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I'm confused. You arnt getting more product at a cheaper price. You are paying more. If you bought a bottle of each ten ml its $80 each that's $160. But you are getting both bottles basically in one and paying $15 more. The cost of those powders are virtually the same. Also I don't see where you Ade getting the $320 total if bought seperatly cause that would mean u would have two bottles of each to make it $320 that's 40ml not 20ml. Plus those concentrations sound weak. I think are kinda getting handled. Idk who the source is but that math is off.

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krazieone56 said:
I'm confused. You arnt getting more product at a cheaper price. You are paying more. If you bought a bottle of each ten ml its $80 each that's $160. But you are getting both bottles basically in one and paying $15 more. The cost of those powders are virtually the same. Also I don't see where you Ade getting the $320 total if bought seperatly cause that would mean u would have two bottles of each to make it $320 that's 40ml not 20ml. Plus those concentrations sound weak. I think are kinda getting handled. Idk who the source is but that math is off.

KRAZIEONE
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Yea, made me scratch my head too lol


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I would almost be farely certain the source is just going to take two bottles he has and fill them into one and call it a blend and add $15 to the price. I would rethink that. And to be honest, labs make a killing man. I made 175ml of test 400 for around $200. That's less than $1 per ml man.

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Yes I know you are basically getting 10ml of tren at 100mg per ml and 10ml of mast at 100mg per ml. So that's not more product for less its the same product for more than if bought seperatly.

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Furthermore. Tren goes for $80 usually and its 200 mg/ml not 100. So ur getting a less concentrated product same with mast usually but I have seen some 100mg mast for $80. But usually 200mg.

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Unless I am retarded and don't understand blends. Ok....so could someone explain this to me like I am a two year old? When you get a blend and it's test p Tren a and mast p and it says 100/75/100 in a 10ml vial...does that mean 100 mg Test p 75mg Tren A 100mg Mast p. ..,,PER ML?


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krazieone56 said:
Furthermore. Tren goes for $80 usually and its 200 mg/ml not 100. So ur getting a less concentrated product same with mast usually but I have seen some 100mg mast for $80. But usually 200mg.

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I bought Bwl Tren A 100mg/ml....that's all they sell same with robo


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Yes. That is correct. What I'm saying is, if you bought tren ace and mast p. SEPARATLY. you wud have 10ml of tren 10ml of mast. Each going for $80 each. Totaling $160. Still with me?

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Now u r getting a 20ml bottle of a tren a mast p blend. Each ml of the 20 is 100 mg of each product. Of which you are paying $175. So you are getting the same amount of both products in the same one bottle instead of two for $15 more. Got it?

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krazieone56 said:
Now u r getting a 20ml bottle of a tren a mast p blend. Each ml of the 20 is 100 mg of each product. Of which you are paying $175. So you are getting the same amount of both products in the same one bottle instead of two for $15 more. Got it?

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Lol....no bro I am getting double the product. Remember the 20ml vial has BOTH COMPOUNDS IN 1 ml. The 10ml product is not a blend. Each ml only has 1 compound. Lol....am I loosing my fing mind?


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Well I looked one of the sources mentioned. Tren a 100mg is $70 for 10. Tren e is 200mg $80 for 10. Mast prop is $100 for 10 100mg ml. So idk. Maybe the price is good. I mean idk it doesn't sound right but maybe it is.

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And I can't thank the kind person who donated enough! Haha

But I have a Redam foundation where ANYONE can donate to me haha
 
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Hey guys sorry I am at gym...thanks for trying to help Krazy I will post when I get home


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alright guys, some of the experienced brewers this is for yall. I am for sure going to be brewing my own before too awful long. I would like to get a list of all the equipment needed and a ballpark on the overall price of the basic stuff needed, not including the powders.

thanks everyone!!
 
Flowhand1 said:
alright guys, some of the experienced brewers this is for yall. I am for sure going to be brewing my own before too awful long. I would like to get a list of all the equipment needed and a ballpark on the overall price of the basic stuff needed, not including the powders.

thanks everyone!!
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this is a copy paste and you don't need absolutely everything here, but I've highlighted the things I deem absolutely essential in bold:

Supplies:
Scale (Get one that is sensitive enough to the gram)
Vaccum pump(Brake Bleeder) (some people swear by vacuum pumps, but if it's your gear it's your call)
Nalgene/Millipore Filter (many use whatman filters)
Benzyl Benzoate (BB) (USP)
Benzyl Alcohol (BA) (USP)
Grapeseed oil (you can use cottonseed oil or sesame oil, GSO is the standard though)
3ml syringe with 18-21 gauge needle
20ml syringe with 18-21 gauge needle
Small piece of paper
beakers (500ml and 100ml)
(you'll need some kind of sterile equipment to hold the solutions in, although it doesn't necessarily have to be beakers. the reason for beakers is that they're less likely to shatter when exposed to extreme temperature changes)
10ml vials
(you need some kind of sealed vials, it doesn't matter what size although you're probably going to want the bigger end)
 
Redam said:
Mateo what's the issue? I can help!

