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  • Not sure if you saw it, Rundmz7 went south, so he's no longer the rep for BWL.
    Fucking Guy pissed me off, cause Z is a friend, and I can't help him cause I'm a Mod.

    In regards to the Aromasin, in the future if you can get pills, it's more Precise to dose than Liquid.
    Let me know how you are doing in a couple days......................... JP
    I didn't realize that you were taking a Liquid.
    Liquids are a Real Bitch to stay consistent with.

    Are you Shaking the Bottle before you dose ?
    If not, try that, it'll give you a little more consistency from one dose to the next.................... JP
    How many days have you gone every day with your Aromasin ?
    Definitely cut back to every other day, maybe before you go every other day.
    Go 3 days until your next dose of Aromasin, then go every other day.
    Personally, I go every 3 Days, but there's no, "One size fits all" with an AI, I know it Sucks Ass.

    Also, are you taking any Joint Supps.
    I take Carlson's Liquid Fish Oil, around 2 Tsp. a day, and it helps greatly with my Joints.
    Also MSM and Glucosamine would be beneficial, I buy them in Bulk from Bulk Supplements or Hard Rhino.
    They also sell the Caps if you need to cap them.......................... JP
    P.S.
    I just toss mine into a shake or something, I can't be bothered to cap shit.
    But you'll save a Ton of Money buying in bulk.
    Thanks . I'll cut back on my salt . I have good bp . Just don't want to duck up on this. Lots of time work and money went in to this cycle . I want improvements not injurys or health issues
    Glad to hear that the AI is doing it's job.
    As far as BP on Cycle.
    Two things come to mind, 1st is Diet and Sodium, you need to watch your Intake, I monitor mine via Myfitnesspal.
    The more Sodium, the more Water you will hold under your Skin and that will drive up your BP.

    2nd is any Aromatizable Compound, because it does the same thing, ads water under the Skin which in turn will drive up your BP.
    That's why it's important to get your AI dosing correct.
    Estrogen is the most difficult hormone to control on cycle, so you always have to Pay Attention to it, it can Ruin your Cycle if not.

    3rd would be if you're are Predisposed to High BP, and this can happen as you get older.
    I've been lucky, but I always paid attention to the little details on a Cycle......................... JP
    OK, sounds like it's working so continue with every day, just for a few more days.
    Don't want to do Too much.

    However in a couple weeks, if you're still doing well.
    Get a Female Hormone Test done to check your Levels.
    I always get some Bloodwork done around Mid-Cycle to check all levels of Hormones.
    You just put Male in place of female....................................... JP
    P.S.
    When you're ready, let me know and I'll get you a 15% Off coupon for Privatemdlabs.
    It is Awesome Stuff, I've been using it with every Cycle for Decades.

    I just want you to get your AI dosage correct 1st.
    Then it will be easier to add in the Proviron............................ JP
    I would go to every day with the Aromasin at the same dosage 12.5 Mg a day.
    For 5 to 7 Days, and then back to the Original Dose if the Sensitivity is gone.

    Usually the sensation is more of Sensitivity, like if you B**** your Hand over your Nipple, they're a little tender.
    It's Noticeable, I never noticed a difference in Temp., but this just may be your Attempt to explain a sensation that you're aren't familiar with.

