbdallas]

Another cc down. About to go train legs. I sweating like a pig and some views are majorly poppin.

I know for a fact I knicked a blood line this time. I aspirated fine, but when I pulled the needle out there was a lot of blood also got a nice fucking burn inside there to go with.
No cough no metal taste. Feel fine. I feel good overall. Real real good.

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[Jrbdallas]

Veins not views.

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[NY REBEL]

Another cc down. About to go train legs. I sweating like a pig and some views are majorly poppin.

I know for a fact I knicked a blood line this time. I aspirated fine, but when I pulled the needle out there was a lot of blood also got a nice fucking burn inside there to go with.
No cough no metal taste. Feel fine. I feel good overall. Real real good.

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Good bud.. Should be smooth.. Enjoy

 

[Jrbdallas]

I feel like I'm having circulation issues starting to appear too. Il have to look into that...

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[NY REBEL]

I feel like I'm having circulation issues starting to appear too. Il have to look into that...

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Ahhhhhh that's tren lol

 

[NY REBEL]

Going numb quicker, etc.. Tingles... Yup

 

[Jrbdallas]

Going numb quicker, etc.. Tingles... Yup

Exactly. Never really needed to take anything for that in the past. Not sure on that one.

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[NY REBEL]

Give blood bro. I just lived in that exact state for months lol. Till I gave blood

 

[Jrbdallas]

Give blood bro. I just lived in that exact state for months lol. Till I gave blood

Aaaaaaany other options out there? Giving blood is a major deal for me dude. Hahaha not cool.
At the er there was only one vein on the top of my arm they convinced me to let them touch with the infant needle. Even then took me about 20 minutes for them to convince me and they threatened to strap me down.
Ended up giving me anxiety medication or something to calm me down first.

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[Jrbdallas]

I might be able to do it myself. But I have a tough time letting others do it.

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[TreyG]

Man i use to be the same way with needles dallas no i just male myself think of somethin while they do it. Now i can watch and it doesnt bother anymore. Dallas i pm'd you bud.

 

[NY REBEL]

Neri your going feel much better

 

[NY REBEL]

I mean you could pin yourself without a Barrel on a vein.. But that's going get messy. I know. Lol just go do it and feel better.

 

[Jrbdallas]

Ehhhhh Il give it some thought.

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[TreyG]

July 12th full stomach just after training
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July 25th empty stomach just out of bed.View attachment 10709

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Damn look at that back. Fuck ur a beast man.. nice job!!

 

[Jrbdallas]

Damn look at that back. Fuck ur a beast man.. nice job!!

Haha thanks broski

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[NY REBEL]

Bro twenty minutes of discomfort. For feeling better 24/7.. I pass out nearly every time. Last time I fucked up my front grill when I stood up and pasted it on tile floor.. My and that nurse had lunch the next day.

 

[Jrbdallas]

Since clearly I don't give blood o only get tests when it's serious. Is it cool to donate blood being in gear and all?

I have pretty good morals. I would feel right if it was the wrong thing to do. Lol

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[NY REBEL]

Yea, your fine bud.. I had same concern.. Shit is filtered. . Separated

 

[NY REBEL]

need dump platelets anna rbc lol.. Just go give a quart.. Help a few soldiers

 

[Jrbdallas]

Man this shit makes me feel better outside the gym than in it. When I lift I feel like a beast for the first 30 min. Then I start to loose stamina fast and uncontrollably sweat.

Two gallons down and my tank is soaked and so is my gym towel. It's just water works the whole time.

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[Jrbdallas]

Outside the gym I feel like a king. I side the gym I feel like a science experiment gone wrong lol.

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[NY REBEL]

No doubt. Good tren eh.?

 

[Jrbdallas]

No doubt. Good tren eh.?

So far 600 may be a little high idk just kinda pulled a number out of my ass on that one.

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[Jrbdallas]

Last experience was with 200mg

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[NY REBEL]

So far 600 may be a little high idk just kinda pulled a number out of my ass on that one.

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Adjust accordingly.. Lol

 

[Jrbdallas]

So I need to go to 800?

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[Mick]

So I need to go to 800?

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600 should be plenty lol

 

[twistedtanker]

Keep it up bro love the log.

 

[NY REBEL]

Go gram or go home.

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks for the nice log. You are looking massive!

 

[muskate]

Log looks good. Awesome buddy. Thanks for contributing to the community!

Are you using any AI with your cycle? Especially in a pre-contest scenario where you are trying to reduce body fat to as minimal levels as possible, keeping estrogen levels in check is super important. Also have caber or prami on hand in case you get a prolactin flair up.