Gimme the cliff notes haha
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Ok....I am going to give you the long version of the short story ha!

I have decided to run tren a and mast p together. I want to run 100mg a day of Tren A and 100mg a day of Mast P. So...I looked into prices with BWL. This is what he charges: Tren a 100mg 10ml vial $80.00 and Mast P 100mg 10ml vial $80.00. So I thought ..."Why not ask him to make me a blend....it might be cheaper?" So I wrote him this email.....

Can you quote me a price on a custom blend. I want a blend of Tren A and Mast Prop 100/100 20ml vial. or 10ml what ever is more cost effective. I am lookin to get a lot of of Tren A and Mast and think this would be the better way to go.

This is what he quoted me:

Minimum order is 5 bottles 10ml or 3 bottles 20ml for custom blends that is a starting point....

5x 10ml TREN A/MAST P Blend $95.00- $475.00
3x 20ml TREN A/MAST P Blend $175.00- $525.00

So I started doing the math. If I get the 20ml BLENDED VIALS for $175.00 each I have 60 DAYS WORTH OF PRODUCT....is that right? Again if I want to run 100mg of each compound a day, if I buy the 3 20ml jugs I can run this cycle for 60days? So....if thats true it would cost me $525.00.

Now....if I bought the products seperately...it would cost me $80.00 for Tren A 10ml and 80.00 for Mast P for 10ml. Thats 160.00 for only 10 days. So...if I buy enough product for 60 days it would be $160.00 x 6....because I want to run this for 60 days. So the total this way would be $960.00. By buying the blends in bulk I save a shit load!! Am I missing something?
 
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It sounds right to me. BWL has a great reputation here as well, so it would stand to reason he would treat a brother right.
As an aside, is there a greater risk of PIP when pinning a blend?
 
Another homebrewer question-
I've been following this since day one. About 70 posts ago I asked if someone could do a "Homebrewer's Dictionary" type post with all the acronyms and terms a noob like me would need to know. I think adding links to sources for the needed items would be awesome too. I've checked carefully and don't see one. Am I missing it or has it not been made yet?
 
Big props going out to bobs your uncle. Two shots into his tren e 200mg. Its like greasy butter. No pip or nothing. Amazing stuff get it if you can. Its legit.

KRAZIEONE
 
krazieone56 said:
Big props going out to bobs your uncle. Two shots into his tren e 200mg. Its like greasy butter. No pip or nothing. Amazing stuff get it if you can. Its legit.

KRAZIEONE
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Glad to hear! He sounds like me in taking compounding extremely seriously. I've got paper gowns, gloves, masks, head cover, I shower, scrub with a hibiclens brush, etc., and look like Walter White when doing my thing. Lol! He mentioned doing the same a while back, so I can imagine you've got some good, clean gear.
 
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who's hungry?


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Brewed injectable dbol.

Either the dbol I have is not that great (I bought it from an obscure Chinese source a long time ago, so that's possible) or I overheated it. However, I don't think you can ruin steroids that easily by overheating them, so I'm guessing the gear itself isn't that good. I don't feel that much from it.

On the plus side, I have a lot of domestic stuff to start brewing soon. :)
 
Injectable d-bol sounds like a waste of time. Oral suspension seems like a better alternative. I am expecting a shipment in the next few days so I will let you know how it works out for me :-)
 
I've read that it can reduce (not eliminate, mind you, but reduce) liver issues with dianabol vs. taking it orally. Though, I've taken this dbol orally too, and I don't feel much from it.

On the other hand, my appetite went through the roof. I practically ate a farm after my workout. I've thrown up from eating too much food before and I almost had that feeling, but not 30 minutes later I was eating again.
 
So I just brewed 100ml of tren no ester at 100mg/ml and it's crashing like crazy I used 20ml guaicol 4ml ba and 71.75ml eo so basically I took a 50mg/ml recipie and doubled the guaicol and ba and then subtracted the difference in eo so any suggestions? My hope was to have this at 100mg/ml and tne at 100mg/ml so I could do .5ml of each pre workout but now I'm fucked


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I appreciate all of the kind words but does anyone have any ideas I've never tried brewing tren ne before and I think it was meant to be brewed at 50mg/ml I'd really hate to have to dilute this down


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Ok so after heating it last night and waking up fearing the worst only about half of them crashed and not nearly as bad as the first time so I guess I'll reheat and cross my fingers I don't know what to think maybe it's because when I was initially getting it to dilute I added the eo last and maybe it didn't hit temp long enough for the eo to fully break everything down?