    Did you intend on doing the Proviron with this Cycle, if yes, wait till you get the Aroma straightened out, and then start................. JP
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    The edited word is B-R-U-S-H
    Don't know what's going on lately with all this editing...
    I'll go get some blood work again to let checked out. Until then I'll do 12.5 ed and see what happened. I don't see that low of a dose crashing me . If symptoms get worse I know to go the other way with it
    That's fairly normal with hormone imbalances. Definitely sounds like you need to get that estrogen under control! Estrogen is the hardest hormone to control cause you never know for sure until bloodwork comes back. When estrogen is out of whack, your cravings can get worse than a pregnant lady. 12.5mg eod normally works for most people running your dose, so I'm shocked by this. I run 25mg eod and I'm running a gram of test and 50mg of dbol and everything is fine for me, so I don't see why 12.5mg eod is throwing you off like that. That's odd to me. You can try to up it to 12.5mg ed and see if that helps any. Worth a shot, but like I said, the only way to be 100% certain is bloodwork.
    OK. Thanks . I'm so early in this cycle. I'm going to give it a day or two see see if any other symptoms pop up. Can dbol or estrogen make you crave junk food?
    I would try upping your aro dose first and if that doesn't work, lower it. Your libido can crash if your estrogen is too low as well as if it's too high. My guess would be that it's too high, and probably because of the dbol. It's an oral, very fast acting, meaning it also aromatizes in the body much faster than a long ester test, so I'd bump your ai up to that 12.5mg ed and see if that helps any after a few days. If that doesn't help, you could try lowering it, but the only way to be 100% sure is bloodwork.
    Hell yeah bro I'll be on the look out for that! And yeah, just eat big and get a proper amount of rest and you can easily hit the gym twice a day. I've said it once and I'll say it many more times, dbol is my favorite drug and that's one reason why. I'll also be posting pics in about 8 weeks after the remainder of this cycle.
    Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of liquid orals. I can't wait til gamma gets a pill press machine. I hate liquid orals for that one reason you just listed, the taste. Haha. Straight shit. Once he gets a pill press machine, he'll also he my go to guy for all orals
    Haha I knew you'd love dbol. It's one of my favorite, if not my absolute favorite, drugs. That's what I use it for, is the increased recovery time. I tend to take it post workout so I keep the muscle pumps to a minimum, cause they can get to be so serious that it actually starts to hurt. You can take Taurine to combat that, but I find taking it post workout keeps them to a minimum, as well. 20mg sounds like a good starting dose. First time I ever ran it, was at 50mg. That was just cause the pills I got were 50mg pills and I was too lazy to cut them in half. It's definitely an amazing compound. You can literally see your body change in front of you in a matter of days. Small changes, but they add up to big ones.
    Let.me know.about the blood work. Here in a few days I'll be able to let you know about the dbol. I never did dbol before . But everyone says I should know in 5 days or less. I had his gear lab maxed and its gtg
    Yeah, I noticed that as well. I've been running his gear for almost two weeks now and I can honestly say it's the smoothest gear I've ever ran. I was using Vermodje before I switched to Gamma's and Vermodje is known for being smooth, but with Gamma's gear, I can't even tell where I pinned at. Very, very smooth. So far I'm loving it. Can't wait to get blood work to have it verified.
    You can stack the dbol and proviron at the same time if you want to, bro. That will further help cut out that water weight you were talking about earlier and keep you dry and hard. Also the boost in well being and libido is pretty nice from proviron. A test, dbol, and proviron will have you feeling and looking amazing. You could cut out the water weight with a proper ai dose alone, but the extra boost in well being and libido from the proviron would be nice if you do decide to try it in there. 50mg per day would be a nice starting dose. If this is your first cycle, I'd hold off on it til next cycle so you don't run too many compounds in your first, but it's definitely nice to have around.
    Hi Welder

    I guess you are the customer that wrote his email wrong when the account was created as is the same one that didn't sent before the weekend all the details needed to pick the funds.

    I have sent you an email one hour ago. Collector will pick the funds in few hours and then your order will be shipped. I will keep you posted about the whole shipping process.

    Thanks.