I would also recommend running n2guard at 7 capsules/day. Tren is one of the worst compounds you can use for your overall health.

Do you have a coach or are you doing your own diet and training? Don't hesitate to shoot me a PM if you want to use me as a sounding board for any ideas/strategies you have.

 

[Jrbdallas]

Log looks good. Awesome buddy. Thanks for contributing to the community!

Are you using any AI with your cycle? Especially in a pre-contest scenario where you are trying to reduce body fat to as minimal levels as possible, keeping estrogen levels in check is super important. Also have caber or prami on hand in case you get a prolactin flair up.

I would also recommend running n2guard at 7 capsules/day. Tren is one of the worst compounds you can use for your overall health.

Do you have a coach or are you doing your own diet and training? Don't hesitate to shoot me a PM if you want to use me as a sounding board for any ideas/strategies you have.

Thanks for the advice man and I appreciate the offer. Il keep it in mind. I'm doing everything on my own. I've been around a lot of friends who compete. Lot of coaches. Picked up some solid advice along the way. I'm pretty comfortable in a posing routine. Working on some transitions now.

I have aromasin as always and tons of prami. The supports are never an issue with me I usually buy that stuff before I even get my cycle.

Diet. Well I got a decent handle on it and it seems to be working quite well so far. The weight had been coming off too quick so I made some changes. Now I got a solid system I think.

It be an interesting run hahah. It would be a lot easier back with all my friends in california but I think I can handle it and put on a good effort. I've been approached by some people here and offered advice and no recourses if needed.

They have all said I have a solid solid foundation and knowledge base. they said my posing is pretty fluid so far in actual routine. Just gotta work on that flare.

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[Jrbdallas]

Muskate I also decided to forgo the plan in my other thread of competing in october. I already got down to 248. I decided to go with the original show I really wanted to do wich is end of september. 9 weeks. Idk man I think I can do it but open to opinion.

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[Jrbdallas]

I'm quite sure I hit something nasty in there yesterdsy. My ass is in so much pain lol. I feel like I got kicked by a horse.

I know for a faced I knicked a blood line. I also think a but got trapped sub q. It's hurting like a bitch. Took 4 advil hope it subsides. This is the only bad injection so far.

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[GTFORMULA]

Hope you feel better soon.

 

[cisco1234]

keep up the good work Dallas. We all have your back and post some pics from time to time for us to give feedback. just an idea maybe put your posing routine on youtube or something if there are more competitors on this board so maybe they can chime in.

 

[Jrbdallas]

keep up the good work Dallas. We all have your back and post some pics from time to time for us to give feedback. just an idea maybe put your posing routine on youtube or something if there are more competitors on this board so maybe they can chime in.

Ya man that's my plan actually. Just need a camera man. Lol. I have my girlfriend coming back into town and when she does I will have her take a couple vids.

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[Jrbdallas]

Hope you feel better soon.

Thanks man. I'm sure it will go away quick.

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[Jrbdallas]

I'm pretty sure I actually have a tren addiction lol. I keep looking at myself like wtf is happening. The dieting, cardio and tren is making me just want more.

Running 600 but I feel like 800 is where it's at lol. Idk may try it this week. I been injecting 200mg of tren EOD and 200mg of test twice a week. I'm freaking loving it.

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[Jrbdallas]

Fun fact... the fridge keeps making this grinding noise every so often. Finally had it and punched a hole through the back of the fride.

Tren is fun....

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[Jrbdallas]

Give me an idea of how drastic these changes are man, I've got my first run with ace in a bit


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Well everyone is different. It depends on your goals and your diet along with your training. I havnt touched tren for a couple years. injectable at least. If your a new tren user you will see some drastic changes.

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[GTFORMULA]

Can't freaking wait till my first tren train ride. Right now I'm putting on some decent mass and losing some fat. After this cycle I'm going to really try to get more fat off. Then hit it hard with the tren when it cools off some down here in the oven called Florida lol

 

[Ol.DirtyBastard]

Well everyone is different. It depends on your goals and your diet along with your training. I havnt touched tren for a couple years. injectable at least. If your a new tren user you will see some drastic changes.

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Ive just jumped on the train (4 weeks in, ramped up to 100 EOD) and I tell you, I fucking love that shit! My body just soaks it in....high libido, barely any sides (well, I wanna kill a MOFO from time to time), and the physical changes just recharges your efforts in the gym.....amazing compound

 

[Jrbdallas]

Can't freaking wait till my first tren train ride. Right now I'm putting on some decent mass and losing some fat. After this cycle I'm going to really try to get more fat off. Then hit it hard with the tren when it cools off some down here in the oven called Florida lol

I'm in Texas and I'm fucking dieing lol.