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bobsyouruncle said:
I appreciate all of the kind words but does anyone have any ideas I've never tried brewing tren ne before and I think it was meant to be brewed at 50mg/ml I'd really hate to have to dilute this down


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After seeing all your pics I really wish I could help on this topic.. but I am about to start brewing hopefully in the near future so maybe I can pick at your brain for brewing advice eventually
 
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After seeing all your pics I really wish I could help on this topic.. but I am about to start brewing hopefully in the near future so maybe I can pick at your brain for brewing advice eventually
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That's what this thread is for if you have any questions by all means ask! And don't be intimidated sure you'll have some setbacks (like gear crashing) but you'll figure it out and you will probably be able to remedy any problems you end up having heat is one of your best assets


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The only thing I worry about is that the reheat may have helped restablelize it. But, if its that sensitive what happens once injected and the quicker chemicals break down first. The tren may crash In the muscle and recrystallize. That will hurt like a motherfucker.

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krazieone56 said:
The only thing I worry about is that the reheat may have helped restablelize it. But, if its that sensitive what happens once injected and the quicker chemicals break down first. The tren may crash In the muscle and recrystallize. That will hurt like a motherfucker.

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I'll find out one way or another no ester drugs tend to hurt anyway I just pinned 1ml of tne this morning and for about 20-25 min it stung but in a pretty harsh way I mean stung is a gentile word for this feeling but it best describes the way it felt it was like injecting acid but after about 25min it was fine and I'm feeling great


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Well I may end up regretting this but I drove home quick on lunch and pinned 1ml of that tren no ester the anticipation was just too much for me! Anyway it went in fine no burn or pain yet but I'll check back in after work and let you guys know if I can still walk


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Lol dude. Ur as krazie as me bro. U better heat that area and rub it. If that crystalizes omg its gonna feel like u got kicked by a horse in that area

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M_T pockets said:
UB mine better be worth it LOL.

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Were talking about two completely different beasts and injecting into a virgin muscle is always going to hurt but my test is the least painful oil I have EVER used


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I'm a contractor so I'm up and down ladders carrying heavy shit and a loaded tool belt but it's the crouching on your toes that really gets you


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bobsyouruncle said:
I'm a contractor so I'm up and down ladders carrying heavy shit and a loaded tool belt but it's the crouching on your toes that really gets you


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I guess pinning during lunch wont happen again. I sit all day and that can be bad too. I got a grapefruit size lump a couple months ago and the only way I was comfortable was standing. I couldn't lay on my back, or side..it sucked!
 
I'll take that initial pain any day to feel this good I don't feel extremely aggressive I just feel great like the epitome of a man


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About to head out from work early. Bob, how do I try some of the Test no ester? It looks like milky goodness.
 
But it hurts like a bitch and the pain sticks around long after the test wears off I shit it this morning and it still hurts I also shot tren ne at lunch and that pain is long gone


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Well damn that sux Im dealing with pip today already. Did you brew the tren ne?


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bobsyouruncle said:
But it hurts like a bitch and the pain sticks around long after the test wears off I shit it this morning and it still hurts I also shot tren ne at lunch and that pain is long gone


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Is there a "comedown" or just return to normal human feeling?
 
Sorry for being the kid that wanders in the room asking what happened. LOL. I will review the thread then touch back. Brew on misters!

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bobsyouruncle said:
But it hurts like a bitch and the pain sticks around long after the test wears off I shit it this morning and it still hurts I also shot tren ne at lunch and that pain is long gone


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LOL! Test suspension ALWAYS seems to leave behind a reminder. I had some ONCE that was so thin, it would flow through a 30g slin pin, and it never hurt. That's not at all the norm, however, for test suspension. I've got some for my next show right now that won't run through a 25g pin. I'm using 22g 1.5" for glutes with this stuff.:eek:
I'm almost wondering what the test no ester would be like oil based? No question, water based will be faster, but I'd settle for waiting an extra two hours to kick in, in return for no pain.
 
Well it's holding but I dropped it down to 50mg/ml I didn't want to but if you can't use it what's the point? Don't worry I'll find a way to get this bastard to hold at a higher concentration


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bobsyouruncle said:
Well it's holding but I dropped it down to 50mg/ml I didn't want to but if you can't use it what's the point? Don't worry I'll find a way to get this bastard to hold at a higher concentration


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Agreed. I'm glad to inject 2ml's of smooth 50mg/ml suspension vs 1ml 100mg/ml snake venom. Trust me. I ache with the recent suspension I have on hand that's 100mg/ml. I'm considering brewing an oil based 50mg/ml "suspension" (can't call it that in an oil I guess), and seeing how fast I react to it, the results vs true suspension, and of course, how much pip. From the pics you posted, it looks like it's remaining stable at 100mg/ml. Can't beat that
 
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First batch of test ace 100mg/ml

By the tenth vial the filter was a bitch hahaha.

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