    Hipocampus.me
    I personally would recommend dbol over tbol for quite a few reasons. One, it's much more powerful. Two, it's much more available and much less expensive. Three, I have heard numerous claims of tbol making you feel like shit while you're on it, and to me, that isn't worth the dry, lean gains you will make while on it. Tbol is a very good compound. It serves it's purpose. I would just recommend dbol over tbol if you want my honest opinion. Just eat clean, make sure you properly dose your ai, and you'll love the results from dbol.
    Any gains are keepable, honestly. Just depends on your diet and training habits when you come off of the compound. Dbol aromatizes a lot more than tbol, so yes, there will be more water gain, but you can up your ai dose and keep water bloat out of the picture. Also, like I said, diet. You can eat 3 thousand calories in chicken, lean beef, fruits and veggies, or you could go to mcdonald's and eat 3 thousand calories in a sitting from a few big macs. It's common sense that you're going to look better from the healthy meal plan than from greasy fast food. Your body does amazing things with the stuff you put into it. Like how asparagus makes your pee smell horrible, even shortly after eating it, like within a few hours even. Prime example of what your body does with what you put into it. If you eat clean, and have an appropriate ai dose, you will get all the benefits of dbol and keep the water weight off.
    Keep me updated bro. I always forward him my confirmation email from western union. It has all the info he needs on there. If you got the name and everything right of the receiver, it should be all good to go on his end as well. I've never ran into this problem before so I'm interested to see how it plays out.
    Yeah bro I got mine from Gamma in 2 days. And yeah, you can do 10mg every other day. I just do 25mg two days a week. Usually same days I inject.
    But yeah, when shipping to someone in the us, you have to have the state as well. Not sure why, just their rules. Haha.
    I also have two vials of Cyp from him. Haha. He's a super great guy. I had a nice conversation with him that spanned out over quite a few hours. I am switching to his gear from my Vermodje that I'm running now starting on Monday and will be getting bloods done in the near future. About mid June is when I'll have them.
    I have a little hcg coming in the snail mail. I wanted to have a small 10 week cycle and extra pct on hand that way when I make another order it will be just a small order of hcg and a few more test. I will already have pct on hand just in case. And yes I'll pick up a test booster when I make my next suplemnt order. Still got sups left so I'll.wait till I'm a little lower on stock. I tryed the 5% line of sups and I like it. I will more than likely get more. The createne don't bloat me and the prework out does me good. ( me but everyone is different) I will also get their organ support do to the fact it is never sold out easy to get. I figger that secnce the owner of the comp is a juice head he should know at least a little lol
    Hipo usually takes between 9-12 days in my experience. Not bad at all. The fastest I've ever received an international package was 8 days, so he's right on par with them. But that source fluctuated too much. I've made 3 orders with them. One was 8 days, one was 13 days, and the other was a whole damn month. Because of that, he no longer has my business. Hipo always puts the customer first and gets you your package as soon as he can. Mine is in transit to my house right now. Should be here in the opening days of next week. Sounds like you got yourself a nice little pct together. You also want to throw in a natural test booster supplement, too. Helps make things go a little smoother. I have Animal Test and Animal Stak from Universal Nutrition as mine, but there are plenty of good brands out there. Beast Nutrition is another good one. I'm also considering throwing some hcg into my two weeks in between cycle and pct.
    My pleasure bro! I don't recommend that many sources to people that ask, but I'm that confident in his product. He's a great guy and puts out some great shit. Most of the stuff I run is from him, and I definitely wouldn't put something into my body if I wasn't confident with it.
    My test is from Vermodje. My Proviron and all my PCT stuff is from Hipo. All Pharma grade besides the test. I had my test since before Hipo came to the board. So I can't give you feedback on his test, but I can tell you that all the products I have from him are gtg and I would assume that his test (both pharma grade and ugl) are gtg as well since the pharma grade stuff is pharma grade and has had others vouch for it, and his ugl line of test has a third party lab do all the testings on it so he gets unbiased results. Test is one of the cheapest things to make, and Pharma grade stuff has a hefty price tag on it, so if he's slinging out legit pharma grade stuff, I don't see any reason he would fake his ugl test. You'll be in good hands with him. Tell him I sent you and he'll take good care of you. And if you get some test from him, and don't feel like it's legit, I'll send you some of mine for no charge.
    There are very minimal differences. Neither one is really better than the other. I have both and you won't notice any difference between the two. E is a lot more popular over in Europe and other eastern countries and c seems to be more popular over here in western countries. At least as far as prescription test goes. I know more people that use e than c over here, too. I don't really have a preference, but I am using e right now. Usually e is dosed higher than c. The lab I'm using right now, Vermodje, has e dosed at 250mg/mL and c dosed at 200mg/mL. Same price. At least from the source I got them from, it is. Other than that, there is really no difference. You'll be equally as fine with c as I am with e.
    I just got another package in the mail today haha 20 amps of Test E from Dragon Pharma. Looks good, can't wait to pin it. I have way more test than I need. Lmao.
    I am honestly not sure if it is. I know some of the moderators have tie ins with the company at least, but I'm not sure if they own it. I personally have never used a n2bm product, I think they're way overpriced supplements. If you want my advice, I'd stay away from them. Haha. A lot of money for something you could buy somewhere else for much cheaper. Like their hcgenerate and the es version, super expensive. I am using Universal Nutrition Animal Test and Animal Stak as my natty test booster in my pct this time around. Beast nutrition makes a great test booster, too.