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[cisco1234]

I'll be there in a couple of months hopefully if i get my bf% down for this comp!

 

[GTFORMULA]

At least you guys have that dry heat. It's almost 100% humidity here lol. I'm sweating like a beast at 8 am and not on tren yet.

 

[GTFORMULA]

BTW not to derail your thread but I love the Dallas area. Thinking of moving north if there someday.

 

[Jrbdallas]

BTW not to derail your thread but I love the Dallas area. Thinking of moving north if there someday.

Ya bro it's actually fairly humid now with all the flooding we had. Lots of moisture still in the air. It's my first year here but they say it's the worst it's been in like 20 years.

It's a nice area man I'm north of Dallas myself.

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[Jrbdallas]

Couple updates. Still pushing 600mg of Xeno tren e.

Weight is at 243...

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[Jrbdallas]

Couple updates. Still pushing 600mg of Xeno tren e.

Weight is at 243...

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[NY REBEL]

Nice Neri...

 

[Jrbdallas]

Couple updates. Still pushing 600mg of Xeno tren e.

Weight is at 243...

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[Jrbdallas]

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[Jrbdallas]

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[Jrbdallas]

I feel so flat. Over a feel like shit.... don't give a single fuck about anyone or anything. Still driven like crazy but my attitude towards everything has turned to pure agression.

Tomorrow I'm taking the day off from the gym going to do some cardio with the dogs, and eat some carbs lol.

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[cisco1234]

Looking good brother, less bear like with all the fur off. i know you were thinking of jumping up to 800 mg of tren... do you think that's wise with how you feel now? also getting any sides from the tren besides sweat, sleeplessness, agression...?

 

[NY REBEL]

I feel so flat. Over a feel like shit.... don't give a single fuck about anyone or anything. Still driven like crazy but my attitude towards everything has turned to pure agression.

Tomorrow I'm taking the day off from the gym going to do some cardio with the dogs, and eat some carbs lol.

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Tren got you down huh...

 

[suraonyx23]

Looking good. How many weeks out til show?

 

[Jrbdallas]

Looking good. How many weeks out til show?

8 weeks. approximately

 

[Jrbdallas]

Looking good brother, less bear like with all the fur off. i know you were thinking of jumping up to 800 mg of tren... do you think that's wise with how you feel now? also getting any sides from the tren besides sweat, sleeplessness, agression...?

Nothing other than the usual tren problems. I am doing enanthate though so I will hang on to 600 for 2 weeks. If I feel the need to increase then I can at least say I gave it a chance.

 

[NY REBEL]

Whew.. Even the idea of 800 scares me lol. I like 600..is about my limit

 

[Jrbdallas]

I feel like I can handle a lot more. Since starting the tren I just feel flat as a fucking board. Idk what's going on. The deca I felt beast even as I got my carbs to dip.

 

[NY REBEL]

I feel like I can handle a lot more. Since starting the tren I just feel flat as a fucking board. Idk what's going on. The deca I felt beast even as I got my carbs to dip.

Sounds backwards... Lol

 

[Jrbdallas]

Ya idk man. I feel some crazy fucking aggression though. But since the swich, vascularity has decreased. Muscles go flat. Feel like I need to watch my water more... weight loss slowed. Even with appetite suppressed.

 

[NY REBEL]

Ya idk man. I feel some crazy fucking aggression though. But since the swich, vascularity has decreased. Muscles go flat. Feel like I need to watch my water more... weight loss slowed. Even with appetite suppressed.

Thats crazy .. I'm exact opposite of those effects.. Besides the aggression.

 

[cisco1234]

keep it in perspective man! first, remain healthy! if you think you can handle 800 with how you feel now without killing kittens and puppies, I say go for it. Don't let the mental game get ya man. everyone feels flat after two weeks of dieting cause you no longer fill out shirts like you used to, stress raises cortiol, weight goes down size goes down. Keep it going man, you have a goal, you have an outline to attack that goal, now just fall in love with the process and enjoy the journey.

 

[Jrbdallas]

keep it in perspective man! first, remain healthy! if you think you can handle 800 with how you feel now without killing kittens and puppies, I say go for it. Don't let the mental game get ya man. everyone feels flat after two weeks of dieting cause you no longer fill out shirts like you used to, stress raises cortiol, weight goes down size goes down. Keep it going man, you have a goal, you have an outline to attack that goal, now just fall in love with the process and enjoy the journey.

U hear ya man and believe me I do. The diet has always been cool till I made the swich.could also be related to the decreased test dose.

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[NastyNate]

Freaking killing it, awesome log main!

 

[Jrbdallas]

You eating enough carbs?? Refeeds?


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Definitely eating enough I do 1 on my rest day where anything goes. A second day with just slightly elevated carbs. The other 5 days are strict.

So Il do the one major refeed say monday. Minor refeed on thursday.

Minor refeed will be 100% rest day. Major refeed involves abs posing and cardio.

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[Jrbdallas]

It's also not too bad diminishing some size. It's more so going down in size and loosing that hardness. Deca had me much harder and grainier. Or at least something did at that time of my cycle.

I'm really looking forward to the anavar. I'm gonna give Xeno one more week. If it doesn't show I will end up going with LB or somewhere that has it. If var doesn't work then winny it is... I considered mast but the injecting is a pain. I've seen oral mast but never considered it.

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[NY REBEL]

It's also not too bad diminishing some size. It's more so going down in size and loosing that hardness. Deca had me much harder and grainier. Or at least something did at that time of my cycle.

I'm really looking forward to the anavar. I'm gonna give Xeno one more week. If it doesn't show I will end up going with LB or somewhere that has it. If var doesn't work then winny it is... I considered mast but the injecting is a pain. I've seen oral mast but never considered it.

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Oral mast is mediocre at best.. True, real anavar will be great. Winny nice before a show I would think. Dries me the fuck out.

 

[Jrbdallas]

Super drol is basically oral mast, also heard high proviron is comparable to it, not sure how true that is


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That's what I've heard. Hell MT can do better than superdrol lol

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[Jrbdallas]

What dose does proviron turn into oral mast?


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Shit idk about that. I don't think it works that way

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[NY REBEL]

Shit idk about that. I don't think it works that way

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I agree.. Doesn't sound right

 

[Jrbdallas]

Must be a stupid internet rumor


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Most things are lol. Whenever you get into the "alternative" of something.... never as good or effective as the real thing.

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[Jrbdallas]

Going up to 800. Just injected 250 today. I'm getting the sweats and agression but that's about it. My strength is the same. Feel flat. Notice less vascular it since dropping the deca.

So! Let's see what 800 can do! This tren has some good pip with it. Forms a pretty fence wad in the muscle but it seems to roll out ok. Another guy I talked to has seen the same and he also said it's not a huge deal. 800 here I come.

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[Jrbdallas]

You sure it's not the tren that's making you flat?


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Never experienced it like that before. But then again I've only ran tren once. But I've never heard of someone going through that.

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[NY REBEL]

Going up to 800. Just injected 250 today. I'm getting the sweats and agression but that's about it. My strength is the same. Feel flat. Notice less vascular it since dropping the deca.

So! Let's see what 800 can do! This tren has some good pip with it. Forms a pretty fence wad in the muscle but it seems to roll out ok. Another guy I talked to has seen the same and he also said it's not a huge deal. 800 here I come.

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Man tren at that dose would kick my ass, And I can run tren. Like allot. Flat? Don't sound right either. Never had any pip from tren, other then slight ace burn.. No knots..

 

[Jrbdallas]

Even if I go deep in the butt cheek there is a solid wad. I think I can handle 800. I was able to handle fasted cardio this morning with zero issues.

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[NY REBEL]

I'm just saying, the words flat, pip, knots and 800mg don't sound great.. I dunno man.

 

[NY REBEL]

I ran about a gram of zitexx for reference, with zero pip, and not one knot. And is logged lol

 

[Jrbdallas]

We will see I guess who knows... this cycle has been one fucking thing after another lol.

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[NY REBEL]

We will see I guess who knows... this cycle has been one fucking thing after another lol.

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Yea man you've had shit luck this run.

 

[Jrbdallas]

Why'd you have to use pharmacom sust Dallas? Missed that


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Lol I guess I'm allergic to the novocrine sustanon. It's made with apricot oil and some other crap I guess it was real real strong but the pip and swelling was insane lol.

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[Jrbdallas]

But you could feel it was some real mean test.

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[Jrbdallas]

Well lol that was the plan but he did me a solid actually and warned me something could be off with his test prop so he said I should hang tight on the test prop while he figures it out. The funds I sent him were originally for that and a dbol order for after the show.

I said well if the prop is on hold Let's turn the money towords the tren I need instead. He didn't have tren a yet so I said tren e is fine. Wich it totally is no big deal there.

I'm trying man hahah just on a timeline.

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