    2 weeks or less. I've gotten some as soon as 8 calendar days, just over a week. He's a great guy bro. And amazing prices on his gear. He has Pharma grade stuff cheaper than some ugl's I've seen in the past. Definitely wouldn't hesitate to give him a shot.
    Yeah bro he's who I get all my pharma grade stuff from. His prices are more than fair, customer service is best I've ever dealt with, and his shipping time is very nice for an international source.
    It's also good to add into your pct. I prefer it over Aromasin. Stick it in your pct at 25mg per day for the entire pct and it'll help out a bunch.
    After doing more about proverian I want some. It sounds like it allows you to get more out of you test cycle. It keeps it floating around instead of storing in fat. So more bang for your buck if I'm reading it right. I don't want to be rude or disrespect full feel free to not answer but my sourse don't have that can you point me in the right direction of a good legit source for proverian ?
    Yeah Proviron is a nice addition to any cycle. And it's not methylated so it won't fuck your organs up. And yeah, people are just talking out of their ass haha. My pct is just clomid which is like 11 dollars a box (I bought 10 of them though in a bulk deal for $92 shipped and delivered to my house) and my Nolvadex was like 20 bucks. My test booster was like 90 bucks cause I got a 6 week supply lol that was more than the actual Pharma grade pills themselves. The Proviron is like $15 a box but I got a bulk deal of 30 boxes for $210. I don't remember how much it was after shipping but it was probably only like $230ish. I have over $1,000 worth of gear and about $500 worth of pct stuff but I have way more stuff than I need. You can easily get away with a 5 or 6 hundred dollar cycle and pct and it be good enough. I'm glad to see your pct is Pharma grade stuff. No room for error in pct.
    If you run it 12.5 eod and you start to get gyno symptoms, bump it up to 12.5 ed. Not everybody is the same or reacts the same to the same compounds, but you should be fine running 12.5 eod on cycle. I personally don't run an ai during pct. I still run it for two weeks after my last injection during the bridge period between cycle and pct with long ester compounds, but I don't run it during pct. I usually just run Nolva at 40mg ed for the first two weeks, 20mg ed for the last two, Clomid at 50mg ed for the entire 4 weeks, and a natty test booster at the recommended dosage for the entire 4 weeks. I'm also going to include Proviron in my upcoming pct at 25mg ed for the entire 4 weeks, as well. Proviron serves as an ai, as well. Also, all my pct items are pharma grade, aside from the natty test booster. I don't play around when it comes to pct.
    I have not started anything yet. I'm about two weeks or less from start up. I'm just trying to make sure I got all my ducks in a row. I will go next week for blood work before start up.. I thank you for the info . I Google that animal pack test booster . Its a lot cheaper than chgenerate that everyone is pushing. I'm going to get the universal animal test booster. I just can't bring my self to pay more for a natty test booster than a viel if test lol
    Cool. I dont drink. I know Winny is cheaper abut I would not mind sheding some water and maybe a little fat. Now another question you may have heared a million times ( now one more won't hurt) what is better or different between test c and e ?
    You're right. Winny is a lot cheaper. However, it's also a lot more toxic to the liver. Nothing too bad, but toxic enough for me to recommend the use of a organ support like n2 guard while using it, and n2 guard has a pretty hefty price tag so it ends up not being too much cheaper in the end. With that being said, you can use winny without an organ support, you just have to make sure you're eating 100% clean and not drinking whatsoever or taking any other prescription or over the counter meds. Run it at 40-50mg per day for the last 4-6 weeks of the cycle. That will yield good results.
    Some guys also add a sarm into their pct, but this doesn't make much sense to me cause they're suppressive of natural test. Feel free to ask me any further questions my brother!
    It's not a bother at all my brother. Aro on cycle, 12.5mg edo should be fine for 500mg of test. Take that all the way through the cycle, adjust if you need, and continue to take for two weeks after your last injection. You don't necessarily need hcg but if you want to, 3 times per week at 500iu per injection would be fine. Monday/Wednesday/Friday injections would be fine. So if your last test injection is on a Thursday, you could start your hcg injections the following Monday, continue for two weeks along with aromasin still at 12.5mg eod, then once the two weeks is up, stop using the hcg, and you can even stop using the aromasin if you'd like. Some guys use it in pct, I personally don't. A 4 week pct of Clomid at 50mg per day for all 4 weeks, Nolvadex at 40mg per day for the first two weeks then taper down to 20mg per day for the remaining two weeks. And make sure to add a natural test booster in there to ensure a full recovery.
    Thanks . I plan on hitting some hcg for the two two.week window before pct. After cycle and everything is done . In your opinion how much of the gain do most keep? Thanks again
    A lot of guys do run aromasin in their pct at small doses, but I don't see any point in it. After your last test injection, continue taking your aromasin as you normally would for two weeks, then once you stop that, jump directly into your pct. I personally only run nolvadex, clomid, and a natty test booster (universal nutrition animal stak and animal test for this cycles pct) but any good brand will do you right. Just nolva alone won't be good enough, or even nolva and clomid. Gotta throw in a natty test booster at least. You could even use injectable hcg for the two weeks in between your last test injection and the beginning of your pct if you really wanna kick start things and ensure a full recovery, but I think the combination of nolvadex, clomid, and natty test booster is plenty good enough. Feel free to ask any more questions you may be unsure of.
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